Anime & Manga Sanji fans are really Judge's sons/daughters.

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Blah blah blah
Without his mom he becomes an emotionless robot
Without reiju he never escapes to even meet zeff in the first place
Its hilarious how you sink so low to diminish that to big up a throwaway line from zeff
Lmfao nice to him ? They literally saved his life emotionally and physically
It could have been his Mom's dying request as well if the flashback was written to support that.

Point is, it has to be something another forces upon Sanji.

No need to repeat the "throwaway line" meme. Anyone remotely intelligent could already tell how intelectually dishonest you are the first time you did it.
 
I agree with the sentiment that there's no good reason to hate on Sanji

However, you are guilty of a mistake many make with your first argument in this thread. The Baratie scene is always brought up while ignoring the whole discussion that happens around it afterwards and it's conclusion



It's not that Sanji did not have it in him, but that he'd "stifle that very spear" for Zeff's sake.

That arc serves as evidence that he can be like Luffy and Zoro in this regard, not the opposite. That's what kickstarts his journey.



This is very true for Luffy and Zoro as well btw. They both get swayed by emotions and put themselves in harm way for the sake of others weaker than them. Luffy and Zoro would not be "perfect Germa soldiers" either.
Chief gotta disagree with you, there’s several adequate reasons to hate on Sanji for, but most Sanji fans are blind to see that
 
Honestly this thread is so stupid. It says Sanji fans are Judge's children because we apparently want "Sanji to be like Zoro and Luffy".Then wouldn't that logically make Zoro the exact same as the Vinsmoke children lmao.
I know right?
Also Sanji becoming a strong fighter (which he is) while keeping his emotions is actually the best payback to Judge's horrible treatment of Sanji as a child for "being weak" not the other way around lmao
Again 0 IQ
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
It could have been his Mom's dying request as well if the flashback was written to support that.

Point is, it has to be something another forces upon Sanji.

No need to repeat the "throwaway line" meme. Anyone remotely intelligent could already tell how intelectually dishonest you are the first time you did it.
The only one being intellectually dishonest is you playing down what his mom and sister did for him
 
Chief gotta disagree with you, there’s several adequate reasons to hate on Sanji for, but most Sanji fans are blind to see that
Well, i also have to call out you pointing out TB Zoro's moment, and ignoring that Sanji basically did the same thing Zoro did in that arc, when it comes to offering himself to take Luffy's pain.

It's both on panel for us to see



as well as being reminded to us by Oda in the very next chapter



Because it's really important to know that he was just as willing as Zoro to give up his life for Luffy, Zoro and everyone else.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You are really wasting your time by thinking that Zoro wanker can understand English.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...oilers-discussion.10903/page-308#post-1091433
''There is no top 3, Luffy, Zoro, whoevers next...''
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Oh look stephen pauls punching bag is getting brave. How long till you run to the mods like a pussy this time ?
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Well, i also have to call out you pointing out TB Zoro's moment, and ignoring that Sanji basically did the same thing Zoro did in that arc, when it comes to offering himself to take Luffy's pain.

It's both on panel for us to see



as well as being reminded to us by Oda in the very next chapter



Because it's really important to know that he was just as willing as Zoro to give up his life for Luffy, Zoro and everyone else.
Yet kuma doesnt even acknowledge him
 
Most of the time, depending on how favorable your opinion is of each character, fans will push for more or less significant gaps between Luffy and Zoro or Zoro and Sanji, but at the end of the day it averages out in a comparable manner, which fits Oda's way of sometimes making it seem like Luffy and Zoro are on par, and other times making it seem like Zoro and Sanji are on par.
Well I think Zoro up until the rooftop has always fought underlings wheras Luffy has fought the leader so the gap in portrayal has been wider than the gap between Zoro and Sanji. (and even with the rooftop this is a supernova group fight rather than trying to claim any on the roof are seriously Luffy's level).
Zoro and Sanji have historically gone back and forth fighting the strongest and second strongest underling (usually the one fighting the weaker has some nerf and deals with the fight at an easier difficulty).
 
The only one being intellectually dishonest is you playing down what his mom and sister did for him
I already said that for example his Mother could have been the one to make that request, with some details added to the story leading to that moment.

We could get into an argument of who did more and put more on the line for Sanji, but that's pointless.

Zeff making that request, given the way the story was written and how the flashback and WCI arc feed into that makes perfect sense.
 
Well, i also have to call out you pointing out TB Zoro's moment, and ignoring that Sanji basically did the same thing Zoro did in that arc, when it comes to offering himself to take Luffy's pain.

It's both on panel for us to see



as well as being reminded to us by Oda in the very next chapter



Because it's really important to know that he was just as willing as Zoro to give up his life for Luffy, Zoro and everyone else.
It’s a panel for us to see, yet Oda made the clear distinction of Sanji fainting to Zoro hitting him with the hilt. That to me was a clear as daylight indication that Sanji would not be able to withstand the hell Kuma was about to inflict. Once again, this is because he is a cook, doesn’t train, and isn’t in the physical condition to take torture like that.

I admit this post is silly, but it does come with a major point that Sanji fans want Sanji to be Zoro and Luffy, when he never was.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I already said that for example his Mother could have been the one to make that request, with some details added to the story leading to that moment.

We could get into an argument of who did more and put more on the line for Sanji, but that's pointless.

Zeff making that request, given the way the story was written and how the flashback and WCI arc feed into that makes perfect sense.
You think zeff only told him this one thing all those years ? I doubt it. Yet he just follows this one thing. Thats why its a throwaway line.
 
Fact; Zoro wankers think about Sanji fans more than others and Sanji fans live rent free inside their head.
corretc, in a way.

ever had a lumb in your mouth that you just could not leave alone.
you know it will get worse the more you play with it, but somehow you can not give it a rest.
constantly poking at it with your tongue and so on even though you know you should stop?
and its getting increasingly annoying?

thats how Zoro fans feel about Sanji fans.
 
Chief gotta disagree with you, there’s several adequate reasons to hate on Sanji for, but most Sanji fans are blind to see that
I honestly don't understand this logic

Anyone can hate a character for whatever reason they want, but that's just each person personal preference and opinion,
the issue here how some peaple wanna force this way of looking at Sanji on his fans then call them blind for not seeing the reason they hate the character for

and claim they know him better than his fans lol

Some fans might like him for the same reasons others dislikes him for, this applies to all characters
 
It’s a panel for us to see, yet Oda made the clear distinction of Sanji fainting to Zoro hitting him with the hilt. That to me was a clear as daylight indication that Sanji would not be able to withstand the hell Kuma was about to inflict. Once again, this is because he is a cook, doesn’t train, and isn’t in the physical condition to take torture like that.

I admit this post is silly, but it does come with a major point that Sanji fans want Sanji to be Zoro and Luffy, when he never was.
You miss the point of what's valuable about that moment then.



The willingness to endure all that and the fact that death was the most likely outcome is what gives that scene it's weight.

How are you guys going turn that into a power scaling device and at the same time call out others for not understanding characters or the story almost in the same breath ?
 
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