How do i care so much more about Zoro's character than most of his declared fanboys 
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You don’t. You just want him to fight a YC so you can pretend him and Sanji are on the same level which is why you’ve been pushing the whole “he's there to support Luffy as a first mate” nonsense when he explicitly said he wants to cut down Kaido.
I’m not happy with Zoro not having a 1v1 fight against a swordsman in Wano. But me being happy or not is totally irrelevant to Oda’s choice concerning the character progression.
I did not go to the extrem, my sentence was not supposed to be taken literally but to explain that apparently Oda does not feel the need for Zoro fights every swordsman he met to make him grow.
Who Zoro have fought in Wano before reaching the roof?
-Orochi’s goons
-Hawkins
-Ninjas
-Apoo
-Killer
-Gifters
He has a skirmish with Denjiro but he did not go deeper than that because Denjiro turns out to be an ally. Oda could have make Zoro fights all the strong swordsmen he introduced us n the arc but he did not. He did not even show Zoro showing any interest into fighting them. Therefore it seems to me that what Oda is doing with Zoro is different from what we thought he would do.
You think it is arrogant because you think I’m talking powerscalling wise when I’m not.
King does not offer anything to Zoro in the 3 axes I talked about previously that the fight with the two yonko did not already give (in a better way). Heck, fighting Big Mom could allows him to learn how to cut lightning.
He does not offer anything to Zoro character wise either. And with Oda emphasized the « New gen vs Old gen », I do not see how Zoro fighting King can fit in this narrative. Especially after all the effort Marco put to allow Zoro to reach the roof.
I was a big defender of Zoro vs King but I do not see the point to be stubborn about it. It seems to me that it is not what Oda is aiming for.
I did not go to the extrem, my sentence was not supposed to be taken literally but to explain that apparently Oda does not feel the need for Zoro fights every swordsman he met to make him grow.
Who Zoro have fought in Wano before reaching the roof?
-Orochi’s goons
-Hawkins
-Ninjas
-Apoo
-Killer
-Gifters
He has a skirmish with Denjiro but he did not go deeper than that because Denjiro turns out to be an ally. Oda could have make Zoro fights all the strong swordsmen he introduced us n the arc but he did not. He did not even show Zoro showing any interest into fighting them. Therefore it seems to me that what Oda is doing with Zoro is different from what we thought he would do.
You think it is arrogant because you think I’m talking powerscalling wise when I’m not.
King does not offer anything to Zoro in the 3 axes I talked about previously that the fight with the two yonko did not already give (in a better way). Heck, fighting Big Mom could allows him to learn how to cut lightning.
He does not offer anything to Zoro character wise either. And with Oda emphasized the « New gen vs Old gen », I do not see how Zoro fighting King can fit in this narrative. Especially after all the effort Marco put to allow Zoro to reach the roof.
I was a big defender of Zoro vs King but I do not see the point to be stubborn about it. It seems to me that it is not what Oda is aiming for.
"When Kaidou appeared for the first time, I said that Luffy can't defeat such a strong character yet. And I'm yet to know how Luffy would defeat Kaidou. Probably my audience will not be satisfied if the reason for defeating Kaidou is just because Luffy's punch is so strong. Luffy and I have to find a solution somehow."
So what happens if Luffy and the author don't manage to find this solution?
I tell you, Zoro and the author shall manage to find it.
So what happens if Luffy and the author don't manage to find this solution?
I tell you, Zoro and the author shall manage to find it.
It's not exactly equal but the spitballing takes place on both sides, taking place on two Large Forums at least, OJ and Worst Gen.
It's enough to become a meme onto itself.
But you answered yourself, Zoro and Sanji haven't been "treated" or have acted in the similar manners... Sanji has cried, Baked a Cake for their Enemy (Something that has already happened before with the Baratie Arc and the Krieg Pirates), while Zoro does tend to get lost and fuck up a few times, the divide on those things are not equal.
Sanji has gotten the worst of it for some reason, And we do notice it, but as readers, wtf are we supposed to do?
It's enough to become a meme onto itself.
But you answered yourself, Zoro and Sanji haven't been "treated" or have acted in the similar manners... Sanji has cried, Baked a Cake for their Enemy (Something that has already happened before with the Baratie Arc and the Krieg Pirates), while Zoro does tend to get lost and fuck up a few times, the divide on those things are not equal.
Sanji has gotten the worst of it for some reason, And we do notice it, but as readers, wtf are we supposed to do?
are you okay in the head? where did i mention that Zoro was the first one in the story to have a connection with kaido? All i said is that Zoro was connected to wano before luffy
Stop with the head canon, All i did is refute your claim that zoro only on roof top because of Enma. And i disproved that by stating that he had connection to wano and kaido even before luffy which makes him more rightful to be there.
But yes to answer the question Zoro will do more than luffy in this fight and all the overshadowing since thriller park are pointing to this.
Stop with the head canon, All i did is refute your claim that zoro only on roof top because of Enma. And i disproved that by stating that he had connection to wano and kaido even before luffy which makes him more rightful to be there.
But yes to answer the question Zoro will do more than luffy in this fight and all the overshadowing since thriller park are pointing to this.
Oh I totally agree. But apparently even remotely removing Zoro from the Kaido fight (so Luffy can have his 1v1 moments) is an improbable, almost inconceivable thing to these people.
Thats actually what I want (and partially expect to happen).
- I expect the roof fight to end, the Supernovas "lose" (temporarily/Onigashima crashing/whatever, doesnt matter). Maybe Zoro injured Kaido signficantly, maybe it happens later, who knows. It'd be like how Law hurt Doflamingo before getting removed from the fight.
- I expect Perospero to create a new problem for Marco, thus either causing him to lose or shift the fight so King/Queen pursue other avenues of this fight (i.e. Zoro and Sanji, because its customary).
- Zoro, injured or not, fights King, and wins.
- Luffy gets his 1v1 fight (sans the other Supernova. Idk)
- Luffy wins either with help or not. Zoro comes back in and gets his Ryuuma moment.
This is actually would I would hope happens. Its highly dependent on how the rooftop goes, but im entirely hopeful because none of the calamities have even received a matchup or focus this entire raid yet, and I definitely don't count Marco because he's clearly there to stall for other reasons.
But again, we'll see. If Zoro is meant to stick with Luffy until the end and not get a swordsman battle, then so be it and that would be Odas choice.
Thats actually what I want (and partially expect to happen).
- I expect the roof fight to end, the Supernovas "lose" (temporarily/Onigashima crashing/whatever, doesnt matter). Maybe Zoro injured Kaido signficantly, maybe it happens later, who knows. It'd be like how Law hurt Doflamingo before getting removed from the fight.
- I expect Perospero to create a new problem for Marco, thus either causing him to lose or shift the fight so King/Queen pursue other avenues of this fight (i.e. Zoro and Sanji, because its customary).
- Zoro, injured or not, fights King, and wins.
- Luffy gets his 1v1 fight (sans the other Supernova. Idk)
- Luffy wins either with help or not. Zoro comes back in and gets his Ryuuma moment.
This is actually would I would hope happens. Its highly dependent on how the rooftop goes, but im entirely hopeful because none of the calamities have even received a matchup or focus this entire raid yet, and I definitely don't count Marco because he's clearly there to stall for other reasons.
But again, we'll see. If Zoro is meant to stick with Luffy until the end and not get a swordsman battle, then so be it and that would be Odas choice.
I said more than once that i dont think ZKK will happen, and that it is Luffy>Zoro.
Dont try to put that on us, the ones who started saying one character was bleeding against gifters and having a hard time was Sanjifans, we just shoved the garbage they said in their own faces. The ones who kept saying "Zoro will fight injured kaido in the roof" where also Sanjifans, but look how hard the tables have turned....You reap what you sow.
Dont try to put that on us, the ones who started saying one character was bleeding against gifters and having a hard time was Sanjifans, we just shoved the garbage they said in their own faces. The ones who kept saying "Zoro will fight injured kaido in the roof" where also Sanjifans, but look how hard the tables have turned....You reap what you sow.
Well your in position now and you can stop this if you stop with react talks from your side. If you can tell them to tone it down, then we can avoid more on this continuing as it takes both to create this situation, so both need to tone on both sides, not keep it going when one wasn't trying to start it.
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@Paperchampion23 btw luffy had a 1v1 with kaido after big mom hit zoro and others
what he did? run out of g4 mf ain t lasting shit without others
what he did? run out of g4 mf ain t lasting shit without others
That's such a shallow way to look at things. How do i care so much more about Zoro's character than most of his declared fanboys
Proving my point.
You just can't conceive that i'm not like you to the point you need o make up shit.
I've always supported Zoro vs King and not a single time said Sanji would fight King in Zoro's place.
No shit some Sanji fans never liked me not being on board with Sanji vs King and not arguing on that front alongside them.
This post is so bad faith it's no point further engaging with you in any discussion. Don't waste your time quoting me, as i'm not going to reply.
You just can't conceive that i'm not like you to the point you need o make up shit.
I've always supported Zoro vs King and not a single time said Sanji would fight King in Zoro's place.
No shit some Sanji fans never liked me not being on board with Sanji vs King and not arguing on that front alongside them.
This post is so bad faith it's no point further engaging with you in any discussion. Don't waste your time quoting me, as i'm not going to reply.
the pics drawing by 106.101 is vague for me, its like Marco will doing something with his DF which is maybe he will make a healing AoE which is used so many Stamina and then Marco will be "out" for a while.
so Oda using Hyougoro to forced Marco to do that "healing AoE" or something like that.
for the match up, i think
Injured Marco/Sanji vs King
Sanji/X-Drake vs Queen
Yamato vs Jack
but with Perospero come to the match up poll, i only see Marco/Sanji vs Perospero.
so Oda using Hyougoro to forced Marco to do that "healing AoE" or something like that.
for the match up, i think
Injured Marco/Sanji vs King
Sanji/X-Drake vs Queen
Yamato vs Jack
but with Perospero come to the match up poll, i only see Marco/Sanji vs Perospero.
u dream about zoro vs king
Not headcannon to say Luffy over Zoro, bruh. He seems to be as Kaido keeps mentioning Enma and Oden's spirit inside of it. Not same portrayal to guy with many Pirate Legends on how far his 'ceiling' will go even his former Captain Xebec was behind him. Nothing is same on Zoro side at all your forcing about.
Nah he won't, bruh. Luffy will be one to have major spotlight. He can get his shine, but not over Luffy at all.
Nah he won't, bruh. Luffy will be one to have major spotlight. He can get his shine, but not over Luffy at all.
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