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I never understood why people say that zoro has more of a reason besides luffy to be on the roof then everyone which is not true.

If anything the people with real beef in order is

1. Kidd
2. killer
3. luffy
4.zoro/law

stop saying zoro has more reason to be on the roof when it’s false

like do I actually have to explain why Kidd and killer have the most reason to be there?
Luffy is the man who will actually become pirate king though and he lost in a 1vs1 against Kaido, and he claimed he would beat Kaido 400 chapters ago.
I think that puts Luffy above Killer in direct beef with Kaido.
Kaido was kind of digusted with Orochi's excesses, but yeah both of Kidd's crew have more direct beef than Zoro.
 
Explain to me in some logical way what's the point of Zoro leaving Kaido to dunk on King?
He will not leave Kaido, the following events would have to force the match-up with King.

I'm not going to speculate, because there's no one way it could happen that i feel strongly about.

I'm not going to say that i can't be wrong, i just don't feel that i have to abandon this yet.

It's possible for example that Oda intended for Zoro to fight King, and then changed his mind later down the line. Oda made such decisions in the past. We might learn that from an SBS or something later on, and that would explain a number of things, but we're not yet at the point where that's the only option.

I can see why you and others think Zoro vs King is not happening, which is why i'm not aggressive about it and calling anyone out for disagreeing with me. We will have to see if i was wrong to stick with this or not :kayneshrug:
 
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Formerly Seth

Luffy is the man who will actually become pirate king though and he lost in a 1vs1 against Kaido, and he claimed he would beat Kaido 400 chapters ago.
I think that puts Luffy above Killer in direct beef with Kaido.
Kaido was kind of digusted with Orochi's excesses, but yeah both of Kidd's crew have more direct beef than Zoro.
Kidd's reasons to fight Kaido with Killer are standard. They got beat they want revenge.

From writing standpoint Luffy and Zoro have Wano citizens trust and belief on their backs and they are fighting for them.

Oda loves bullshit like that.

The one who has the least reasons to fight Kaido is Law.
 

Shisui

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No bro. Orochi is not a fighter. If you give any fodder a zoan obviously his base from will be weakest.......give a fighter lets say zoro a crocodile fruit who uses swords...in his animal form he is going to be much weaker than his base form.....he won't be able to use swords...simple can't compare orochi who is fodder in his base....
That's actually a good point.
 
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Formerly Seth

He will not leave Kaido, the following events would have to force the match-up with King.

I'm not going to speculate, because there's no one way it could happen that i feel strongly about.

I'm not going to say that i can't be wrong, i just don't feel that i have to abandon this yet.

It's possible for example that Oda intended for Zoro to fight King, and then changed his mind later down the line. Oda made such decisions in the past. We might learn that from an SBS or something later on, and that would explain a number of things, but we're not yet at the point where that's the only option.

I can see why you and others think Zoro vs King is not happening, which is why i'm not aggressive about it and calling anyone out for disagreeing with me. We will have to see if i was wrong to stick with this or not :kayneshrug:
You didn't answer my question.

Why would Oda make Zoro who is one of the main players vs Kaido go and dunk on King?
 
You said that Zoro scared them? Why do you mention Kid,Killer or Law? Where did BM and Kaido said Zoro's name? Show me a panel.
What are you even talking about man LOL. You are making no sense at all.
You are saying that Kaido and Big Mom mentioned Enma and hyped it up but didn't mention Zoro's name, which is dumb because Zoro is the wielder LOL
SHOW ME ONE PANEL WHERE KAIDO OR BIG MOM HYPES AN ATTACK FROM KID, KILLER, OR LAW, OR EVEN MENTION THEIR NAMES. Cmon I dare you.
 

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He will not leave Kaido, the following events would have to force the match-up with King.

I'm not going to speculate, because there's no one way it could happen that i feel strongly about.

I'm not going to say that i can't be wrong, i just don't feel that i have to abandon this yet.

It's possible for example that Oda intended for Zoro to fight King, and then changed his mind later down the line. Oda made such decisions in the past. We might learn that from an SBS or something later on, and that would explain a number of things, but we're not yet at the point where that's the only option.

I can see why you and others think Zoro vs King is not happening, which is why i'm not aggressive about it and calling anyone out for disagreeing with me. We will have to see if i was wrong to stick with this or not :kayneshrug:
To me it only would have ever been a viable option before going up to kaido
Now he's up there hurting him
Already has fire cutting
Has the set up to do more damage
There's no reason to drop back down.
 
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KAIDO D. STRONGER

What's so impressive about MARCOS?
See, Garp gave a bruise and the only bruise that MARCOS was unable to heal.
And KING and QUEEN, even in their weakest forms, are doing this ...


It is worth mentioning that not even KIZARU was able to leave a permanent bruise / injury, not even with the help of KAIROSEKI, and KING and Queen are doing the feat of MF GARP in its weakest forms.

Again we see MARCOS unscathed vs KIZARU, which is exactly the moment when MARCOS lets his guard down and Kizaru attacks him, the attack is very weak that he manages to regenerate, while he is not doing this from the attacks of KING and Queen even in ZOAN mode.

"Oh but he is facing 2 YCS".
Seriously ? is this guy you push to YONKOU level?
it's okay that he is at the admiral level, he was dominated by BIG MOM with neutralized DF.
A higher level, a YONKO, did this in QUEEN in full ZOAN mode:


Why doesn't MARCOS do the same?:choppawhat:
Wasn't he "the same" with BIG MOM? HAHAHA, he was dominated as the QUEEN.

MARCOS is bleeding from the mouth, and from the face, even his CURE is abandoning him against 2 ZOAN, who are not even hybrids.
While MARCOS, uses his STRONGER form, which he used against AKAINU, used this form against OAKIJI, without the hybrid of his claws, against KIZARU, in part, this form that he used to attack the character AKAINU, and BIG MOM's ship ( pirate ship), already his hybrid form, he is exchanging human limbs like his feet, for a phoenix claw, which by definition is a human + phoenix hybrid, the same with its wings, which thanks to them, he gains skill to fly in human form, so it's a hybrid.

In fact, LARCOS is strong, he didn't press QUEEN and KING for a hybrid and is bleeding from the mouth while remaining in direct defense in full defensive mode.

Does he think he will defeat KING and Queen without causing damage to them?:milaugh::milaugh:
LMAO.
Meanwhile, KING plays with the GOLD HEN HEN.:king:
You are really failing to get the message ...
PLOT is holding KING and Queen Hybrid, as well as SASAKI and WW and even JACK.
When KING pulls his sword in hybrid mode, he will fry it.
KING is not even using his native style of fighting with sword + kicks.
KING is a samurai just like SASAKI, they are abandoning their main fighting style by plot,
sasaki hybrid + sword, hybrid king + sword, hybrid WW + sword.


For people who are strongly failing to understand the basics, I recommend you read it, there is incompatibility with the ZOANS modes of KING and QUEEN, they cannot enjoy their true combat styles, which is with a sword in hand, Hybrid KING + Your sword, as well as Sasaki, and WW, Queen in the same way as she used a getaway to take down X-DRAKE.
King and Queen are playing with LARCOS and injuring him in ZOAN mode.:milaugh::milaugh::king::king:
 
Zoro has more reasons to be on the roof than Kidd and Killer.

From story perspective. You know how Oda writes his story and how much he rates feeling and trust of other people put on someone's back.

Kidd and Killer are just here because they are novas who got their asses handed to them because of Kaido.

In case this ranking looks like this:

1. Luffy/Zoro
2. Kidd/Killer.
3. Law.
dumbest thing I read all week. Kidd lost his whole crew. Had his right hand be tortured. Was tortured himself. Was betrayed. Killer forced to eat devil fruit.

seriously how the hell does zoro have more of a reason to be there?
 
For people who are strongly failing to understand the basics, I recommend you read it, there is incompatibility with the ZOANS modes of KING and QUEEN, they cannot enjoy their true combat styles, which is with a sword in hand, Hybrid KING + Your sword, as well as Sasaki, and WW, Queen in the same way as she used a getaway to take down X-DRAKE.
King and Queen are playing with LARCOS and injuring him in ZOAN mode.:milaugh::milaugh::king::king:
This proves how they are incompetent and have a big mouth, use their hybrid forms, finish Marco go kill scabbards instead use their dogshit zoan forms to fuck around.
 
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