Questions & Mysteries Straw Hat Vice Captain

[Blother Fertitta]

Next episode Adapts a part of Chapter 959. This is a chapter where Luffy and his Vice Captain, Roronoa "Roof Top" Zoro discuss off into the distance the whereabouts of Jinbei. Zoro assures Luffy that Jinbei will come back as a welcome addition to the crew.

Meanwhile sickle cell candy, told Jinbei to kill himself in FI, and argued with him about chaperoning Luffy in Onigashima. Probably due to the insecurity that he is being pushed further down the ladder by an experienced, prominent, and competent individuals.

 

[The girl splitter]

Zoro is considered vice-captain by manga characters (like Urouge and Bartolomeo) and databooks, acts as a vice-captain
and takes the lead when Luffy isn't around, and characters often mistake him for captain or wondered how he wasn't captain. Oda put in all that "he must be the captain/he is the First Mate" stuff about one character and one character only, and that's Zoro. He's done that for a reason. He is also the only non-captain of the Supernovas, the other is Killer who casually is a vice-captain. It doesn't take mystical science, Oda could not make Barto say that Zoro is the right hand man and the vice captain, but he did it. He could have left it ambiguous , so why would Oda give all these illusions if they weren't true? It would not make sense. Zoro was usually compared to the captain both in terms of strength or leadership. Zoro evolved in his character from initially aiming at killing whoever stepped over his dream of becoming WSS to taking charge in Luffy's absence and supporting him as well as the crew in decisive moments(when Usopp was treating Luffy wrongly, when it came down to take down to replace Luffy and taking his burden against Kuma and even recently in the flower capital when he was taking charge of everything in the hope of finishing Orochi) like a vice-captain does. Has this ever happened with Sanji or Nami? No. Are there really still people who still have doubts? All that is missing is that Oda hangs up a banner that says "I've been making it clear to you for years that Zoro is the vice-captain" But Oda doesn't have the freedom to say this because he knows the fandom is too divided, but both he and the characters know that Zoro is the vice-captain. Not to mention that Zoro has always been the one who most understood Luffy, the most loyal one (According to Oda, Zoro would kill one of his mates if Luffy ordered him to) and has ALWAYS been by his side since the beginning, the other candidates for a reason or for another they have always "left" Luffy even if for valid reasons, Zoro has always been there, to support his captain. Tell me, who else is better suited to this role than Zoro? As far as I'm concerned, excluding Zoro, Nami has more chance of being vice-captain than Sanji, but it's clear that she isn't. Bartolomeo isnt a Zoro fanboy primarily, he is a Luffy fanboy first then Sh fanboy afterwards. He fanboys on all of the SH, but who does he consider vice-captain? Zoro, nobody else. As Oda himself said "Luffy, Zoro and Nami are the heart of One Piece" No matter how many members enter, they will always be the most important pillars of the crew. Then I say it sincerely, I don't want to "offend" those who don't think like me, but I've always thought that Luffy considers Zoro a step higher than the others, they act like brothers / best friends more than anyone else. I don't know what other proof you need, really.
Oda then made it clear with parallels between Roger and Rayleigh and between Luffy-Zoro (for example the fact of the concept of hero)
This is the last vivrecard who stated his role : https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/9lorne/to_all_you_disbelievers_zoro_confirmed_2nd/&psig=AOvVaw2pdXFNg49Ydfd5oR-ZWvS0&ust=1616580023820000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCNCHoYKUxu8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAO
ps. Can't believe Jimbe is considered vice-captain more than Nami and Sanji....I mean, seriously? Have you ever seen a crew where the newcomer becomes vice-captain replacing the previous one?

 

[Jaguark101]

Usopp

 

[BleakAsh]

Usopp was the first candidate btw

 

[JyThony]

The SH are not an ordinary pirate crew, even by PK standards. Every SH has taken a leadership role over the others at some point in the story. They all have 100% trust in each other and will take the backseat when necessary.

The official leader is Luffy, and that's it. It's no coincidence the only in-universe character to acknowledge a Vice Captain role was a blind fanboy with no knowledge of the crew dynamic.

 

[DKI]

Nami with less votes than sanji AND EVEN THAN FUKING JINBEI

 

[Tai long]

No vice-captain, if there was a vice captain it would be stated and there would be no need for speculations .

 

[Finalbeta]

Usopp

In doubt never doubt.

 

[DKI]

Usopp

thats the captain

 

[Pantheos]

Official one: None.
Unofficial: Zoro.

Luffy just doesnt care about this kind of hierarchy, thats why he didnt put some into his crew. And since he is the only one to decide, there was no decision. But unofficial, obviously its Zoro.

 

[The girl splitter]

[QUOTE = "JyThony, post: 1227790, member: 5591"]
The SH are not an ordinary pirate crew, even by PK standards. Every SH has taken a leadership role over the others at some point in the story. They all have 100% trust in each other and will take the backseat when necessary.

The official leader is Luffy, and that's it. It's no coincidence the only in-universe character to acknowledge a Vice Captain role was a blind fanboy with no knowledge of the crew dynamic. [/ QUOTE]

This story that "SH is not a crew like the others, so they can't have hierarchies" no longer holds. EVERY crew needs someone to fill the role of vice-captain at least sometimes, as evidenced by the straw hats themselves, Zoro has held the role of vice-captain many times, always and only him, I even wrote a poem with a topic a little while ago

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[Sir Yasheen]

This story that "SH are not a crew like others, so they can't have hierarchies" no longer holds up. EVERY crew needs someone to fill the role of vice-captain at least sometimes, as evidenced by the straw hats themselves, Zoro many times has held the role of vice-captain, always and only him, I have also written a poem with a better argument a little while ago

Zoro isn’t the only one. Sanji has stood up as vice captain as well.

There isn’t an official hierarchy but it’s clear that the monster trio are all the leaders with Luffy at the top. Even in Sabaody when they were separating Luffy Zoro and Sanji decide that they should each go with a few of the other straw hats showcasing that these three are the leaders

 

[The girl splitter]

Zoro isn’t the only one. Sanji has stood up as vice captain as well.

There isn’t an official hierarchy but it’s clear that the monster trio are all the leaders with Luffy at the top. Even in Sabaody when they were separating Luffy Zoro and Sanji decide that they should each go with a few of the other straw hats showcasing that these three are the leaders

Sanji has never acted or done things that made me say "ah Sanji too as Zoro can be vice-captain" because in fact he is not. Then, the fact that all three split to protect the groups in Sabaody depends exclusively on the fact that they are the strongest with detachment from the others, but that's another matter, here we are talking about vice-captain. I think I already have argued enough above by saying that I don't just take strength into account for the role of vice-captain

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sanji has never acted or done things that made me say "ah Sanji too as Zoro can be vice-captain" because in fact he is not. Then, the fact that all three split to protect the groups in Sabaody depends exclusively on the fact that they are the strongest with detachment from the others, but that's another matter, here we are talking about vice-captain. I think I already have argued enough above by saying that I don't just take strength into account for the role of vice-captain

Sanji is the only one that has stepped in as captain of the crew in a state of emergency. Literally the job of a vice captain.

 

[The girl splitter]

Sanji is the only one that has stepped in as captain of the crew in a state of emergency. Literally the job of a vice captain.

When? tell me the chapters. If he did it was when Zoro wasn't there. Plus, to say that Sanji is the only one to have acted as vice-captain (when in fact that is Zoro) is really nonsense, sorry, because you cannot deny that Zoro is the one who most has acted as vice-captain several times, this is a fact

 

[Sir Yasheen]

When? tell me the chapters. If he did it was when Zoro wasn't there. Plus, to say that Sanji is the only one to have acted as vice-captain (when in fact that is Zoro) is really nonsense, sorry, because you cannot deny that Zoro is the one who most has acted as vice-captain several times, this is a fact

Name once Zoro has taken over as the crew. Like Sanji did departing dressrosa.

Zoro has also never taken charge of Sanji. The crew listens to both of them Zoro isn’t vice captain. Monster Trio is just the crews leader. Stop trying to give titles he doesn’t have.

 

[DKI]

only biased can deny zoro clearly being the unofficial vice....

 

[The girl splitter]

Name once Zoro has taken over as the crew. Like Sanji did departing dressrosa.

Zoro has also never taken charge of Sanji. The crew listens to both of them Zoro isn’t vice captain. Monster Trio is just the crews leader. Stop trying to give titles he doesn’t have.

So you're basing it on Sanji leading half the crew (where coincidentally there wasn't even Zoro) out of Dressrosa? This confirms what I told you earlier, which is that if Sanji took the "" "lead" "" he only did it when neither Zoro and Luffy were there. But now tell me a moment when Sanji took the lead in Zoro's presence, or when Zoro didn't take the lead when needed.

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Zoro has also never taken charge of Sanji. The crew listens to both of them Zoro isn’t vice captain. Monster Trio is just the crews leader. Stop trying to give titles he doesn’t have.

I saw a crew that when Zoro spoke in serious moments, listened in silence, for example to W7 on the question of Usopp, and to Zou on the question of Sanji, these are just two examples. And I've seen Zoro and Sanji taking care of each other in their own way (and I don't understand why peopòe lways have to turn them against when they're tied up) .

Anyway I've already argued about why I think Zoro is the VC, so I honestly don't know what else to say

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So you're basing it on Sanji leading half the crew (where coincidentally there wasn't even Zoro) out of Dressrosa? This confirms what I told you earlier, which is that if Sanji took the "" "lead" "" he only did it when neither Zoro and Luffy were there. But now tell me a moment when Sanji took the lead in Zoro's presence, or when Zoro didn't take the lead when needed.

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I don't know what manga you read, but I saw a crew that when Zoro spoke in serious moments, listened in silence, for example to W7 on the question of Usopp, and to Zou on the question of Sanji, these are just two examples. And I've seen Zoro and Sanji taking care of each other in their own way (and I don't understand why peopòe lways have to turn them against when they're tied up) .

And I told you Zoro has never taken the lead when Sanji wasn’t around. They are equal authority.

In water 7 there was a reason why when the crew disagreed with Zoro they ran to Sanji and once Sanji told them he was right they stopped arguing.

 

[The girl splitter]

No vice-captain, if there was a vice captain it would be stated and there would be no need for speculations .

Not so, Oda doesn't have this freedom because he knows the fandom is too divided especially between Zoro fans and Sanji fans, if he said it's Zoro, Sanji fans would think he downplayed their favorite character, and other things so. For this Oda inserts various clues in the manga (even too clear), and in the databooks Zoro is ranked as vice-captain