General & Others Ruination of a character - Sanji, The Predator, The Gag and the Rock Lee of One Piece

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

there are people here that will say/defend sanji's character progression after wci when the only change I saw is a bloke who went from having fatal nosebleeds
to a creep who now has a gift from daddy to creep on women in baths.

wci if anything exposed the fact that he had little faith in luffy in the first place
begged big mom to save his life ,
for someone who had been in the crew so long , he acted like he didnt know luffy would be after him at all.

nail in the coffin was crying after puddings betrayal
he really thought big mom was honest and pudding was in love with him .
so much for the wise strawhat tactician.
we get to wano
in the heat of the battle
finding more women is still the focus...... lol.



I find people that act like sanji got better funny in the best possible way
he's a joke
but I am not in any mood to write an essay on him.

 

[Adam 🍎]

there are people here that will say/defend sanji's character progression after wci when the only change I saw is a bloke who went from having fatal nosebleeds
to a creep who now has a gift from daddy to creep on women in baths.

wci if anything exposed the fact that he had little faith in luffy in the first place
begged big mom to save his life ,
for someone who had been in the crew so long , he acted like he didnt know luffy would be after him at all.

nail in the coffin was crying after puddings betrayal
he really thought big mom was honest and pudding was in love with him .
so much for the wise strawhat tactician.
we get to wano
in the heat of the battle
finding more women is still the focus...... lol.



I find people that act like sanji got better funny in the best possible way
he's a joke
but I am not in any mood to write an essay on him.

Sanji figured out Viola is lying from the start but trusts Big Mom that openly said she wants to kill Luffy back in Fishman Island

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

They were all peeping and flash of Nami was with consent



His leg broke bcs he didnt counter Vergo's force with his own. Not bcs of DJ

Ok so you admit Sanji has peeped without consent before .Now adress why he wanted the suke no mi only to peep

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

> Sanji groped Nami's boobs for comedic effect.

People: "OMG Sanji is a sexual predator."

> Absalom touching Nami in the bath and almost rape her back in Thriller Bark.

People: "I allow it."

> Sanji make a self-sacrifice in front of Kuma to protect his crew.

People: "Meh, nothing special."

Zoro sneak attacked Sanji from behind and decided to take Luffy's pain.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Woro hype!!!!!!!!! Sugoi-ne!!!!!!!!"

> Sanji outclassed Kalifa in everything but can't hit her due to his chivalry.

People: "OMG Robin is in danger, you should kick her or get out of the way or something."

> Sanji blocking Big Mom's attack

People: "OMG, where does Sanji not hitting women chivalry go?!?!?!?!?!? Sanji is dog shit character."

> Sanji told Zeff and Ivankov that he wants to get stronger in order to protect his crew from danger.

People: "He's just a cook."

> Luffy declared war against Big Mom back in WCI.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Zoro-senpai's words in Zou was correct, Big Mom is in Wano because of Sanji."

Etc etc.

Me:

Judge's son is useless fighter, he should just stay in the kitchen.
Summon @Zoro D Goat

No.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

Ok so you admit Sanji has peeped without consent before .Now adress why he wanted the suke no mi only to peep

Judge's son was sniffing woman from the 1st moment we saw him lol

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Judge's son was sniffing woman from the 1st moment we saw him lol

When?

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Sanjis character wasnt ruined it's just he was never a good character

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanjis character wasnt ruined it's just he was never a good character

He had potential at the very beginning, but then Oda introduced his quirks which I didn't enjoy in all honesty.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Sanjis character wasnt ruined it's just he was never a good character

I'm pretty sure that pre-timeskip Sanji was actually one of the best character.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

> Sanji groped Nami's boobs for comedic effect.

People: "OMG Sanji is a sexual predator."

> Absalom touching Nami in the bath and almost rape her back in Thriller Bark.

People: "I allow it."

> Sanji make a self-sacrifice in front of Kuma to protect his crew.

People: "Meh, nothing special."

Zoro sneak attacked Sanji from behind and decided to take Luffy's pain.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Woro hype!!!!!!!!! Sugoi-ne!!!!!!!!"

> Sanji outclassed Kalifa in everything but can't hit her due to his chivalry.

People: "OMG Robin is in danger, you should kick her or get out of the way or something."

> Sanji blocking Big Mom's attack

People: "OMG, where does Sanji not hitting women chivalry go?!?!?!?!?!? Sanji is dog shit character."

> Sanji told Zeff and Ivankov that he wants to get stronger in order to protect his crew from danger.

People: "He's just a cook."

> Luffy declared war against Big Mom back in WCI.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Zoro-senpai's words in Zou was correct, Big Mom is in Wano because of Sanji."

Etc etc.

Me:

No.

Let's break your "arguments":

Sanji groped Nami's boobs for comedic effect.

People: "OMG Sanji is a sexual predator."

> Absalom touching Nami in the bath and almost rape her back in Thriller Bark.

People: "I allow it."

LMAO nobody give a shit about Absalom
Do you see absalom fanboys who defend him? Can you name anyone who care for his death?
Next

> Sanji make a self-sacrifice in front of Kuma to protect his crew.

People: "Meh, nothing special."

Zoro sneak attacked Sanji from behind and decided to take Luffy's pain.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Woro hype!!!!!!!!! Sugoi-ne!!!!!!!!"

Sanji - didn't take the pain so no one care
Zoro - take the pain so people care
Simple.
Next

> Sanji outclassed Kalifa in everything but can't hit her due to his chivalry.

People: "OMG Robin is in danger, you should kick her or get out of the way or something."

> Sanji blocking Big Mom's attack

People: "OMG, where does Sanji not hitting women chivalry go?!?!?!?!?!? Sanji is dog shit character."

People don't like hypocrites *SHOCK*
Next

> Sanji told Zeff and Ivankov that he wants to get stronger in order to protect his crew from danger.

People: "He's just a cook."

The people right - He's just a cook.
Next

> Luffy declared war against Big Mom back in WCI.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Zoro-senpai's words in Zou was correct, Big Mom is in Wano because of Sanji."

Etc etc.

Me:

But Big Meme in Wano because of Sanji - if they did fo straight to Wano she wouldn't follow them she only pick a fight with Crydo to get Luffy because Luffy pissed her off and Luffy pissed her off when he tried to save Sanji's after Sanji on his own decided to trust war criminals to not target his crew and almost got assasined like an idiot.


@Zoro D Goat do you have better "arguments"? Don Le Fishe is bored.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Let's break your "arguments":

LMAO nobody give a shit about Absalom
Do you see absalom fanboys who defend him? Can you name anyone who care for his death?
Next

I seen plenty of those guys back in Oro Jackson.

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

I seen plenty of those guys back in Oro Jackson.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I saw your patricians thread btw. Gonna comment on it sometime later today.:cheers:

 

[Enma]

> Sanji groped Nami's boobs for comedic effect.

People: "OMG Sanji is a sexual predator."

I wouldn't have any problems with it, if not the way he did it. In all honesty, i'd do that too, just out of curiosity (i'm a woman now, of course i'd be curious). But i wouldn't go like he did, i'm not a pervert, especially when the person you're borrowing body from is right fucking here.

> Absalom touching Nami in the bath and almost rape her back in Thriller Bark.

People: "I allow it."

> Sanji make a self-sacrifice in front of Kuma to protect his crew.

People: "Meh, nothing special."

But he didn't, though he should be praised for it.

Zoro sneak attacked Sanji from behind and decided to take Luffy's pain.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Woro hype!!!!!!!!! Sugoi-ne!!!!!!!!"

Zoro decided to do it before Sanji, it's Sanji who interrupted and unlike Zoro, Sanji wouldn't survive for sure (he could barely stand)

> Sanji outclassed Kalifa in everything but can't hit her due to his chivalry.

People: "OMG Robin is in danger, you should kick her or get out of the way or something."

And they are right

> Sanji blocking Big Mom's attack

People: "OMG, where does Sanji not hitting women chivalry go?!?!?!?!?!? Sanji is dog shit character."

Nah, I was actually proud for Sanji for doing that, until Oda ruined it with his "he never hit her, he blocked"

> Sanji told Zeff and Ivankov that he wants to get stronger in order to protect his crew from danger.

People: "He's just a cook."

Strong is a vague term.

> Luffy declared war against Big Mom back in WCI.

People: "OMG Grandmaster Zoro-senpai's words in Zou was correct, Big Mom is in Wano because of Sanji."

Technically she is for Luffy's head, but it's Luffy's fault.

 

[vikas]

Sanjis character wasnt ruined it's just he was never a good character

I keep telling this. It was never that good to begin with so adding more shit to shit doesn't really matter... it still a steaming pile of shit.

 

[Doggo]

Mr2 transformed into Nami and showed her boobs to the entire crew when he was introduced. That was almost as bad as the groping.
Yet, we dont see it getting brought up half the times.

Show me someone trashing Mr.2. In fact, Mr2 is one of the most beloved side characters, especially after Impel Down.

Is someone gonna also talk about Ivankov forcefully making someone change gender? Again, not much mentioning.

Not liking a character is fine, but if you didnt like Sanji prior to TS, there's 0 point discussing it. You just dont like the character and never will, and its not the "pervert gags" that are preventing you. So, no point trying to use them to justify why you dont like the character.
Just say "I prefer others characters."

 

[Edwar.D.O]

Oda has ruined his character and doesn’t give him much these days....but to say he was never a good character, absolute blasphemy.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

People act like Sanji is some kind of new breed of pervert lmao. Roshi, Jiraiya, Kon, Brock all are perverts but they have a lot of fans lol.

 

[Doggo]

Oda has ruined his character and doesn’t give him much these days....but to say he was never a good character, absolute blasphemy.

There's salvation.
If the bath peep was a "one time thing" just to bring back the joke from TB, I can actually live with it, despite hating it with all my guts.
That's why I'm waiting until the end of Wano to re-evaluate if Sanji is still my favorite SH. The nosebleed is basically gone, only happened with Nami, and basically everybody there had a nosebleed, he actually had a nice dynamic with Pudding, so I'm willing to wait, for now.

 

[Finalbeta]

People act like Sanji is some kind of new breed of pervert lmao. Roshi, Jiraiya, Kon, Brock all are perverts but they have a lot of fans lol.

That's mostly in that their personalities look fancier overall, despite their heavy condemnation.