Powers & Abilities Is Oden's haki inside Enma?
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Third panel we see the "dragon" Zoro creates for his attack.
There we can clearly see that only Enma have the more "darkened" aura around it.
And just because Zoro's attack uses the 3 swords, it doesn't mean that all 3 need to connect with its target.
Also is hard to say that "the 3 swords could have hit the exactly same spot", due to the swords positioning.
As things stands, Zoro used a 3 sword move, but only Enma managed to cut Kaido's scales.
No wonder Kaido later mentions just Oden's sword.
There we can clearly see that only Enma have the more "darkened" aura around it.
And just because Zoro's attack uses the 3 swords, it doesn't mean that all 3 need to connect with its target.
Also is hard to say that "the 3 swords could have hit the exactly same spot", due to the swords positioning.
As things stands, Zoro used a 3 sword move, but only Enma managed to cut Kaido's scales.
No wonder Kaido later mentions just Oden's sword.
1. are you mental? kaido and big mom have NEVER mentioned zoro's power specifically. instead they mention how dangerous that "sword" because it gives off the aura of oden. show me where they achnowlege zoros strenth without using enma...don't worry i'll wait
2. he took back his basic arnament haki. and you can SEE his entire arm is black at that moment. and you talk about ME making stuff up
3. he was surprised...you see it on his expression and he asked a question like he didnt know what it was.
no because he could use ID ryou in other swords not only enma.
2. he took back his basic arnament haki. and you can SEE his entire arm is black at that moment. and you talk about ME making stuff up
3. he was surprised...you see it on his expression and he asked a question like he didnt know what it was.
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So Oden got carried by Enma? 
Also is hard to say that "the 3 swords could have hit the exactly same spot", due to the swords positioning.
As things stands, Zoro used a 3 sword move, but only Enma managed to cut Kaido's scales.
No wonder Kaido later mentions just Oden's sword.
As things stands, Zoro used a 3 sword move, but only Enma managed to cut Kaido's scales.
No wonder Kaido later mentions just Oden's sword.
- Killer says Zoro cut his scales
- Mama says that brat cut Kaido
- Kaido mentions that it hurts and notices Oden's sword, but he doesn't mention being cut exclusively by Oden's sword.
This is baseless headcanon. If only Enma cut Kaido, the manga would have shown it. You wouldn't need to invent headcanon to try and explain why only Enma cut Kaido.
The flat earth argument actually works more against Zorofans.
"Here's a picture from space that the earth is round"
"Doesn't mean anything, earth is flat"
"Kaido saying Oden's presence/aura is in that sword and strange haki is coming from it"
"Doesn't mean anything, Oden's haki isn't in it"
Don't see anyone making up any evidence, just reading the pages.
"Here's a picture from space that the earth is round"
"Doesn't mean anything, earth is flat"
"Kaido saying Oden's presence/aura is in that sword and strange haki is coming from it"
"Doesn't mean anything, Oden's haki isn't in it"
Don't see anyone making up any evidence, just reading the pages.
Are you serious the aura is around Sandai
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Are you serious the aura is around Sandai
When the dark aura appears, only the blade is shown.
In the panel below, only Enma has it, on his right hand.
In the big panel, Enma has the same "flame" pattern as the blade shown in the panel you used. It is Enma, in his right hand.
It's not the same thing. Enma has Oden's soul but not his Haki in it.
All true and it's all because Zoro is now the rightful owner of the sword. He earned the power up because he tamed it so there is no point in bitching about it.
Zoro is reaching Mihawk level one way or another even if he doesn't have Enma.
All true and it's all because Zoro is now the rightful owner of the sword. He earned the power up because he tamed it so there is no point in bitching about it.
Zoro is reaching Mihawk level one way or another even if he doesn't have Enma.
Why did Kaido say 'strange haki' instead of Oden's haki when in the previous chapter he had no problem saying Oden's presence. I think it's the case that Enma is doing something to Zoro's own haki which makes it 'strange'.
Kaido already knows about Oden's haki, why would he wonder "what's this strange haki?"
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Kaido already knows about Oden's haki, why would he wonder "what's this strange haki?"
The blacksmith explains enma takes more haki than the user wishes to use. He doesn't say anything about it storing the old sword owner's haki. Yet, you and others could claim that the blacksmith doesn't know what he's talking about.
Kaido states he feels a strange haki, as in unfamiliar haki. Yet, you seen to believe that he's actually talking about Oden haki even though he's familiar with that haki.
Yes, please tell me there is no evidence.
Kaido states he feels a strange haki, as in unfamiliar haki. Yet, you seen to believe that he's actually talking about Oden haki even though he's familiar with that haki.
Yes, please tell me there is no evidence.
1. are you mental? kaido and big mom have NEVER mentioned zoro's power specifically. instead they mention how dangerous that "sword" because it gives off the aura of oden. show me where they achnowlege zoros strenth without using enma...don't worry i'll wait
2. he took back his basic arnament haki. and you can SEE his entire arm is black at that moment. and you talk about ME making stuff up
3. he was surprised...you see it on his expression and he asked a question like he didnt know what it was.
no because he could use ID ryou in other swords not only enma.
2. he took back his basic arnament haki. and you can SEE his entire arm is black at that moment. and you talk about ME making stuff up
3. he was surprised...you see it on his expression and he asked a question like he didnt know what it was.
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no because he could use ID ryou in other swords not only enma.
2. He took back his basic CoA, yet it said it took Ryou from him. Your hamd or arm can be black while using Ryou you 🤡 Learn how to read.
Literally states it suck the Ryou from him. Unless you got panels to back up the BS stop replying to me.
3. Lol 🤡 no he wasn't he had a regular looking face and the dialogue said noting like that. Once again. Get bodied 🤡
That wouldn't be enough to make Zoro's haki seem strange :zorothink:
Enma is a magical sword, it has to do something wierd. if it isn't Oden's haki then it might compress Zoro's one in a denser version.
Or produce a totally different kind of haki using Zoro's one
If it is Oden's haki, Oda is certainly going to let us know that.
G4: Odenman is necessary
Enma is a magical sword, it has to do something wierd. if it isn't Oden's haki then it might compress Zoro's one in a denser version.
Or produce a totally different kind of haki using Zoro's one
If it is Oden's haki, Oda is certainly going to let us know that.
G4: Odenman is necessary
That wouldn't be enough to make Zoro's haki seem strange :zorothink:
Enma is a magical sword, it has to do something wierd. if it isn't Oden's haki then it might compress Zoro's one in a denser version.
Or produce a totally different kind of haki using Zoro's one
If it is Oden's haki, Oda is certainly going to let us know that.
G4: Odenman is necessary
Enma is a magical sword, it has to do something wierd. if it isn't Oden's haki then it might compress Zoro's one in a denser version.
Or produce a totally different kind of haki using Zoro's one
If it is Oden's haki, Oda is certainly going to let us know that.
G4: Odenman is necessary
All enma does is forces more haki from the user. It doesn't make the user's haki stronger.
Or...or...it was Zoro's haki which Enma emits that makes Kaidou feel strange because of its weird flowing pattern
I never said the blacksmith doesn't know about Enma, I said after Oden passed away, his will was passed down to the Scabbards and his swords (children) to beat Kaido and open Wano. Until Kaido says it's actually Zoro's haki he felt, I'll continue to say it was Oden's.
As I'm typing this, I just got really fucking bored of this topic.
Once again BM clearly states "He" cut Kaido, not the sword. Even calls him a brat. Once again read one piece not 4 piece
2. He took back his basic CoA, yet it said it took Ryou from him. Your hamd or arm can be black while using Ryou you 🤡 Learn how to read.
Literally states it suck the Ryou from him. Unless you got panels to back up the BS stop replying to me.
3. Lol 🤡 no he wasn't he had a regular looking face and the dialogue said noting like that. Once again. Get bodied 🤡
2. He took back his basic CoA, yet it said it took Ryou from him. Your hamd or arm can be black while using Ryou you 🤡 Learn how to read.
Literally states it suck the Ryou from him. Unless you got panels to back up the BS stop replying to me.
3. Lol 🤡 no he wasn't he had a regular looking face and the dialogue said noting like that. Once again. Get bodied 🤡
what was the sword zoro cut kaido with? enma right?
HONESTLY did you even read the panels you yourself showed? Kaido comments "ahh that hurts...I see that must be Odens sword" enma was the ONLY sword that hurt him in that attack and ALL of zoros swords were hardened.
2. No, stop reading 2 piece...Ryou is just what people in wano call all types of haki just like mantra in skypiea.
barrier ryou is just an advanced version of arnament and internal destruction is a step even higher. if it sucks out adv ryou from zoro isn't that just proving my point
3. Are you blind? do you not see that surprised mark right besides zoros face?
1. You have failed as expected to show me a panel where they acnowledge zoro and NOT the sword. let me ask you this,
what was the sword zoro cut kaido with? enma right?
HONESTLY did you even read the panels you yourself showed? Kaido comments "ahh that hurts...I see that must be Odens sword" enma was the ONLY sword that hurt him in that attack and ALL of zoros swords were hardened.
2. No, stop reading 2 piece...Ryou is just what people in wano call all types of haki just like mantra in skypiea.
barrier ryou is just an advanced version of arnament and internal destruction is a step even higher. if it sucks out adv ryou from zoro isn't that just proving my point
3. Are you blind? do you not see that surprised mark right besides zoros face?
what was the sword zoro cut kaido with? enma right?
HONESTLY did you even read the panels you yourself showed? Kaido comments "ahh that hurts...I see that must be Odens sword" enma was the ONLY sword that hurt him in that attack and ALL of zoros swords were hardened.
2. No, stop reading 2 piece...Ryou is just what people in wano call all types of haki just like mantra in skypiea.
barrier ryou is just an advanced version of arnament and internal destruction is a step even higher. if it sucks out adv ryou from zoro isn't that just proving my point
3. Are you blind? do you not see that surprised mark right besides zoros face?
2. Are you stupid? Zoro flowed the ryou back inside his body. Hyo already said what Ryou was for a Swordsman. Thats cutting noting and everything.
3. Are you blind Zoro not saying anything about not knowing. Everything you state is headcannon
1. Zoro cut kaido with what? you never answered lol
I specifically asked you to show a panel of them acknowledging zoro's Strength WITHOUT enma. instead you show me a panel of meme saying he cut kaido WITH ONLY ENMA in a three sword style attack.
gtfo
kaido says the pain came DIRECTLY from enma. what are you on dude?
2. did you read what i said? ryou IS arnament haki. thats what they call it in wano.
3. then why was he surprised? you can clearly see the distinct mark next to his face.
I specifically asked you to show a panel of them acknowledging zoro's Strength WITHOUT enma. instead you show me a panel of meme saying he cut kaido WITH ONLY ENMA in a three sword style attack.
gtfo kaido says the pain came DIRECTLY from enma. what are you on dude?
2. did you read what i said? ryou IS arnament haki. thats what they call it in wano.
3. then why was he surprised? you can clearly see the distinct mark next to his face.