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Imo its BM who has the strongest crew, hence why she was labeled as having the world strongest family and 95% or so is her crew.
BB crew resistived wb, garp and sengoku attacks two years ago. They was reconize for dangerous pirates and shiryu had the same level than maguellan (at least yc2-3).
Now they have increased their level a lot of (fight between bb crew and marco have happened, recently). So it's easy than their level were surparesed the another crew unless shanks crew
 
Cactusbois don't want Sanji to fight King because their agenda that Zoro is the same strength as first commander level will go down the drain. They know that ZKK is not happening and the one who will defeat Kaido is Luffy, they are afraid that Zoro at the end will just be a support character like Law and Nami when Luffy fought Doffy and Cracker. They don't care about Marco nor do they care about the story progression.
Are you dumb? Zoro haters keep trying to push Zoro vs King. If you were right about our “agenda”, we’d agree with that. But Zoro already showed feats past YC1 and battling King now would be lame.

The reason none of us believe Sanji vs King is because Sanji is weak and has zero feats. Nothing to do with an agenda.
 
Are you dumb? Zoro haters keep trying to push Zoro vs King. If you were right about our “agenda”, we’d agree with that. But Zoro already showed feats past YC1 and battling King now would be lame.

The reason none of us believe Sanji vs King is because Sanji is weak and has zero feats. Nothing to do with an agenda.
With people I interacted, you guys are pushing agenda especially thinking he couldn't beat fodder like 'Blacktooth' when that soon turn out to embarrassing when he soon got shown defeated later.

Sanji facing YC is going to happen and he is strong on his own. Makes me wonder what was everyone thoughts when Enies Lobby happen in similar situation to this. Zoro is YC lvl still, he is not above that as team fights =/= solo fight at all.
 
With people I interacted, you guys are pushing agenda especially thinking he couldn't beat fodder like 'Blacktooth' when that soon turn out to embarrassing when he soon got shown defeated later.

Sanji facing YC is going to happen and he is strong on his own. Makes me wonder what was everyone thoughts when Enies Lobby happen in similar situation to this. Zoro is YC lvl still, he is not above that as team fights =/= solo fight at all.
Are you pretending that Sanji fans weren't making fun of Zoro for being bruised against dozens of Gifters ?
 
Im honestly most excited for the colourspread. With the amount of focus Oda gives Sanji in colourspreads, I wouldnt be suprised if Sanji gets nice positioning or importance in this one.
 
I always stood behind Zoro v King vecause of themes and patterns, which i value more than chapter by chapter circumstances, as well as my desire to see Oda properly map Zoro's path towards becoming the strongest Swordsman.

In terms of patterns, Zoro fights the strongest subordinate of the arc boss, which is a swordman, aka King.

In terms of themes, King is the badass archetype which fits for a Zoro opponent, as well as having Fire powers be defining for his character's strength/fame in an arc where Zoro just learned how to cut fire, after significant build up towards wishing to do so in Wano.

And then there's Zoro's road towards becoming the strongest Swordsman. We're nearing the final New Word arc and us reaching Raftel, and the only "Swordsman" of note Zoro has defeated in the New World is Pica.

We're standing in the country of Samurai, famed for their swordsmen. A country that gave Zoro Shisui, now Enma, and will likely give him a new Kitetsu sword. In this country of famed swordsmen, we're really not going to have Zoro defeat a single one in 1 vs 1 combat ??

That's just shitty. I'm personally not satisfied with this at all. You can have Zoro throw away his swords and 1 vs 1 punch Kaido to death, and it's still shitty to not have him get a 1 vs 1 fight against a Swordsman in Wano.

We're really going to reach Raftel and when looking back we will see the big statue guy as the only "Swordsman of note" Zoro managed to defeat. And i'm having such a hard time even qualifying Pica as a swordsman figh for Zoro.

Kaido has a strongest swordsman under him that fits in every single aspect to be Zoro's opponent. The only problem is getting them to face each other, because right now they are not at all on a straight track towards that.

And that's all on what Oda does next. But it's important to keep in mind that Oda does make abrupt changes to what appears to be a straightforward ride, and often doesn't require much direct build up for a particular fight to happen. He just shuffels things and creates events that alter what appears to be a straight course, and lead into less than expected outcomes.
It seems to me that Oda think that Zoro’s growth to become the WSS does not need him to fight every swordsman in his road. Which is why he did not have extrem-diff/hard diff against a swordsman since the return of the time skip.

It seems that Zoro’s growth is compose of 3 axes:

-Develloping his Haki which we can see with him mastering Enma
-Develloping his physical strength which is shown by him having bigger and bigger AoE
-Zoro being able to cut more and more thing which we saw with him mastering the Kinetsubi ryu technic

Sadly, King will not help Zoro in any of those departments:kayneshrug:
 
Are you pretending that Sanji fans weren't making fun of Zoro for being bruised against dozens of Gifters ?
I just came in and from what I seen in recent chapters, more 'Zoro-Fans' on offensive while Sanji-Fans on defensive. I haven't seen anything about them going hard compare to that side. If they did that, then shouldn't have to begin with. We all know Zoro and Sanji can easily defeat fodders, but don't fight fire with fire otherwise it make you look bad by supporting 'Black Tooth' and now have eat your words.

I am neutral on this and like both sides, but don't believe in BS stuff being push here. Why can't we just be happy on liking both instead of constant war between both sides?
 
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