One Piece Chapter 961 Spoilers Discussion

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I somehow get the feeling that Orochi was a nice guy. I think he was bullied by Yasui and Oden. Maybe even bodily harmed. And then he wanted the power to get payback.

Maybe at the end orochi will be seeing that he did wrong and be the key to damage Kaido
I honestly think it's the exact opposite.

Oden doesn't bully anyone. All the things he has done so far actually had good intentions (I bet the harem was also him simply liberating women from abusive/horrible fiances or husbands). Yasuie also gives off the vibe of a guy who practices "tough love", but certainly not a bully. Those guys always follow a certain pattern when Oda writes them.

Orochi seems to be cunning and creepy. Oden specifically wonders "why this creep was following me the entire day?" I bet he had ill intentions from the get-go.
 
I honestly think it's the exact opposite.

Oden doesn't bully anyone. All the things he has done so far actually had good intentions (I bet the harem was also him simply liberating women from abusive/horrible fiances or husbands). Yasuie also gives off the vibe of a guy who practices "tough love", but certainly not a bully. Those guys always follow a certain pattern when Oda writes them.

Orochi seems to be cunning and creepy. Oden specifically wonders "why this creep was following me the entire day?" I bet he had ill intentions from the get-go.
Yeah you may be right with your portrayal. But i want Orochis character to have more depth. Not just the creepy ugly guy who wants power. Oda will give him an interesting path, im sure about that. But yeah you are right, oden and yasui are not the type for bullieng
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If it makes you sleep better at night then you are right.:goyea::smithnie::kata::cheers:
Prove the opposite lol
 
Yeah you may be right with your portrayal. But i want Orochis character to have more depth. Not just the creepy ugly guy who wants power. Oda will give him an interesting path, im sure about that. But yeah you are right, oden and yasui are not the type for bullieng
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Prove the opposite lol
If you don't agree with my statement that he is right if it makes him sleep better at night, then it is not me who needs to prove the opposite. It is you who needs to prove otherwise. Unless you dont sleep better at night when you are right. If that is the case then you would be the exception to the rule thus proving the rule
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so is kaidou also from wano or how come orochi knew him and worked with him to take down oden. even more with wano having closed boarders so he didn't leave wano. also with kaidou having his duel wirh moria in wano 3 years before his war with oden.
 


All the events that led to the present day, was just the weak ugly Orochi being jealous of the strong, pretty Oden, who was loved and admired by everyone.

That's why Orochi is copying Oden. Having his own harem, spreading the rumor of himself being a 2 sword style user.

I guess Oden will take Orochi under his wing only for it to become one of the top 10 betrayals in anime history.
 
so is kaidou also from wano or how come orochi knew him and worked with him to take down oden. even more with wano having closed boarders so he didn't leave wano. also with kaidou having his duel wirh moria in wano 3 years before his war with oden.
Kaido is most likely from/originates from Onigashima. He probably returned from sailing with the Rocks when Oden left to sail with Whitebeard, when Oden left for his voyage, Kaido and Orochi rose in power.
 

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All the events that led to the present day, was just the weak ugly Orochi being jealous of the strong, pretty Oden, who was loved and admired by everyone.

That's why Orochi is copying Oden. Having his own harem, spreading the rumor of himself being a 2 sword style user.

I guess Oden will take Orochi under his wing only for it to become one of the top 10 betrayals in anime history.
That betrayal was hinted at in chapter 920 when Oda was trying to skim through the part that led to Oden's capture



It's likely Oden could have survived Kaido if not for the dirty trick he pulled at that moment
 
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