[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 1 - The Dancing Valentine

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MangoSenpai

Arbiter of Truth
Right, like I said, Poison is an option. An option I am open to. I'm not open to lynching to strongest town read of mine out of the three (Emi). I pick you simply because if you are responsible for the Usopp kill then I have my doubts that it came from Town, but I'm not exactly steadfast in that belief.
Hm, well my original gut feel was poison.
Hmmm.. But I just feel like QueenEmilia is digging her own grave deeper and deeper.

However, sometimes you should go with the gut feeling..
So I'll go over

Vote Posion
@Noctis @Rej @AL sama
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Aight, you and I won’t be interacting anymore in this game except through votes. No reason for you to lash out like a child just because someone disagrees with your point of view.
Lash out like a child? You're the one who seems intent on making this game is droll as you possibly can for me by refusing to read my posts (because if you'd had, you'd know what my reasons are exactly). You don't get to start a pity party after being disrespectful (because it is a sign of disrespect, in fact I'd go as far as to call it griefing) because I didn't excuse it for you.

If disagreeing with my point of view was all it took, my invective would have been levelled at several players by now. Instead it's just towards you. Now you can convince yourself what you like about my reasons, but I am so tired of players like you who demand others repeat their stances again and again and again because you can't be bothered to spend ten minutes reading the thread, demand that we all play around you, and then act indignantly when shock, some people don't take too kindly to it. If you're not prepared to give me the courtesy of reading my posts and not insist on wasting my time, then why should I offer any goodwill back? Stupid or lazy, pick whichever you prefer, or both if you like.
 

MangoSenpai

Arbiter of Truth
Lash out like a child? You're the one who seems intent on making this game is droll as you possibly can for me by refusing to read my posts (because if you'd had, you'd know what my reasons are exactly). You don't get to start a pity party after being disrespectful (because it is a sign of disrespect, in fact I'd go as far as to call it griefing) because I didn't excuse it for you.

If disagreeing with my point of view was all it took, my invective would have been levelled at several players by now. Instead it's just towards you. Now you can convince yourself what you like about my reasons, but I am so tired of players like you who demand others repeat their stances again and again and again because you can't be bothered to spend ten minutes reading the thread, demand that we all play around you, and then act indignantly when shock, some people don't take too kindly to it. If you're not prepared to give me the courtesy of reading my posts and not insist on wasting my time, then why should I offer any goodwill back? Stupid or lazy, pick whichever you prefer, or both if you like.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
Lash out like a child? You're the one who seems intent on making this game is droll as you possibly can for me by refusing to read my posts (because if you'd had, you'd know what my reasons are exactly). You don't get to start a pity party after being disrespectful (because it is a sign of disrespect, in fact I'd go as far as to call it griefing) because I didn't excuse it for you.

If disagreeing with my point of view was all it took, my invective would have been levelled at several players by now. Instead it's just towards you. Now you can convince yourself what you like about my reasons, but I am so tired of players like you who demand others repeat their stances again and again and again because you can't be bothered to spend ten minutes reading the thread, demand that we all play around you, and then act indignantly when shock, some people don't take too kindly to it. If you're not prepared to give me the courtesy of reading my posts and not insist on wasting my time, then why should I offer any goodwill back? Stupid or lazy, pick whichever you prefer, or both if you like.
The only thing I’m demanding is you keep my fucking name out of your mouth for the rest of this round, you decide if you wanna escalate this further by continuing to act like a mincing little baby. Don’t give a fuck about your reads or whatever bullshit you’re saying, so feel free to whine to someone else about respect or goodwill, I don’t wanna waste any more time on you.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Hm, well my original gut feel was poison.
Hmmm.. But I just feel like QueenEmilia is digging her own grave deeper and deeper.

However, sometimes you should go with the gut feeling..
So I'll go over

Vote Posion
@Noctis @Rej @AL sama
I hate that I have to keep defending Emi here too, because I really am not certain as to her alignment, but this is her third game. I don't believe Emi knows how to defend herself or react well to pressure at all. And it's not a third game in quick succession, the last game before this was back in like May/June of last year. There was one more, but she subbed out of that one Day 1, having made a single post. I don't know why Kro insists this is "scum Emi" - I don't know what Scum Emi looks like, but I see little reason to assume it'd be exactly the same as how Town Emi has based on her inexperience.
 
I don't believe Emi is scum. I am not 100% but idk, I really really don't think she is.

@Flower I'm growing tired of your approach to debate in this game. You insist you are Town which, if you are, makes some sense, but you must also concede that this isn't factual just yet even with the writeup. I do think you should be put to one side for now, and removed from the lynch pool. But that's all. Also, why is Poison in there, but not you? If we assume they're the losers from Night 1.

@QueenEmilia I need you to work with me here. Out of the three people that must be lynched, who should we go for?

I'm currently leaning towards Mango.
im leaning towards poison, mango just seems like hes tryna save his ass from this lynch lol
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
The only thing I’m demanding is you keep my fucking name out of your mouth for the rest of this round, you decide if you wanna escalate this further by continuing to act like a mincing little baby. Don’t give a fuck about your reads or whatever bullshit you’re saying, so feel free to whine to someone else about respect or goodwill, I don’t wanna waste any more time on you.
Aww, it seems I touched a nerve. Lol, and what are you going to do? "keep my name out of your mouth" kek, what are you, LARPing as some Internet tough guy here? I stand by everything I've said, if you don't like it, well, sucks to be you I guess.
 
I hate that I have to keep defending Emi here too, because I really am not certain as to her alignment, but this is her third game. I don't believe Emi knows how to defend herself or react well to pressure at all. And it's not a third game in quick succession, the last game before this was back in like May/June of last year. There was one more, but she subbed out of that one Day 1, having made a single post. I don't know why Kro insists this is "scum Emi" - I don't know what Scum Emi looks like, but I see little reason to assume it'd be exactly the same as how Town Emi has based on her inexperience.
OKAY THIS IS KINDA OFFENSIVE defend me without roasting me LMAO I LIKE TO THINK I COULD HANDLE PRESSURE

but u should be confident in reading me tbh, remember that wolf game we played on discord? u got me right every single time lol if theres anyone here that would know im town or not based on the way i act its u
 

MangoSenpai

Arbiter of Truth
I hate that I have to keep defending Emi here too, because I really am not certain as to her alignment, but this is her third game. I don't believe Emi knows how to defend herself or react well to pressure at all. And it's not a third game in quick succession, the last game before this was back in like May/June of last year. There was one more, but she subbed out of that one Day 1, having made a single post. I don't know why Kro insists this is "scum Emi" - I don't know what Scum Emi looks like, but I see little reason to assume it'd be exactly the same as how Town Emi has based on her inexperience.
I'm pretty sure you just said that QueenEmi was among your strongest town reads, but now you're backpedaling.
But I get what you're getting at. However, I don't know if I can neccesarily agree with the sentiment here, being new in mafia is one thing, like not knowing the lingo etc. But defending yourself and stuff like that shouldn't be translated into game experience neccesarily.
Even relatively experienced players may find difficulties creating a lie believeable enough to get through to the end.

I will agree that Flower did fixate hardcore on QueenEmi, but I never got the feeling that QueenEmi made a compelling case for herself. That is however my views on it.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Going after Poison is extensively bad.

No Poison. The last scum should be either Emilia or Mango. Let's entertain an ISO labor and see what we can come up with. Worst case scenario and we mislynch the other should be the last one. So we still have the 3 scums busted.
 
I'm pretty sure you just said that QueenEmi was among your strongest town reads, but now you're backpedaling.
But I get what you're getting at. However, I don't know if I can neccesarily agree with the sentiment here, being new in mafia is one thing, like not knowing the lingo etc. But defending yourself and stuff like that shouldn't be translated into game experience neccesarily.
Even relatively experienced players may find difficulties creating a lie believeable enough to get through to the end.

I will agree that Flower did fixate hardcore on QueenEmi, but I never got the feeling that QueenEmi made a compelling case for herself. That is however my views on it.
hes always like this he just means hes not 100% as u cant really be 100% on anything

sure i didnt make a good case for myself, i get the way i talk and my personality i can be all over the place, but i really dont see how flower or poison have made their cases better than mine
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I'm pretty sure you just said that QueenEmi was among your strongest town reads, but now you're backpedaling.
Not back peddling, I've been consistent in that I cannot guarantee Emi's alignment. I'm confident enough in my read to the point where I accept I'm now in trouble should she actually flip scum, which I think evidences the strength of my conviction on this too. But, am I offering a 100% guarantee? No, absolutely not.
But I get what you're getting at. However, I don't know if I can neccesarily agree with the sentiment here, being new in mafia is one thing, like not knowing the lingo etc. But defending yourself and stuff like that shouldn't be translated into game experience neccesarily.
Even relatively experienced players may find difficulties creating a lie believeable enough to get through to the end.
That's fair and all, but I do think knowing how to defend yourself in a way that is correct and doesn't fall for any false positive scum tells is an experience thing.
 

MangoSenpai

Arbiter of Truth
Going after Poison is extensively bad.

No Poison. The last scum should be either Emilia or Mango. Let's entertain an ISO labor and see what we can come up with. Worst case scenario and we mislynch the other should be the last one. So we still have the 3 scums busted.
Would you mind refreshing me why Poison is most definitely not one to go for?
I could read back, but a little bit lazy right at this moment
 
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