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look at you guys all swarming
first things first thats a quote from gyro
and second thing perhaps
and maybe not


havent seen queen or jozu or smoothie at their absolute best.
queen was already shitting his pants in front of big mom
jozu doubt he has the attack power zoro has or smoothie so?
smoothie was shiting her pants agianst retarded meme in wci to
meanwhile meme shitting her pants against zoro s attack :milaugh:
 
Never saw him do anything close to one of the most durable people in the series telling the other to look out.
you are reducing powerlevel to simply AP
with this logic
marco rn < zoro
clearly not the case

marco's regeneration
ability with fire
amongst other things makes him tougher opponent than zoro.
zoro isnt stalling/holding off either yonko in a solo fight
marco evidently can.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
you are reducing powerlevel to simply AP
with this logic
marco rn < zoro
clearly not the case

marco's regeneration
ability with fire
amongst other things makes him tougher opponent than zoro.
zoro isnt stalling/holding off either yonko in a solo fight
marco evidently can.
Because ap is one of if not the most important factors in a fight.
Its why kata lost to luffy despite hitting him over 100 times
It's why kaido one shot luffy.
And again after saying zoro was yc2 at best your only line of defence is Marco who teeters on the line of yc1/low top tier
 
queen was already shitting his pants in front of big mom
jozu doubt he has the attack power zoro has or smoothie so?
smoothie was shiting her pants agianst retarded meme in wci to
meanwhile meme shitting her pants against zoro s attack :milaugh:
"jozu doubt he has the attack power zoro has or smoothie so?"
probably not
and smoothie is useless.
I will wait until the end of the arc to pass up that chance with queen

poison regardless of whether you are up against a yonko or some fodder is equally lethal
attack power comes in different ways
not everyone has to slice up a cliff for you to understand how dangerous they are as fighters.
zoro currently
is still very much a high tier .
if he was a top tier currently
I see no reason why they would have these issues with three other people at their side.
 
"jozu doubt he has the attack power zoro has or smoothie so?"
probably not
and smoothie is useless.
I will wait until the end of the arc to pass up that chance with queen

poison regardless of whether you are up against a yonko or some fodder is equally lethal
attack power comes in different ways
not everyone has to slice up a cliff for you to understand how dangerous they are as fighters.
zoro currently
is still very much a high tier .
if he was a top tier currently
I see no reason why they would have these issues with three other people at their side.
what top tier u talking about mate? no one said zoro is top tier he s above yc2 easy
queen smoothie jozu getting bodied hard :milaugh:
smoothie s slash powered up by df smaller than dressrosa zoro 1080p
queen already shit his pants in front of zoro :cheers:
one attack is enough to bring those dudes down
 
Because ap is one of if not the most important factors in a fight.
Its why kata lost to luffy despite hitting him over 100 times
It's why kaido one shot luffy.
And again after saying zoro was yc2 at best your only line of defence is Marco who teeters on the line of yc1/low top tier
lmao
first things first

that was gyro;s quote which you guys jumped on without reading.


endurance
and ability to out last your opponent is equally important.

marco is evidently proof that "yc1's" can be stronger than other first commanders
and yc2's can also be stronger than other relative yc2's .
if you want to say zoro is yc1 big woop
hardly a difference to me
personal opinion is
he is amongst the top yonko commanders in strength .
evidently these yc1, yc2, yc3 levels are awfully specific and too inconsistent to actually hold weight as seen with marco dog walking king and queen at the same time despite one having the same yc1 status.
 
what top tier u talking about mate? no one said zoro is top tier he s above yc2 easy
queen smoothie jozu getting bodied hard :milaugh:
smoothie s slash powered up by df smaller than dressrosa zoro 1080p
queen already shit his pants in front of zoro :cheers:
one attack is enough to bring those dudes down
no high tier
is taking down a second commander
in one attack so um

"what top tier u talking about mate?"
I dont think you believe this
 
no high tier
is taking down a second commander
in one attack so um

"what top tier u talking about mate?"
I dont think you believe this
are u blind? u said if zoro was top tier and shit not me? :milaugh:

''
if he was a top tier currently
I see no reason why they would have these issues with three other people at their side. " ur words


one attack? u don t know zoro then the one shot king :cheers:
hyriu kaen ereases smoothie queen and jozu :few:
 
are u blind? u said if zoro was top tier and shit not me? :milaugh:

''
if he was a top tier currently
I see no reason why they would have these issues with three other people at their side. " ur words


one attack? u don t know zoro then the one shot king :cheers:
hyriu kaen ereases smoothie queen and jozu :few:
nope
no high tier one shots king. even folks that stated queen got two shot by big mom
the bloke was literally up 2 pages after.

its nothing short of a top tier feat
no I dont think it erases them
I think they get hurt greatly .

you have to also understand
while kaido is a durability freak
and acts like a sitting duck
these other characters
would be harder to hit. like shiryu(in the event he fights zoro) isnt going to have monstrous durability
but he certainly would have facilities that make that fight NOT A ONE SHOT. one being he is clearly a harder target to hit.
He could block some attacks , he could dodge or deflect others.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
The rooftop battle is looking fire to me. Oda merely needs to fix Big Mom's PIS and this is what it's allegedly happening either way.

I don't see an intrinsic specific problem for now. All looks magnificent enough to me, of course perfect is such a huge word to be spent.
 
What a dumb reply
I don’t need to have vast knowledge about writing to know oda is a shit writer
Just like how I don’t need to have a degree in music to know when someone is a shit singer



I have eyes and I have a mind and I have read much MUCH superior works to know that one piece (post time skip) is a hot garbage
Terrible pacing inconsistencies plot hole pis cis
Characters regression horrible power scaling etc......

And judging by the constant decrease in the manga sales I think alot of people agree with me
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GREAT POINT
Let’s take some of your takes and i will apply them to the so called « Golden age »

- «Pacing inconsistencies »: Enies Lobby has two entire volumes that are basically fillers, Skypeia one and a Half. Long long Ring island is an entire filler arc and all this space is dedicated to clowns like Foxy and Wanze while here 9 supernova, a Yonko army, Two Yonkos, Samurai and Marco are involved.

- « Horrible power scaling » : Sanji went from being overpowered by Blueno to beating Jabra (in TWO volumes ), all SH’s power-up came from nothing. Luffy went from fighting on par with Franky to fighting on par with Base Lucci.
During the final escape Five freaking Vice-Admirals were firing cannon balls instead of personally eviscerating the exausted Straw-Hats.
Should i even talk about Marineford?

PIS- By far the funniest one, some of the worst examples of PIS are pre TS: CP9, the greatest assassins under the wing of the government, instead of killing the SH’s straight on left Nami and Chopper ALIVE in a burning building. Thinking that the fire would kill them thus allowing them to escape, very very efficient. Should i talk about Kizaru NOT capturing five defeated supernova?
Already forgotten about Kizaru destroying the key of Luffy’s handcuffs instead of straight up killing Luffy?
And what about Akainu disappearing instead of finishing Whitebeard when he was on his knees,
coughing blood? Sengoku destroying the scaffold?

- Character regression - I see more a lack of development for some of them than a real regression. But One Piece really lacks on this department.


Therefore i don’t get the reason why Oda went from Great to Shitty writer other than « he didn’t satisfy my headcanon ».
 
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Let’s take some of your takes and i will apply them to the so called « Golden age »

- «Pacing inconsistencies »: Enies Lobby has two entire volumes that are basically fillers, Skypeia one and a Half. Long long Ring island is an entire filler arc and all this space is dedicated to clowns like Foxy and Wanze while here 9 supernova, a Yonko army, Two Yonkos, Samurai and Marco are involved.

- « Horrible power scaling » : Sanji went from being overpowered by Blueno to beating Jabra (in TWO volumes ), all SH’s power-up came from nothing. Luffy went from fighting on par with Franky to fighting on par with Base Lucci.
During the final escape Five freaking Vice-Admirals were firing cannon balls instead of personally eviscerating the exausted Straw-Hats.
Should i even talk about Marineford?

PIS- By far the funniest one, some of the worst examples of PIS are pre TS: CP9, the greatest assassins under the wing of the government, instead of killing the SH’s straight on left Nami and Chopper ALIVE in a burning building. Thinking that the fire would kill them thus allowing them to escape, very very efficient. Should i talk about Kizaru NOT capturing five defeated supernova?
Already forgotten about Kizaru destroying the key of Luffy’s handcuffs instead of straight up killing Luffy?
And what about Akainu disappearing instead of finishing Whitebeard when he was on his knees,
coughing blood? Sengoku destroying the scaffold?

- Character regression - I see more a lack of development for some of them than a real regression. But One Piece really lacks on this department.


Therefore i don’t get the reason why Oda went from Great to Shitty writer other than « he didn’t satisfy my headcanon ».
I have never said oda was a great writer
or that pre time skip was perfect

everything you said about the pretimeskip is absolutely right

pre time skip has the same problems that the post time skip had but to a lesser degree

For example you can’t tell me that enise lobby or skypia had a worse pace than dressrosa

Or sanji going from blueno to jabra is a bigger unrealistic jump than luffy getting one shotted in g4 by base kaido to taking multiple hits in base from hybrid kaido and still looking fine

The worst thing is the characters
oda created a great main cast pre time skip
Post time skip they either stayed the same so they saw no development (usopp luffy brook franky)
Or regressed they got worse (zoro sanji robin)
Zoro barely has any personality anymore
Sanji walking nosebleeds
Robin went from being unique and mysterious to pretty much a joke pulling stupid faces and being a fanservice


it’s not about satisfying headcanons or because my fav didn’t get to shine

Maybe it’s for some people
But for me I want to read a story that makes sense has consistency and progression

post time skip is shit
And again judging by the constant decrease in sales alot of people agree with me
 
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