Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 960: Kozuki Oden Takes the Stage
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Could you just try to discuss normaly?
Damn that’s a bad style.
all i say is, it is possible. Just because you mix some dates and tell something else is impossible (f.e. Koshiro goes back to wano to help Oden, or that his father left without him), it doesn’t mean it is. Obviously you can’t or don’t want to follow the theory, which is fine. But there are many points now hinting in exact that direction. For example Wado and the optical similarity.
so there are many ways that Oda can exactly build all this up and there is not one fact which say this isn’t koshiro in the chapter. Even if his birthplace isn’t wano, it still doesn’t proof anything.
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It is possible kuina is alive. Unlikely, but possible. I mean... „falling down the stairs“...
Damn that’s a bad style.
all i say is, it is possible. Just because you mix some dates and tell something else is impossible (f.e. Koshiro goes back to wano to help Oden, or that his father left without him), it doesn’t mean it is. Obviously you can’t or don’t want to follow the theory, which is fine. But there are many points now hinting in exact that direction. For example Wado and the optical similarity.
so there are many ways that Oda can exactly build all this up and there is not one fact which say this isn’t koshiro in the chapter. Even if his birthplace isn’t wano, it still doesn’t proof anything.
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It is possible kuina is alive. Unlikely, but possible. I mean... „falling down the stairs“...
Actually dude if you go back grouch this entire argument you'll notice that I'M the one trying to make your theory work... I'M the one constantly making the timeline and trying to ask you for explanations for the time line that accommodates your theory
Problem is that after I present to you the time line that would make your theory work, you realise how ridiculous it is and choose to say things we already know in the story are Wrong... You just say no, the events that have been established are wrong because your theory MUST make sense and that's where all this started from
Hehehe, i mean you got yourself a good free pass claiming that vivre cards are lying to you and yet you use things like Koshirou's age which also just came from the Vivre card to make your points... I can even ask you where the Vivre cards actually supposedly lied to you and I think you won't have are actually answer... The Vivre cards OMIT things... they don't print lies... They omitted when Shanks became an emperor and people made up their own timeline from the ommission... and now people want to go on a crusade that vivre cards lie because the fan head canon about he omission was wrong... Kid has COC and the Vivre card just Omits it... The Vivre card doesn't say "Kid doesn't have CoC"...
In fact let me do you one better... Koshirou's vivre card doesn't say he was borders in Shimotsuki village... It doesnt give a village of birth... It's just says "East blue"... Kuina's vivre card specifically says she was born in shimotsuki village... Notice the difference... There was an omission... intentionally by Oda he made a very obvious omission... BUT YOU ARE SAYING ODA JUST LIED... That Koshiro was not born in east blue at all
Anyway, if you think the Vivre cards are just lying to you with no proof of it then that's your business but at least there's things very clearly in the timeline that you are choosing to overlook...
Problem is that after I present to you the time line that would make your theory work, you realise how ridiculous it is and choose to say things we already know in the story are Wrong... You just say no, the events that have been established are wrong because your theory MUST make sense and that's where all this started from
Hehehe, i mean you got yourself a good free pass claiming that vivre cards are lying to you and yet you use things like Koshirou's age which also just came from the Vivre card to make your points... I can even ask you where the Vivre cards actually supposedly lied to you and I think you won't have are actually answer... The Vivre cards OMIT things... they don't print lies... They omitted when Shanks became an emperor and people made up their own timeline from the ommission... and now people want to go on a crusade that vivre cards lie because the fan head canon about he omission was wrong... Kid has COC and the Vivre card just Omits it... The Vivre card doesn't say "Kid doesn't have CoC"...
In fact let me do you one better... Koshirou's vivre card doesn't say he was borders in Shimotsuki village... It doesnt give a village of birth... It's just says "East blue"... Kuina's vivre card specifically says she was born in shimotsuki village... Notice the difference... There was an omission... intentionally by Oda he made a very obvious omission... BUT YOU ARE SAYING ODA JUST LIED... That Koshiro was not born in east blue at all
Anyway, if you think the Vivre cards are just lying to you with no proof of it then that's your business but at least there's things very clearly in the timeline that you are choosing to overlook...
There is a certain parallel between Hercules and the Oden. Incredible strength since childhood, the change of the river flow, the future battle with the boar.
Childhood
Heracles and his twin were just eight months old when Hera sent two giant snakes into the children's chamber. Iphicles cried from fear, but his brother grabbed a snake in each hand and strangled them
By age 2 Oden was able to catch 2 rabbits.
Extraordinary strength, courage, ingenuity, and sexual prowess with both males and females were among the characteristics commonly attributed to him.
Oden has similar traits.
More than sure that we are waiting for 12 Labours.
Hylas - Denjuro, and probably Scopper Gaban. Neko and Inu
Argo - OJ.
Argonauts - Roger's crew.
Neko and Inu serve as Oden's retainers and also was in both crews - Rodger's and WB.
Childhood
Heracles and his twin were just eight months old when Hera sent two giant snakes into the children's chamber. Iphicles cried from fear, but his brother grabbed a snake in each hand and strangled them
By age 2 Oden was able to catch 2 rabbits.
Extraordinary strength, courage, ingenuity, and sexual prowess with both males and females were among the characteristics commonly attributed to him.
Oden has similar traits.
More than sure that we are waiting for 12 Labours.
- Slay the Nemean lion. - Nemean lion could not be killed with mortals' weapons because its golden fur was impervious to attack. Its claws were sharper than mortals' swords and could cut through any armor. Kaido?
- Slay the nine-headed Lernaean Hydra. - Orochi
- Capture the Ceryneian Hind.
- Capture the Erymanthian Boar. - next chapter
- Clean the Augean stables in a single day. - Heracles succeeded by rerouting the rivers Alpheus and Peneus to wash out the filth. Done? He changed the flow of the river, does that count? Or will it happen in the future?
- Slay the Stymphalian birds.
- Capture the Cretan Bull.
- Steal the Mares of Diomedes.
- Obtain the girdle of Hippolyta. - A former empress of the Kuja - Gloriosa(Elder Nyon). When she was younger, during her period ruling as the Kuja empress, Gloriosa left Amazon Lily and went to sea after falling in love with an unnamed man which led her to suffer Love Sickness
- Obtain the cattle of the monster Geryon.
- Steal the apples of the Hesperides. - DF, Giants.
- Capture and bring back Cerberus. - undreworld, Pluto, Ancient Weapon.
Hylas - Denjuro, and probably Scopper Gaban. Neko and Inu
Argo - OJ.
Argonauts - Roger's crew.
Neko and Inu serve as Oden's retainers and also was in both crews - Rodger's and WB.
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They wont accept this
They believe zoro mohawk have better characterisation than others
When in fact Zoro is useless unless it is a fight or to say one line.
Everytime we see Mihawk is him saying one line, making no big moves, no interesting plans
They think being a good character is saying one line everytime we see you and cutting something
They believe zoro mohawk have better characterisation than others
When in fact Zoro is useless unless it is a fight or to say one line.
Everytime we see Mihawk is him saying one line, making no big moves, no interesting plans
They think being a good character is saying one line everytime we see you and cutting something
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