Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion
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It's just a fact
- Luffy is the SN who landed his attacks on Kaido the most
- Luffy is also the SN who dealt the most damage to Kaido based on portrayal(Kaido and Big Mom were shocked by how much red roc could damage Kaido and G4 attacks are more powerful, with kong gatling hurting Kaido so much Big Mom was literally worried as if she was thinking he was going to be defeated)
What damage did the other SN do as a comparison ?
- Kid just slammed Kaido with questionable damage
- Law just hurt Kaido with his gamma knife, which he brushed aside
- Killer gave a momentarily internal damage to Kaido
- Zoro just gave a superficial damage to Kaido this chapter
That's about it, nothing comparable to what Luffy has been doing
- Luffy is the SN who landed his attacks on Kaido the most
- Luffy is also the SN who dealt the most damage to Kaido based on portrayal(Kaido and Big Mom were shocked by how much red roc could damage Kaido and G4 attacks are more powerful, with kong gatling hurting Kaido so much Big Mom was literally worried as if she was thinking he was going to be defeated)
What damage did the other SN do as a comparison ?
- Kid just slammed Kaido with questionable damage
- Law just hurt Kaido with his gamma knife, which he brushed aside
- Killer gave a momentarily internal damage to Kaido
- Zoro just gave a superficial damage to Kaido this chapter
That's about it, nothing comparable to what Luffy has been doing
Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Luffy is the only one to put Kaido down for any time at all.
Maybe bump Zoro up to the 6% range and Luffy down to 85% if we're being generous.
This was a max effort attack with a downside in a super powerful mode, with ryuo specifically designed to combat Kaido's defense, compared to high/mid diff attacks with no downsides, it is strange to assume Zoro is doing a large percentage of Luffy's gattling damage with his Tatsumaki.
Luffy is the only one to put Kaido down for any time at all.
Maybe bump Zoro up to the 6% range and Luffy down to 85% if we're being generous.
This was a max effort attack with a downside in a super powerful mode, with ryuo specifically designed to combat Kaido's defense, compared to high/mid diff attacks with no downsides, it is strange to assume Zoro is doing a large percentage of Luffy's gattling damage with his Tatsumaki.
Well you don't seemed to be serious so I will let you be...but don't insult god kaido ever
It isn't Oden's haki otherwise Kaido would've straight up started it last chapter and this chapter. But what he senses instead is Oden's will/spirit/Aura.
The interpretation from this chapter is that Kaido senses strange haki when Zoro coats his swords. That is because Kaido is sensing Oden's presence and Zoro's haki together. He then concludes from that as the sword being Oden's sword but never says Oden's haki.
The reason Kaido is the only one sensing it and not even Zoro who uses the sword is because Kaido was almost killed by Oden
The interpretation from this chapter is that Kaido senses strange haki when Zoro coats his swords. That is because Kaido is sensing Oden's presence and Zoro's haki together. He then concludes from that as the sword being Oden's sword but never says Oden's haki.
The reason Kaido is the only one sensing it and not even Zoro who uses the sword is because Kaido was almost killed by Oden
Two things:
1) It's basically confirmed by Kaido/BM, that it's really Oden's haki inside Enma. I don't like that writing decision at all, really feels like Zoro was just granted a magical sword. It feels like a really cheap powerup. Before some Zoro stans come at me again: I said the exact same thing about Sanji's raid suit.
2) Orochi is also basically confirmed to be alive. Yes, you read it right. Oda would never show the decapitated head of a person, who actually died due to that decapitation. Just look at Doflamingo's "decapitation" back in Dressrosa - Oda only showed the "decapitation", because Doflamingo was actually alive and well.
This one Orochi panel alone is 99.999% confirmation, that Orochi is indeed alive and Kaido's attack didn't kill him (probably due to the Yamato No Mi DF).
1) It's basically confirmed by Kaido/BM, that it's really Oden's haki inside Enma. I don't like that writing decision at all, really feels like Zoro was just granted a magical sword. It feels like a really cheap powerup. Before some Zoro stans come at me again: I said the exact same thing about Sanji's raid suit.
2) Orochi is also basically confirmed to be alive. Yes, you read it right. Oda would never show the decapitated head of a person, who actually died due to that decapitation. Just look at Doflamingo's "decapitation" back in Dressrosa - Oda only showed the "decapitation", because Doflamingo was actually alive and well.
This one Orochi panel alone is 99.999% confirmation, that Orochi is indeed alive and Kaido's attack didn't kill him (probably due to the Yamato No Mi DF).
If Luffy gets a 1 vs 1 with Kaido, I'll change my mind.
Kaido did not overwhelm it, the attack had ended when we see Kaido falling to the ground.
Kaido being knocked down is a strong point in favour of Kong Gatling. I'll place it above by virtue of that.
We have Kaido coughing up (much more) blood in three separate panels:
This is in addition to the blood splurting from him where Zoro cut him:
Zoro only huffed after Hiryuu Kaen, and it had the portrayal to do even more damage to Kaido than Kong Gatling did. The amount of effort expended doesn't seem to scale, so this isn't particularly convincing to me.
I still don't expect Zoro to leave Luffy unguarded while Luffy is unable to fight, but again we'll see.
Kaido did not overwhelm it, the attack had ended when we see Kaido falling to the ground.
Kaido being knocked down is a strong point in favour of Kong Gatling. I'll place it above by virtue of that.
We have Kaido coughing up (much more) blood in three separate panels:
This is in addition to the blood splurting from him where Zoro cut him:
Zoro only huffed after Hiryuu Kaen, and it had the portrayal to do even more damage to Kaido than Kong Gatling did. The amount of effort expended doesn't seem to scale, so this isn't particularly convincing to me.
I still don't expect Zoro to leave Luffy unguarded while Luffy is unable to fight, but again we'll see.
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