I also don't like Naruto as a story but that's not the point... I know that one piece fans In general hate Naruto (or nothing else to be honest) so I don't expect pepole to look at this with zero bias. Oda himself has stated that Yonkos were meant to be the main antagonist and he added Shichibukais as an additional step towards them. The Emperors/Yonko are Luffy's Mihawk, they are the main challenge for his dream, they are that enormous wall in front of him that he should cross. No matter how bad Naruto was, he at the very least fought against Sasuke by himself (I mean the MC). Luffy will not defeat his Sasuke/Mihawk, he can't achieve his own dream, 1000 chapters of him screaming "I'll be the pirate king" for nothing. And I know, I know... people are going to bring up Blackbeard saying "Luffy will defeat Blackbeard by himself" well, first of all we don't know if it's true. 5/6 years ago I was convinced that Luffy will defeat Blackbeard by himself but now I'm not that sure. Second, Blackbeard himself has never defeated an Emperor by himself, has yet to prove himself as one (just like Luffy), Blackbeard has been acknowledged as an Emperor after defeating Marco a YC1 (just like Luffy with Katakuri). Luffy vs Blackbeard will be a fight between new rising pirates who never defeated an Emperor by themselves and consequently, never achieved that level of strength.
Questions & Mysteries Is it the real Oden or is it a fake? And if it's a fake then who is it?
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What if the cell itself was made of sea stone? The sea stone only weakens the df users so giving Oden some handcuffs won't make a big difference but we know how hard sea stone is so making the cell with sea stone was a better idea. Or perhaps he was tired/wounded and he thought escaping in his state was pointless.
The Yonkos are ppl that must be taken out in order for someone to become the PK, he is probably going to be stronger than a Yonko by the end of one piece but going from getting one shoted to being able to 1v1 the same guy after a few weekd seems like a streetch to me. And in the case of Zoro and Mihawk is quite different because Mihawk is alr the WSS so Zoro needs to defeat him to earn said title but the Yonkos are just Yonkos. They aren't the PK. And regarding the Naruto vs Sasuke it would be like a Goku vs Vegeta in dragon ball. They are both in the main cast and thet are not villains.
Exactly, lol.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
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Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
Exactly, lol.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
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Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
yeah that vergo breaking his haki
Exactly, lol.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
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Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
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Exactly, lol.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
It doesn't matter how strong Luffy will be end of series, what matters is how Luffy achieved his dream.
Then the gap between Luffy and Emperors shouldn't have been this big. It was too early for Luffy to go against the Emperors.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
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Are sure about that?
The weapon itself is made out of seastone and Vergo broke it in half dispite the fact that it was covered in COA haki.
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Oh. Yeah I completely forgot about that. Ether way, the cell wasn't made out of seastone so it doesn't change anything.
First of all, the cell wasn't made out ofseastone. Second, Oden had his swords with him. Look at the bottom of the panel...
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First of all, the cell wasn't made out ofseastone. Second, Oden had his swords with him. Look at the bottom of the panel...
So, if a Pirate whiteout a crew killed Roger he still wouldn't be the PK?
Btw.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
Btw.
Ok, let me ask you this: if Roger was alive then Luffy would need to defeat him in order to be the PK, right? The answer is right! But Roger is dead and there are 4 powerful pirates who rival each other to become the next PK.
Now, let's say Mihawk suddenly died from sickness (just like Roger) and there were for powerful swordsmen who rivaled each other for the WSS title, and Zoro teamed up against other swordsmen to defeat 3 of those powerful swordsmen, and the later on he defeated a guy who also never defeated one of those powerful swordsmen by himself. So, would Zoro be the WSS in that case? The answer is yes but Zoro wouldn't earn the title, he would just be the last swordsmen who survived. Is that right?
Doesn't matter how Roger became the PK. Oda never allowed Current title holders to defeat someone to get that title. Mihawk didn't defeat Shanks but he's the WSS, Whitbeard didn't defeat Roger but he was the WSM etc. Also, if the journey to the raftel is enough to become the PK, then why didn't Rayleigh or anyone else from Roger's crew who had been to Raftel become the next PK?
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