Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1005 Spoilers Discussion

[Weeman]

If Oda doesn't make Sanji fight off and defeat a calamity this forum will explode but I don't find it likely at all. I judge matters in total honesty.

Why not? Sanji is one of the main fighters on the crew and considering this is like the first arc we've had since the timeskip where almost every straw hat seems to have a fight lined up for them, it would just seem wrong to not have him get a main fight.
There's already some stuff set up with each calamity pretty much, so by all means Sanji is one of the most likely people to fight one of them.

 

[mohamedM274]

 

[Blother Fertitta]

If Oda doesn't make Sanji fight off and defeat a calamity this forum will explode but I don't find it likely at all. I judge matters in total honesty.

You don’t think he’s fighting a Calamity? Damn boi

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Anyone else skeptical about ZKK? I really want it to happen but at the same time, I know this is the series where Pound survived.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Again, my example. I just happened to have volume 78 next to me. Luffy uses two high kicks to get Dofy blocking right and the third kick in the sequence changes levels to catch him mid. That's the kinda shit people who actually fight do. That's a move Hwaorang has, straight up. Luffy for one is written as an intelligent brawler. Oda does these intelligent sequences that go over heads, but he also lampshades it so people can get it. Like the same volume has the bait and switch attack Law uses to catch Dofy twice where otherwise he was getting read. Also is the blatant Tactics no 5 from Zoro to beat a guy who could escape him by employing an enormous defensive shell

My issue is that ultimately this strategy didn't matter in the long run. Luffy just used Gear 4 to brute force his way through Doflamingo

We almost never see Characters defeating Stronger Characters with strategy alone. It honestly would have been far more satisfying if Luffy defeated Doflamingo without Gear 4

 

[Paperchampion23]

why do you think shimotsuki lore has more to do with a battle with king
from what I recall the lords of wano were killed by kaido.

Here's the scene. Yes, it says "Kaido saw to it that Ringo did not escape destruction either", however we have no idea if this is literally Kaido or his subordinates, hence the subjectivity of the scene.

I mentioned King (as a theory guys...) because its clear the subordinates rule over particular parts of Wano:

- Jack: Kuri
- Queen: Udon
- Orochi: Capital

While nothing for Hakumai, Kibi and Ringo. I was just guessing that King potentially was responsible for the Ringo massacre and ruled that region. This was pretty much before Zoro even went up to Kaido. Not only that at this point I expect King to be in charge of Hakumai, as it seems like Kibi and Ringo are just dead locations with nothing notable. Hakumai has the secret entrance, which King may or may not guard as a result.

All in all, that really has nothing to do with the legitimate connection between Sanji and Queen lol.

 

[Lunaria]

i'm pretty sure sanji will fight queen but if he doesn't fight a calamity at all i would love that

Not caring about a character and his future opponent is understandable, but hoping he won't get a strong opponent out of pure hate ? It's beyond me, honestly.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Here's the scene. Yes, it says "Kaido saw to it that Ringo did not escape destruction either", however we have no idea if this is literally Kaido or his subordinates, hence the subjectivity of the scene.

I mentioned King (as a theory guys...) because its clear the subordinates rule over particular parts of Wano:

- Jack: Kuri
- Queen: Udon
- Orochi: Capital

While nothing for Hakumai, Kibi and Ringo. I was just guessing that King potentially was responsible for the Ringo massacre and ruled that region. This was pretty much before Zoro even went up to Kaido. Not only that at this point I expect King to be in charge of Hakumai, as it seems like Kibi and Ringo are just dead locations with nothing notable. Hakumai has the secret entrance, which King may or may not guard as a result.

All in all, that really has nothing to do with the legitimate connection between Sanji and Queen lol.

Ayyyy I deadass just said King v Zoro in Ringooo let’s goo i didn’t know there’s canon stuff as some proof

 

[chacharealsmooth]

It’s a masssive dissapointment that Sanji hasn’t been given Haki Progression. Otherwise he’d be further ahead. Ffs even Usopp had it. Oda slapped on a raid Suit and called it a day. Oh well. Even then dude ain’t try to leave Maria.

He was trained by the wrong person. All of it could have been solved if Kuma sent him where Marco was. Marco would have given him an amazing training and he would be ready to New World.
I appreciate his efforts to improve himself but it seems he had not been educated properly. A person cannot learn everything on his own.

 

[Finalbeta]

You don’t think he’s fighting a Calamity? Damn boi

No the opposite.

I don't find the scenario he doesn't fight off and defeat a calamity likely. Lol.

 

[Guymieux]

Ayyyy I deadass just said King v Zoro in Ringooo let’s goo i didn’t know there’s canon stuff as some proof

There is no canon stuff as proof . Can you read ?

 

[Blother Fertitta]

He was trained by the wrong person. All of it could have been solved if Kuma sent him where Marco was. Marco would have given him an amazing training and he would be ready to New World.
I appreciate his efforts to improve himself but it seems he had not been educated properly. A person cannot learn everything on his own.

Ivankov is the most random shit. Oda thought how could I fuck Sanjis shit up and make it look like a decent spot. Sends him to Okama island.

 

[Finalbeta]

Are you Pimp of Pimps?

 

[Peroroncino]

Not caring about a character and his future opponent is understandable, but hoping he won't get a strong opponent out of pure hate ? It's beyond me, honestly.

Nah i would get a good laugh out of it in this forum i care too little about sanji to hate him

 

[Midnight Delight]

Ivankov is the most random shit. Oda thought how could I fuck Sanjis shit up and make it look like a decent spot. Sends him to Okama island.

Iva didn't even train Sanii. He just told him to fight the 99 Okama fighters. We don't even know if he's one of them.

At this point I even doubt that's the case as I really doubt someone that Kuma was terrified of is weaker than Vergo

 

[chacharealsmooth]

Ivankov is the most random shit. Oda thought how could I fuck Sanjis shit up and make it look like a decent spot. Sends him to Okama island.

Don’t misunderstand me, Ivankov is strong, else he wouldn’t have been the third in command in Revolutionary Army. He is possibly at the same ballpark with a YC3/YC2 too. However, he did not educate Sanji. He just threw him to wild and told him to steal recipes from Okamas. Maybe he interrupted the ordeal sometimes (such as explaining what Haki is when Sanji awakened and properly used it), however, that was it.
Sanji’s problem, to me, seems like improper education instead of being a weak character himself.

 

[humanbeing]

Robin is underestimated by the beast pirates for sure. the CP0 is there as well Robin is a permanent target for them too.

 

[Shiroyru]

Smh why does Oda gotta do Robin and Brook dirty like this? Get Brook out of there. They both deserve 1v1 fights

 

[draganax]

It’s a masssive dissapointment that Sanji hasn’t been given Haki Progression. Otherwise he’d be further ahead. Ffs even Usopp had it. Oda slapped on a raid Suit and called it a day. Oh well. Even then dude ain’t try to leave Maria.

sanji is basically saitama, the man learned sky walk and hell memories just from running too much.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Weirdest part is how the fuck did Iva have 99 Okama stronger than Pre Timeskip Sanji.

It's the same level of asspull as That Island that had 500 animals who would wipe the floor with Pre Timeskip Luffy.

The Powercreep is so hilarious in this Manga, yet people will pretend it isn't while making fun of Naruto