Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Kaido->Kid->Law->Linlin->Luffy->->->->->->->->->->->->->Zoro

 

[Batik4ever]

Kaido->Kid->Law->Linlin->Luffy->->->->->->->->->->->->->Zoro

U forgot Killer

Killer>>Kaido>Kidd>Law>Linlin>Luffy>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoro

 

[Buusatan94]

the spoiler thread is a bit uh tense last 24 hrs

Donny please.

 

[Cinera]

Speaking facts isn't downplaying

You minimised Zoro's accomplishments, I didn't say you lied. You can downplay while being factual (as I have just been doing for Luffy).

There are situations you mentioned where Luffy didn't necessarily need saving

I don't think Luffy would have gotten KOed, but he was clearly unable to react and would have taken heavy damage in all 5 of those scenarios.

However, more than focusing on the fact he got saved, you must take into consideration the circumstance that led to this. The difference between Luffy and Zoro in those instances is because as mentioned already

I agree that Luffy has had more aggro, but I'm not sure it's as big as you make it seem.

Attacks directed at the Supernova (from memory)

• Luffy
  • Kaido
    1. Basic Club Swing
       1. Dodged and countered by Red Roc
    2. Thunder Bagua
       1. Partially dodged
    3. Basic Club Swing
       1. Rescued by Law
    4. Demolition Gust
       1. Dodged and countered with Kong Rifle
    5. Boro Breath
       1. Rescued by Zoro
    6. Boro Breath
       1. Withstood
    7. Dragon Chomp
       • Rescued by Zoro
    8. Large Area Attack (???)
       1. ???
  • Mama
    1. Heavenly Fire
       1. Rescued by Zoro
    2. God of Lightning: Tenjin
       1. Immune by virtue of Devil Fruit
    3. Cognac
       1. Rescued by Zoro
• Zoro
  • Kaido
    1. Basic Club Swing
       1. Countered with Rengoku Oni Giri
    2. Demolition Gust
       1. Deflected
    3. Large Area Attack (???)
       1. ???
  • Mama
    1. God of Lightning: Tenjin
       1. Withstood
• Kidd
  • Kaido
    1. Demolition Gust
       1. Withstood
    2. Vortex Wind
       1. ???
    3. Large Area Attack (???)
       1. ???
  • Mama
    1. God of Lightning: Tenjin
       1. Withstood
• Law
  • Kaido
    1. Demolition Gust
       1. Dodged
    2. Chomp
       1. Dodged
    3. Large Area Attack (???)
       1. ???
  • Mama
    1. God of Lightning: Tenjin
       1. Withstood
• Killer
  • Kaido
    1. Basic Club Swing
       1. Countered with Beheading Claw
    2. Demolition Gust
       1. Dodged
    3. Dragon Chomp
       1. Rescued by Luffy
    4. Vortex Wind
       1. ???
    5. Large Area Attack (???)
       1. ???
  • Mama
    1. Indra
       1. Withstood
    2. God of Lightning: Tenjin
       1. Withstood

Excluding God of Lightning: Tenjin (immune due to DF ability), Luffy needed to be rescued from Mama's other attacks by Zoro. Against Kaido, he cleanly dodged two attacks, partially dodged one, was rescued for three and withstood one.

Luffy's total confirmed attacks were 10. He was rescued for half of them.

The total confirmed attacks on all Supernova (some double counting due to multi target attacks) is 25.

Luffy has taken around 40% of Yonkou attacks; a plurality, but not the majority I've seen others claiming (@WesMidnight). And he was rescued for half of those attacks.

cinera u forgot one feat bro :

1- Big mom attack couldn't knock down Killer for good but nerfed Onigiri with hardening could ,
i said nerfed onigiri : because Zoro uses a scythe for the first time in his attack whilst a scythe isn't even a sword and what he uses in his techniques are a legendary swords with grade .

It's a great attack potency feat, but not a feat relevant to this battle.

where did we see that he significantly hurt Kaido ?

For now we know he cut him but Kaido will recover without being that much hurt

Spoilers for all previous attacks (1001 & 1002) did not mention that they damaged Kaido. This may be because this attack did more damage than the others (e.g. drew significant amounts of blood), or the spoiler provider being a Zoro fan.

 

[Raughtale]

U forgot Killer

Killer>>Kaido>Kidd>Law>Linlin>Luffy>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zoro

thanks but it goes
Kaido->Kid->Killer->Law->Linlin->Luffy->->->->->->->->->->->->->Zoro

It's their alphabetical ranking, it's the most I could give to Zoro haters, hope it makes them feel better.

 

[Erkan12]

Luffy tanked Boro Breath...

Trolls say Zoro saved Luffy when he cut Boro Breath... :laughmoji:

The only crucial saving happened when Big Mom took everyone down and when she took Killer down, they were all defenseless until Luffy used Kong Gatling, and when he saved Killer with Rhino Schneider before Kaido could eat defenseless Killer.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

here you underestimate the Youko

without Luffy who have the main focus of them all the 2 yonko would have more time to focus on Zoro and attack him too. So Luffy is not a liability here for Zoro, he is opportunity

Luffy been saved by Zoro in this Raid from taking damage like 5 times. Imagine he let those fidders stab into the unconscious luffy after Apoo hit him. Zoro working overtime has the right hand man

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Luffy tanked Boro Breath...

Trolls say Zoro saved Luffy when he cut Boro Breath... :laughmoji:

The only crucial saving happened when Big Mom took everyone down and when she took Killer down, they were all defensless until Luffy used Kong Gatling, and when he saved Killer with Rhino Schneider before Kaido eats defensless Killer.

Luffy was visibly hurt by Boro breath.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Also did i just saw someone saying that Hybrid Kaido was for Kidd ? LMFAOOOOO

 

[ReggieZoldyck21]

Also did i just saw someone saying that Hybrid Kaido was for Kidd ? LMFAOOOOO

With Luffy down it’s time for his rival to step up

 

[Akai]

Detailed Summary? Please

 

[Ice devil slayer]

With Luffy down it’s time for his rival to step up

 

[Buusatan94]

here you underestimate the Youko

without Luffy who have the main focus of them all the 2 yonko would have more time to focus on Zoro and attack him too. So Luffy is not a liability here for Zoro, he is opportunity

And he'll be the one to deal the decisive and finishing blows on Kaido so he really needs protection from Zoro and others.

 

[Un-amed]

Detailed Summary? Please

Tumorrou, and good Akai pic

 

[Akai]

Tumorrou, and good Akai pic

Thanks dude! :) And thanks dude.. :(

 

[Cinera]

here you underestimate the Youko

without Luffy who have the main focus of them all the 2 yonko would have more time to focus on Zoro and attack him too. So Luffy is not a liability here for Zoro, he is opportunity

You would have had an argument except:

• Zoro saved Luffy four times
• He has only attacked Kaido three times
  • Two of those attacks were counterattacks in the course of saving Luffy

Zoro has been babysitting Luffy more than dealing damage, so Luffy has been holding him back. Now that Luffy has run out of haki for 10 minutes, Zoro will need to babysit him on overtime as he wouldn't leave the duty of protecting his captain to someone else.

We have to assume all four of those strikes from Luffy had to have been Ryuo Infused. It can be explained he has run out of Haki so fast. Because he used back to back Ryuo attacks.

1. Red Roc
2. KKG
3. Kong Rifle
4. Rhino Schneider
5. KKG Gatling

The way I like to look at it is, think of Kaidos skin as Leather. You can punch Leather but the blunt damage won’t do much, whereas with Zoro uses a Needle/Sword in which case it can puncture Kaido plus give Internal Damage.

Luffy is smashing Kaido but it’s not doing crazy amounts because they are still blunt damage. Whereas Zoro’s attacks with Enma are more lethal given they are cuts.

I agree with this. It's not that I don't think Luffy was damaging Kaido, the damage just doesn't seem to have been significant.

 

[Seth]

the spoiler thread is a bit uh tense last 24 hrs

As it should.

Activity = Stonks for an online forum.

At least on paper

 

[BangOO🍅]

If Kidd shows nothing in 10 minutes, i lose hope for him.

 

[Un-amed]

If Kidd shows nothing in 10 minutes, i lose hope for him.

Would be really Sad ...
If all we see it's Luffy doing something... but most likely Kidd will use that gigant Sword XD

 

[gamaran]

If Kidd shows nothing in 10 minutes, i lose hope for him.

Don't worry he'll make a good stepping stone for Luffy

 

[Oblivion]

Would be really Sad ...
If all we see it's Luffy doing something... but most likely Kidd will use that gigant Sword XD

is this what it was like for law in dressrosa?