How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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Because not everybody has the power to tell which Haki belongs to who?? ODEN GAVE KAIDO PTSD. Of course Kaido recognized Odens Haki.

Why did Kaido not comment on Luffys Ryou?

Why did Zoro ask if that’s the new Haki that Luffy learned??

Why you think it’s impossible to store Haki for a sword that consumes the Owners Haki???

Question over question and you can’t answer a single one
He literally says the scabbards were using odens ryou as well. You are really delusional
 
The scabbards use level 2 hardening imo, which is still advanced version of haki. It's just that Luffy's level of haki is at stage 3, allowing him to destroy things from the inside
If you paid attention to what Hyo said in Udon, the only Scabbard you can argue for would be Kawamatsu. There is literally nothing special implied about the Haki of the others level wise. The only special detail comes from Kaido calling it Oden's Haki but that's pretty vague
 
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KAIDO D. STRONGER

IMO

Hiryuu Kaen: 150
Kong Gatling Gun: 60
Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki: 30
Red Roc: 12

I think you're underrating Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes:

  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
    • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
      • There are three separate panels to highlight this:


  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki knocked Kaido down:
  • Killer expresses surprise that Zoro cut Kaido.
  • Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido. This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage.
    • She did not comment that Killer's, Law's, Kidd's or Luffy's other attacks (Kong Gun, Kong Rifle, Rhino Schneider) damaged Kaido.
    • Based on Mama's reaction, it should be much more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Gatling).
    • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
  • Kaido acknowledged that Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki hurt him
    • The only other attack Kaido acknowledged hurt him was Red Roc.
      • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife, Kidd's Slam Gibson, and Luffy's Kong Rifle "tricks":
      • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is the only successful attack to receive special recognition/treatment from the Yonkou
    • The other was Luffy's Red Roc.

Kong Gatling probably dealt more damage than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki, but the difference may be overstated:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up much more blood than Kong Gatling
    • It also cut Kaido up and drew blood from him directly
  • It overwhelmed and completely destroyed Kaido's named tornado attack



He wasn't fully knocked to the ground, he recovered while he was falling down:
I'm watching kaido on the panel all the time in the sky, trying to bite luffy, not even appearing to be falling.
 

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  • Kaido has dealt zero damage to Zoro in Dragon form.
  • Zoro has neutralised Dragon Kaido's entire offensive arsenal.
  • Zoro can readily harm Dragon!Kaido.
    • Tatsumaki is a mid tier attack, and it cut Kaido up.

I think Santoryu Zoro beats Dragon!Kaido. I don't even understand how Dragon!Kaido is supposed to win. Literally his entire offensive arsenal is hard countered.

Zoro has barely started using his stronger attacks with Enma, and he can already readily harm Kaido. He had much stronger attacks than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki.

At any rate, Zoro has only looked so impressive because he's been working overtime to protect Luffy. He's only attacked of his own volition once (the initial Rengoku Oni Giri). The other two were counterattacks he made while protecting Luffy.

If Zoro didn't have to rescue Luffy six times, he would have been much more impressive.
I don't want to go too deep into this and waste time discussing trivial details but the fundamental necessity behind making this fight a team battle is none of them are capable of handling Kaido on their own. Our opinions of what Zoro/Kaido can or cannot do maters not tbh. The fact that Oda took the route of making Zoro and Luffy take on an opponent at the same time which he doesn't normally do should tell you that this is not an opponent they can individually handle. And as I said earlier, Luffy wouldn't need Zoro to beat Kaido if he's already as strong as Garp or Rayleigh. Much of the same goes to Zoro.
 

Zolo

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We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.

So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.


Get rect @Chrono @SanjiIsStrongerThanZolo
Enma still a power up :luuh:
 
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