General & Others Why does Oda give Mihawk such little hype?

#63
Literally the only thing Mihawk has is his stupid title, and even then, the only time we see him fight another swordsman besides Zoro it’s a stalemate lol.

Meanwhile Oda continues to give Shanks, the other Yonko, and the admirals godly portrayal and hype in comparison to Mihawk.

Hell, even Marco has much greater hype than Mihawk.

Not mention Mihawk’s about to get defeated by an Admiral and saved by Shanks lol.

Why does Oda treat Mihawk like this?
Which admiral got Mihawk level hype other than Akainu?
Mihawk has (1) title hype, (2) Zoro end goal hype, (3) WB's "legendary duel" hype, (4) Shanks rival hype, (5) SBS grouping with WB and Shanks hype, (6) black blade hype.

What hype Kizaru, Fuji or even Aokiji has in comparison?
 
#64
Which admiral got Mihawk level hype other than Akainu?
Mihawk has (1) title hype, (2) Zoro end goal hype, (3) WB's "legendary duel" hype, (4) Shanks rival hype, (5) SBS grouping with WB and Shanks hype, (6) black blade hype.

What hype Kizaru, Fuji or even Aokiji has in comparison?
Akainu hype is Admiral hype since he and Aokiji are basically equals. Which means all admirals are about on the same level
 
#67
Mihawks “great” hype

post poning his fight with vista

saying he won’t hold back and yet failing to kill pre timeskip luffy

getting his slash cut by jozu

ducking shanks

Amazing hype and portrayal


Mihawk fans need to understand that zoro hype doesn’t equal mihawk hype.

Oda can kill mihawk to shiryu for example. Then zoro would need to surpass shiryu. Hell if that happens that could mean zoro surpasses mihawk end of wano but has to surpass shiryu now.

that’s why this zoro hype equals mihawk hype nonsense shouldn’t be entertained
Cutting through a miles away iceberg clean, just with the aftermath of your casual swing?
Pulling out an air slash that looks like it's "20times" greater than Zoro's 1080 pound cannon?

And it could also be that Zoro masters Enma and by extension his max haki flow capabilities, gets a decent CoO Power up against Shiryu and only then fights Mihawk.
This argument can go both ways, mate.

For this thread:
Had legendary duels with Shanks, that shook the grandline, is the WSS, he has them black blades, he gets named in the same sentence as Shanks and Whitebeard and also got some great feats indicating this much.

Absolutely no need to doubt that man, whether you are a "swordboi" or not.
His all out feats will be insane, if Zoro already busts out that kinda stuff.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#68
Which admiral got Mihawk level hype other than Akainu?
Mihawk has (1) title hype, (2) Zoro end goal hype, (3) WB's "legendary duel" hype, (4) Shanks rival hype, (5) SBS grouping with WB and Shanks hype, (6) black blade hype.

What hype Kizaru, Fuji or even Aokiji has in comparison?
Won't advocate for Luigi. Low brass admiral but Aokiiji did went on 10 days battle with Akainu.

This cannot be overlooked in my opinion.

One of if not the best feat in the series.

Off-screen obviously cuz Oda.
 
#69
Blackbeard has half his teeth missing lol and if you want to still put him there, it's ok, doesn't change the point.
The SHs? really ? Any top tier SH without scars ? Any of them clashed regularely with Shanks ? What kind of ''argument'' is that man ?
You just said he’s the only without visible scars and that’s just dumb because a lot of characters don’t
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Akainu has Oda's quote, Akainu is the Fleet admiral, Akainu killed Ace & WB - hype as potential eos antagonist. You can't just give those to other admirals.
You can when Akainu was stated to be approximately equal with Aokiji
 
#70
You just said he’s the only without visible scars and that’s just dumb because a lot of characters don’t
We are talking about Top tiers or at least characters with a ''significant'' experience/past and you brought the SHs...two and a half years old pirates...why not Nojiko or Gaimon while we're at it.

Big Mom is a Yonko; which means she is a very high target for any pirate that wants to become a thing; which means she has COUNTLESS fights with very strong pirates from all around the world; no scar; hype

Mihawk is the WSS; which means he is n1 target for anyone who is a swordsman; which means he had COUNTLESS fights with very strong swordsmen from all around the world; no scar ; hype.

I hope it is clearer :)
 
#71
MF war did him dirty.

- Denied a chance to have a go at Whitebeard by Jozu, while all the Admirals were allowed to fight him at least for a bit
- Agreed on a stalemate with Vista while Aokiji defeated Jozu
- Shanks stops the whole war and Mihawk is the first to bail when he makes an appearance

Mr.1 getting in the way or him not cutting down Luffy should be disregarded since Oda took liberties with power levels, but beside this Mihawk was given a smaller piece of the cake than about any other Top Tier at Marineford.

We get these spreads for the Yonko





but when Mihawks tries to compare himself with Whitebeard, commanders get pushed in his way, and Oda doesn't even show him overwhelm said commanders in battle.

And there's no way Mihawk could not be shown to have a clear upper hand over Vista, Oda just handled it poorly in my opinion.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#72
The funny thing is that Mihawk couldn't beat Pre ts luffy

:milaugh:the only warlord and so called top tier to not beat Luffy pre ts
Excluding Hancock who fangirled Luffy
So Ndule senpai, by this logic do you believe that Mihawk is CP9 level? Or slightly stronger? Or what.

Let me understand please.

I think that perhaps you don't read or think what you type, it's more of a hand reflex. Unless you are acting disingenous in this one. It's too insane to believe.
 
#73
It's just a matter of how you look at the war and staying consistent in how you judge characters.

People bring up Mihawk's slash to Whitebeard getting blocked by Jozu but ignore Kizaru's beams towards Whitebeard getting blocked by Marco.
In addition, Kizaru gets attacked by Marco and gets sent flying (although he was undamaged), this doesn't happen with Mihawk.

People bring up Mihawk failing to do anything fatal when he cuts Luffy but ignore Kizaru on 2 occasions doing minimal damage to Luffy (his 2 kicks and the beam which pierces Luffy). In fact, Dalmatian (the Vice Admiral) draws more blood than Kizaru. It's the same thing with Aokiji, he gets a hit on Luffy which draws some blood, but not anything crazy.

People bring up Mihawk getting blocked by Vista and ending the duel in an equal position but ignore that Aokiji v Jozu was pretty much the same thing until Jozu got distracted by Whitebeard's heart attack which let Aokiji get the free hit on Jozu. People also fail to bring up Aokiji and Ace clashing equally with named attacks of their own (understandably, because of their Devil Fruits).

People bring up Mihawk momentarily getting stopped by Crocodile (Crocodile doesn't actually get a hit on Mihawk) but ignore the fact Crocodile does the same to Akainu and actually manages to cut his logia form (not his actual body) and stalls him as well.

Just based on the Marineford showings of Mihawk and the 3 admirals, Mihawk's attack power looked second only to Akainu.
I would rank it like this (best to worst): Akainu, Mihawk, Aokiji, Kizaru.

Defensively, Mihawk wasn't hit by a single opponent throughout the entire war. Kizaru got hit once but didn't get damaged, he evaded everything else. Aokiji was hit by Jozu, but with little consequences. Akainu couldn't be touched by the likes of Marco and Vista.
I would rank it like this (best to worst): Mihawk, Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji.

People fail to realise that the "bad portrayal" Mihawk received was also present for the Admirals. However, the admirals are for some reason free from criticism from most people.

I personally don't view it as bad portrayal.
Oda aimed to show us that the likes of Marco, Vista, Jozu, and Ace aren't push-overs against top tiers such as Mihawk, Kizaru, Akainu, and Aokiji. After all, they are the executives of the strongest pirate crew.
People also make the logical error of thinking that because Mihawk and Vista were equal for x amount of time, then an extended fight between the two would end as an equal match.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#78
when shanks lost his arm to lord of the coast, which luffy one shotted in chapter 1, i was so hyped for shanks
It's so hilarious really, since Mihawk is the actual WSS and Shanks is not.

Mihawk was portrayed to brush off Shanks as a challenge, imagine how Shanks would have felt hearing those words when Mihawk had visited him for the Luffy bounty, words he was most likely already aware of anyway.
 
#79
Mihawk rivalry with Shanks was before he lost his Arm, 11 years ago. And that Shanks was weak enough to get his arm Chopped by a Seaking. After that, Shanks grew a lot Stronger and became a Yonko 6 years ago.

So Mihawk rivalled with Shanks who grew massively Stronger over 5 years. The Strongest enemy Mihawk faced till date is Vista and he requested postponement from him. So Mihawk is at best YC level, that is stronger than Doffy.
 
#80
Mihawk rivalry with Shanks was before he lost his Arm, 11 years ago. And that Shanks was weak enough to get his arm Chopped by a Seaking. After that, Shanks grew a lot Stronger and became a Yonko 6 years ago.

So Mihawk rivalled with Shanks who grew massively Stronger over 5 years. The Strongest enemy Mihawk faced till date is Vista and he requested postponement from him. So Mihawk is at best YC level, that is stronger than Doffy.
Zoro's actual level is YC 2 or 1,5.So is false that Mihawk lvel is YC that would be a fraud.Zoro has to grown in order to pass him
 
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