I am pretty sure Sengoku was weaker than C3 at MF and I am also pretty sure the C3 surpasssed him or rather he has gotten weaker than them way before the MF war. He still had command over the C3 despite being weaker than them. He'd still remain the FA if the war of them best didn't happen. It was never said nor implied anywhere in any shape or form that FA candidate must be the strongest of the admirals. In fact, The first person to be nominated as Sengoku's successor was the one who was implied to be the weakest of the C3. Sengoku nominated Aokiji as his successor without thinking twice about which of the 3 is the strongest. Kong left FA position because he was promoted not because Sengoku surpassed him. Even today the same old-ass Kong has command over Akainu and his underlings despite him being weaker than most of them.
Now reread me again you forgot something:.
When you grow weaker you step aside
That's what Sengoku did... he couldn't lead anymore
MF was the end of Sengoku WB Garp era...
Both Zoro and Sanji are Overrated in my Book by people who Overrated their abilities compared to yonko commander tier lvl characters when in reality the best they did is beat some mid tiers
I believe Mihawk is more Underrated than Overrated because Mihawk is a top tier, yet some people try to Underrated him by placing him as yonko commander tier. Top tiers are capable of giving each other extrême diff fight, when yonko commanders are for the most part low diff opponents, except few exceptionsI
So i value whoever win in a top tier battle less significant than underrating a top tier character to a lvl he doesn't belong to
I find Garp Overrated because most of hype not only come from government propaganda, but also against people who were far from their prime. He is placed on a pedestal he doesn't belong imo(Primebeard/Roger tier) when it's been implied multiple times in the manga that they were ahead of him in their prime
How is Mihawk underrated ?
You have zero feats no way where Mihawk has even shown top tier status vs High tiers.
Top tiers arent capable of giving each other extreme diff fight .. only those who are near equals
As I remember no warlordbs equal to any Yonko, no walrprd is above admirals nor even equal to FA.
Portrayal and feats wise
You basically overrate Marco to be low top tier when his feats sucks... the man has bets feat as Apoo and pre ts Luffy
Even Jozu did better than him vs admiral.
Now reread me again you forgot something:.
When you grow weaker you step aside
That's what Sengoku did... he couldn't lead anymore
MF was the end of Sengoku WB Garp era...
Except that he didn't step-down as soon as he has gotten weaker. Even after losing strength to fight at admiral level he still kept on leading the marines until the war of the best which forced him to retire.
Both Zoro and Sanji are Overrated in my Book by people who Overrated their abilities compared to yonko commander tier lvl characters when in reality the best they did is beat some mid tiers
I believe Mihawk is more Underrated than Overrated because Mihawk is a top tier, yet some people try to Underrated him by placing him as yonko commander tier. Top tiers are capable of giving each other extrême diff fight, when yonko commanders are for the most part low diff opponents, except few exceptionsI
So i value whoever win in a top tier battle less significant than underrating a top tier character to a lvl he doesn't belong to
I find Garp Overrated because most of hype not only come from government propaganda, but also against people who were far from their prime. He is placed on a pedestal he doesn't belong imo(Primebeard/Roger tier) when it's been implied multiple times in the manga that they were ahead of him in their prime
I agree with Zoro, but Sanji though haven't been pushed to that degree like saying he can beat up Luffy who that he is stronger than Yonkos like Zoro fans push for Zoro. They put him more logical manner compare to them, so don't think you should treat them same way especially many been saying truth on Sanji that he will face an YC lvl opponent after easily beating an Yonko Veteran after all.
Ehhh...He might be more than YC lvl, but Mihawk got nothing to show if he can be stronger than Yonkos or Admirals in face-off especially on portrayal. Just because he is WSS, doesn't mean he is above many as Oda would give him more of that portrayal, but instead best person he clash with was Vista who wasn't even top 3 of YCs, so again it push more he is Overrated than Underrated since Oda hasn't been keen on pushing him to be more than he is that far.
Well true, but still Garp did fight them off with Roger and doubt it was all Roger and his crew who did most of the work as they need Garp helps as well especially it shows that Roger even trust him enough with his own son to take care off, so wouldn't say he is Overrated as before all this, many Underrate him on how he was before, so feel it's honest he is place at that lvl more especially it even stated him and Roger tried to kill each other many times. Oda wouldn't put that if Roger wasn't at that lvl to compete with Roger.
"Whether you said it or not. You can't denied your fanbase think Zoro could beat Luffy with or without G4 easily and try to excuse Zoro was stronger than him post-timeskip when he never was at all."
This is bullshit and I don't agree with this. I have nothing to do with this and I'm not responsible for the fan base, I'm responsible for what Isay, not for what people say.
"Only saw Sanji dodging point-blank range if Enma and striking him into a fight. If he can do that at Base without trying. Sanji serious would be extreme fight between the two either way. Oda still put their rivalry and equal status one and the same each time."
You saw Sanji dodging only in your headcanon, it didn't happen. PLUS, to assume that you also have to assume Zoro intended to kill Sanji, and this is NOT THE CASE, Zoro wouldn't kill Sanji, it's ridiculous to assume something like this and trying to use this situation as a feat is even more than ridiculous.
You kinda do as you keep posting stuff like this as showing your just as bad as your fanbase on supporting Zoro to be stronger than many characters when he isn't given by portrayal especially his recent ones. You and certain Zoro-fans are just as responsible overall.
Nah, he was dodging like he was nothing. Not headcannons. You think Zoro cut the cliff for fun or taking his anger out on something? That make him a salty bitch in comparision lol XD. Oda confirms they take their arguments seriously so yeah he doesn't mind hurting Sanji if given the chance as shown. Oda's words are damn facts compare to others like you who listen more from the headcannons within your mind as you ignore Goda's brilliance .
Except that he didn't step-down as soon as he has gotten weaker. Even after losing strength to fight at admiral level he still kept on leading the marines until the war of the best which forced him to retire.
Shanks (and the Yonko in general but mainly this guy)
Enel (people claim his df alone puts him on admiral level)
Magellan (same reason as Enel)
Zoro (Apparently Luffy's equal/ even considered Luffy's "rival" by some/ returned from timeskip stronger than Luffy/ hasn't gone all-out since birth/ stopped by Fujitora from killing Doflamingo/ too fast for FS/ can tank any attack below boundman level/ allows for Luffy to be his captain out of pity, not because he acknowledges his superiority)
Marco (Allegedly can beat Kizaru)
Underrated:
Mihawk (gets shit on by 70% of the community including the Yonko fanbase, Admiral fanbase, Sanji fags, Law virgins and two piece readers. The main reasons for his downplay is people not wanting Zoro to become that strong, and others not wanting to accept the fact that Shanks isn't the strongest character)
Ben Beckman (This guy is absolutely a top tier and the second strongest FM next to prime Rayleigh)
Fujitora (The only admiral who apparently somehow isn't admiral level)
Admirals in general (not as disrespected as Issho but still being put on a tier lower than the Four jobberscough Emperors for some reason)
I am pretty sure Sengoku was weaker than C3 at MF and I am also pretty sure the C3 surpasssed him or rather he has gotten weaker than them way before the MF war. He still had command over the C3 despite being weaker than them. He'd still remain the FA if the war of them best didn't happen. It was never said nor implied anywhere in any shape or form that FA candidate must be the strongest of the admirals. In fact, The first person to be nominated as Sengoku's successor was the one who was implied to be the weakest of the C3. Sengoku nominated Aokiji as his successor without thinking twice about which of the 3 is the strongest. Kong left FA position because he was promoted not because Sengoku surpassed him. Even today the same old-ass Kong has command over Akainu and his underlings despite him being weaker than most of them.
You know why you can't see FA Sakazuki being a level above current set of admirals, it's because you use Sengoku as a benchmark for other fleet admirals. but both fleet admirals took the title in different circumstances. Sakazuki took it by his strength defeating the admiral Sengoku had chosen ( which is a news that shocked the world by the way ), Sengoku took it because Garp wasn't interested in promotions at all. if the latter was he would've definitely been the fleet admiral thanks to his God Valley incident reputation. and no, Garp doesn't need any "extraordinary" leading or insight talents to become a FA. as the requirements for being one fits even the dumbass Big Mom.
In the first part of the story, Oda made the marines stable, careful and less influencing on the new world. fitting their leader Sengoku's personality at the time with the warlords system active. second part of the story, Oda is intending to take the marines into offensive status with their leader Sakazuki being the one leading the upcoming charge. so the current FA is more of a front-lines general unlike Sengoku who was the FA of plans, tactics and such. that's what leads me to think the current hierarchy is FA > Admiral > VA etc.. and the three current admirals are individually weaker than the Yonko ( not by much ).
You're save to think otherwise, but trust me that's how Oda's going to portray them.
gets shit on by 70% of the community including the Yonko fanbase, Admiral fanbase, Sanji fags, Law virgins and two piece readers. The main reasons for his downplay is people not wanting Zoro to become that strong, and others not wanting to accept the fact that Shanks isn't the strongest character)
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