Character Discussion Which portrayal will be better: Sanji 1v1 King/Queen or Zoro participation in the group fight against Kaido?
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Yea its fine and disgraceful because that should of been his arc fight, instead he jumped him.
I always say Zoro snuck him and slept Apoo. Sanji has other opportunities to step up too. He had a chance to beat a first mate/VC/second strongest and you know what he did. He sold like the fraud he is to Gin
I always say Zoro snuck him and slept Apoo. Sanji has other opportunities to step up too. He had a chance to beat a first mate/VC/second strongest and you know what he did. He sold like the fraud he is to Gin
@Chrono Luffy vs Katakuri fight was riddled with plot armor because Oda is sometimes dog shit when it comes to drawing fights but concrete statements and portrayal can be used.
I think Luffy was meant to be at least Katakuri level towards the end of WCI.
But then Luffy was portrayed as a complete bug next to Kaido. Kaido wanted Luffy to show him something but was utterly disappointed while saying "Sigh!!" in the process.
So Zoro's Tatsumaki in latest chapter already puts Zoro at least one tier above Luffy form back then even if you don't wanna recognize the fact that Kaido and Big Mom were shitting themselves against Zoro's Hiryu Kiren or what ever the fuck.
Because Zoro broke Kaido's scales and Luffy was specifically training to do that. But Zoro did that with his fodder clearing attack also nullifying Kaido's 3 tornados in process.
But Zoro is scarring (at least) Hybrid Kaido tho.
So lets say Base Kaido from 20 years ago < Base Kaido today
Then Base Kaido that Oden scarred <<< Hybrid Kaido
So if Zoro gives Hybrid Kaido a scar, his feat is basic shitting on Oden's feat. Yeah?
Also I wanted to point out, a lot of people are OVERRATING THE FUCK out of Oden.
Like calm your titties, just cuz Oden shared one panel with Roger and Whitebeard, doesn't mean he is Roger/Whitebeard level.
Like wtf, his best feat is getting replicated and surpassed by Zoro this arc.
I think Luffy was meant to be at least Katakuri level towards the end of WCI.
But then Luffy was portrayed as a complete bug next to Kaido. Kaido wanted Luffy to show him something but was utterly disappointed while saying "Sigh!!" in the process.
So Zoro's Tatsumaki in latest chapter already puts Zoro at least one tier above Luffy form back then even if you don't wanna recognize the fact that Kaido and Big Mom were shitting themselves against Zoro's Hiryu Kiren or what ever the fuck.
Because Zoro broke Kaido's scales and Luffy was specifically training to do that. But Zoro did that with his fodder clearing attack also nullifying Kaido's 3 tornados in process.
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But Zoro is scarring (at least) Hybrid Kaido tho.
So lets say Base Kaido from 20 years ago < Base Kaido today
Then Base Kaido that Oden scarred <<< Hybrid Kaido
So if Zoro gives Hybrid Kaido a scar, his feat is basic shitting on Oden's feat. Yeah?
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Also I wanted to point out, a lot of people are OVERRATING THE FUCK out of Oden.
Like calm your titties, just cuz Oden shared one panel with Roger and Whitebeard, doesn't mean he is Roger/Whitebeard level.
Like wtf, his best feat is getting replicated and surpassed by Zoro this arc.
Firstly i'd like to say I'm not a Zoro fan. So please don't judge me as a Zoro fan. (for whose want to know my fandom , im really big fan of Sanji)
In Chapter 994 Kaido says
''It is not with the advancement of times but rather in death. That humans truly attain perfection.''
If Kaido lose in Wano i think he will be killed by someone.
Since we know Luffy can't kill his enemies , Zoro and others will do that.
We know that Kaido wants to die in his first apparance , he even tried to suicide.
Do you guys really think Kaido will lose and government will capture him? That's totally impossible.
Where are they going to put Kaido? Impel Down? Kaido had been caughted by Government several times but he has managed to escape every single time. They even tried to execute him but the guillotine was broken.
that's why I think in the end of wano arc Kaido will NOT survive.
Im not saying that Zoro will kill Kaido but there is a chance or potential about it
In Chapter 994 Kaido says
''It is not with the advancement of times but rather in death. That humans truly attain perfection.''
If Kaido lose in Wano i think he will be killed by someone.
Since we know Luffy can't kill his enemies , Zoro and others will do that.
We know that Kaido wants to die in his first apparance , he even tried to suicide.
Do you guys really think Kaido will lose and government will capture him? That's totally impossible.
Where are they going to put Kaido? Impel Down? Kaido had been caughted by Government several times but he has managed to escape every single time. They even tried to execute him but the guillotine was broken.
that's why I think in the end of wano arc Kaido will NOT survive.
Im not saying that Zoro will kill Kaido but there is a chance or potential about it
Going back to the original idea of the thread.
I'm on the "YC's are not fodders for Yonkos" team. it's a way more healthy threat scaling if this is the case.
Queen managed to knock Big Mom out after all. I don't see Shiryu being all that weaker than BB, etc.
YC's are real threats to the world. Bug the Yonkos, not only are stronger, but they also command cast armies, which include multiple YC's. So their bounties are way ahead.
YC's are extremely powerful enemies, that most SH's wouldn't be able to beat, or beat in an extreme hard fight, by the EoS.
If Sanji fights either Queen or King, who are allegedly stronger than Jack, and beat either one on a 1v1, it will be an incredible feat. Beating Kaido and Big Mom on the tag fight might be a 9.5/10 feat, but beating King or Queen on a 1v1 now would be at least a 8.5~9/10 feat.
Justice for the YC's!
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Not all SH's get arc fights every arc.
I'm on the "YC's are not fodders for Yonkos" team. it's a way more healthy threat scaling if this is the case.
Queen managed to knock Big Mom out after all. I don't see Shiryu being all that weaker than BB, etc.
YC's are real threats to the world. Bug the Yonkos, not only are stronger, but they also command cast armies, which include multiple YC's. So their bounties are way ahead.
YC's are extremely powerful enemies, that most SH's wouldn't be able to beat, or beat in an extreme hard fight, by the EoS.
If Sanji fights either Queen or King, who are allegedly stronger than Jack, and beat either one on a 1v1, it will be an incredible feat. Beating Kaido and Big Mom on the tag fight might be a 9.5/10 feat, but beating King or Queen on a 1v1 now would be at least a 8.5~9/10 feat.
Justice for the YC's!
:queenhear:
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Not all SH's get arc fights every arc.
Going back to the original idea of the thread.
I'm on the "YC's are not fodders for Yonkos" team. it's a way more healthy threat scaling if this is the case.
Queen managed to knock Big Mom out after all. I don't see Shiryu being all that weaker than BB, etc.
YC's are real threats to the world. Bug the Yonkos, not only are stronger, but they also command cast armies, which include multiple YC's. So their bounties are way ahead.
YC's are extremely powerful enemies, that most SH's wouldn't be able to beat, or beat in an extreme hard fight, by the EoS.
If Sanji fights either Queen or King, who are allegedly stronger than Jack, and beat either one on a 1v1, it will be an incredible feat. Beating Kaido and Big Mom on the tag fight might be a 9.5/10 feat, but beating King or Queen on a 1v1 now would be at least a 8.5~9/10 feat.
Justice for the YC's!
:queenhear:
Not all SH's get arc fights every arc.
I'm on the "YC's are not fodders for Yonkos" team. it's a way more healthy threat scaling if this is the case.
Queen managed to knock Big Mom out after all. I don't see Shiryu being all that weaker than BB, etc.
YC's are real threats to the world. Bug the Yonkos, not only are stronger, but they also command cast armies, which include multiple YC's. So their bounties are way ahead.
YC's are extremely powerful enemies, that most SH's wouldn't be able to beat, or beat in an extreme hard fight, by the EoS.
If Sanji fights either Queen or King, who are allegedly stronger than Jack, and beat either one on a 1v1, it will be an incredible feat. Beating Kaido and Big Mom on the tag fight might be a 9.5/10 feat, but beating King or Queen on a 1v1 now would be at least a 8.5~9/10 feat.
Justice for the YC's!
:queenhear:
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Not all SH's get arc fights every arc.
Firstly i'd like to say I'm not a Zoro fan. So please don't judge me as a Zoro fan. (for whose want to know my fandom , im really big fan of Sanji)
In Chapter 994 Kaido says
''It is not with the advancement of times but rather in death. That humans truly attain perfection.''
If Kaido lose in Wano i think he will be killed by someone.
Since we know Luffy can't kill his enemies , Zoro and others will do that.
We know that Kaido wants to die in his first apparance , he even tried to suicide.
Do you guys really think Kaido will lose and government will capture him? That's totally impossible.
Where are they going to put Kaido? Impel Down? Kaido had been caughted by Government several times but he has managed to escape every single time. They even tried to execute him but the guillotine was broken.
that's why I think in the end of wano arc Kaido will NOT survive.
Im not saying that Zoro will kill Kaido but there is a chance or potential about it
In Chapter 994 Kaido says
''It is not with the advancement of times but rather in death. That humans truly attain perfection.''
If Kaido lose in Wano i think he will be killed by someone.
Since we know Luffy can't kill his enemies , Zoro and others will do that.
We know that Kaido wants to die in his first apparance , he even tried to suicide.
Do you guys really think Kaido will lose and government will capture him? That's totally impossible.
Where are they going to put Kaido? Impel Down? Kaido had been caughted by Government several times but he has managed to escape every single time. They even tried to execute him but the guillotine was broken.
that's why I think in the end of wano arc Kaido will NOT survive.
Im not saying that Zoro will kill Kaido but there is a chance or potential about it
Law Kidd and Killer are scrubs
Luffy won't kill
So yeah Zoro would kill Kaidos ass
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Luffy is literally not portrayed as main character of Wano, Zoro is.