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It's not even about overshadowing Luffy.

I'm not even discussing this from power level perspective, or wanting to keep Zoro in check.

I think Zoro should both fight King, and open Kaido's scar and giving Luffy the biggest helping hand with that in defeating Kaido.

I want to get the swordsman fight, and the feat that puts Zoro on the path of surpassing Oden.
No need Zoro wont just open kaidos scar, He will do most damage and prove that hes one of the top super novas on the roof top ( he already is ) in a direct comparison.
Swordman feats and fights? He had many and he will have many more till the end of the series, No need to rush that. Right now focus on kaido and big mom.
 
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Careful, I've gone down this road with them before. Apparently we aren't "true" Zoro fans because we want logical swordsman growth for the character.
You still here with ur clown takes?

It's time to move on. Dude Zoro went to fight Yonko. He should've fight a proper swordsman but it is what it is. Zoro moved to another level.

On his way to Mihawk, he will dunk on Shiryu and Kizaru. Enough.

Now you have woken up on Wano because it's the land of the samurai. I wonder if you cried enough when Zoro wasn't fighting proper swordsmen before Wano.
 
Bruh, no. Stop get the help if you actually believe Zoro over Luffy. Luffy vs Kaido is set thing as much legends behind Luffy compare to a guy there due to Enma with having it's own mind judging how Kaido look at them differently by far.
You need to start reading one piece because Zoro was connected to wano and kaido before luffy, In thriller park when he fought ryuma. Nice try though.
 
It's not even about overshadowing Luffy.

I'm not even discussing this from power level perspective, or wanting to keep Zoro in check.

I think Zoro should both fight King, and open Kaido's scar and giving Luffy the biggest helping hand with that in defeating Kaido.

I want to get the swordsman fight, and the feat that puts Zoro on the path of surpassing Oden.
I can agree on that, but think Zoro vs Queen is more to happen given King isn't only one to fight with weapons after all. Plus hard to see how King won't fly around when he is having sky fights with Macro, so feels like a nerf by doing that then full power fight. Feel Sanji vs King on that, but I can respect you on either stance about it.

Also yeah Zoro is support for Luffy and it's more destined on Luffy vs Kaido being set there. Idk about opening scar as Oda doesn't want feats of beating Kaido to be taken from Luffy and probably do something about Kaido still can fight on full capacity just same like Doffy after his fights.
 
Tbh though it goes both ways, a vicious cycle... Zoro fans say something to piss off Sanji Fans and vice versa.
Of course it goes either way, but you can't ignore the fact that Sanji has been treated by Oda in a very particular way. He is not the typical battle shonen character. He cooked a massive cake, he cried a bunch of times , he has thousands of gag moments and his fighting moments were really cool, and sometimes really impressive, but a lot of times he has been used as a hype tool.

And Zoro fans are a lot.

They are more than us, way noisier and have many more occasions to grasp to mock Sanji or his fans.
It's not the same thing.
 
It doesn't matter now. Oda won't push Zoro back from the roof just to satisfy some Sanji boys malice about Zoro not fighting Kaido when Luffy, Kidd, and Law do. Z
How the fuck is this about "Sanji boys malice" when for the biggest part of Wano i was arguing against Sanji fans, and alongside Zoro fans, about Zoro fighting King and not Sanji ??

Holy fuck, you can't detach yourself from this can you ?

Some of you are just stuck in this Z vs S thing so much you simply can't make it so that it does not plague everything about your activity on this forum :whitepress:
 
You need to start reading one piece because Zoro was connected to wano and kaido before luffy, In thriller park when he fought ryuma. Nice try though.
Just because he has a role here, doesn't mean he defeat main antagonist over MC especially he hasn't shown anything to push he can beat Kaido in solo fight to begin with. 5 vs 1 doesn't help that and Enma isn't enough for that either.
 
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Formerly Seth

How the fuck is this about "Sanji boys malice" when for the biggest part of Wano i was arguing against Sanji fans, and alongside Zoro fans, about Zoro fighting King and not Sanji ??

Holy fuck, you can't detach yourself from this can you ?

Some of you are just stuck in this Z vs S thing so much you simply can't make it so that it does not plague everything about your activity on this forum :whitepress:
You are a Sanji fan mate. You kept dunkin on Zoro and suddenly switched to King vs Zoro.

Even @Jackteo said u are different from ur takes on King.


You got completely debunked here son.

Move on.

Zoro vs King might be in ur wet fanfic. No one cares. It ain't happening.

Zoro has enough swordsman on his way he can take on.
 
Its simple: Zoro fighting the bigger fish in the food chain, Automatically puts him above everyone beneath that fish. Its like saying why hes fighting a shark he needs to go through all types of weaker fish before. No need though, Zoros feats on roof top will top everything that he could have done on the groundlevel, By doing massive damage against kaido and big mom the top of the food chain.

Thats how we are very satisficed .
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That's such a shallow way to look at things. How do i care so much more about Zoro's character than most of his declared fanboys :josad:
 
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That's such a shallow way to look at things. How do i care so much more about Zoro's character than most of his declared fanboys :josad:
You don't care. You just act like u care about Zoro because you were dunked on in that one thread when u try to shit on Zoro.

You were put up against the wall and didn't know what to do so you switched to talking about Zoro.
 
If so, I can understand and would have defend as well. Though making same attempt now makes you guys look bad especially what happen to the 'blacktooth' guy later while Zoro didn't beat 'Beetle Gifter'. Now court is back on Zoro on his 'unfinished' fight. Just saying don't do same as someone else unless your ready for flag back if it goes back on you.

I mean Sanji vs YC is definite at this point and trying to downplay or think it won't happen is going to hurt you again just like I now seeing arguments about Zoro over Luffy and he will 'solo Kaido' when that is headcannon for miles than being a fact. You got call out your own then being hypocritical aiming just one side. You remove ground on your stance if you don't :kayneshrug:.
I said more than once that i dont think ZKK will happen, and that it is Luffy>Zoro.

Dont try to put that on us, the ones who started saying one character was bleeding against gifters and having a hard time was Sanjifans, we just shoved the garbage they said in their own faces when blacktooth made Sanji actualy bleed. The ones who kept saying "Zoro will fight injured jack in the roof" where also Sanjifans, but look how hard the tables have turned....You reap what you sow.
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Of course it goes either way, but you can't ignore the fact that Sanji has been treated by Oda in a very particular way. He is not the typical battle shonen character. He cooked a massive cake, he cried a bunch of times , he has thousands of gag moments and his fighting moments were really cool, and sometimes really impressive, but a lot of times he has been used as a hype tool.

And Zoro fans are a lot.

They are more than us, way noisier and have many more occasions to grasp to mock Sanji or his fans.
It's not the same thing.
Honestly I wouldn't say that especially those as 'critic' as Zoro side hasn't been met favorably either especially this arc he is now hype tool overall. Though do see issue on Zoro-side more than Sanji-side given there need to be more control when come to these toxic talks.
 
i defo can see Oda using Yamato-Momo gags for Sanji.
Yamato will fight Jack
and Momo will running together with Sanji
If some speculations are right here Perospero can be the game changer soon, with leading to Marco getting defeated by King+Queen and Perospero. In that case we would have three characters free to fighting someone. Perospero would be free, Queen would be free and also King, I think their are far more opponents for Sanji(My bet is still Queen).

In that case:
Injuried Marco vs King?(The only fight with I still not know how to feel it, we going see where Oda is going on with King)
Sanji vs Queen(Drake most like join Sanji against Queen).
Yamato vs Jack
 
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