General & Others One piece is a mediocre series
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Exactly like wtf
There’s no sense of danger since the beginning of the time skip , at least compared to the hype and build up it did received
The enemies are clowns
Luffy and the crew are still casually joking and having fun in a middle of war
No one dies
Well except pedro
But it wouldn’t surprise me if he popped up out of no where to say haha jk
Ok now you’re overdoing it
No matter what
One piece will never be below fairytail in quality
fairy tail is legit trash
There’s no sense of danger since the beginning of the time skip , at least compared to the hype and build up it did received
The enemies are clowns
Luffy and the crew are still casually joking and having fun in a middle of war
No one dies
Well except pedro
But it wouldn’t surprise me if he popped up out of no where to say haha jk
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Ok now you’re overdoing it
No matter what
One piece will never be below fairytail in quality
fairy tail is legit trash
We have to differentiate.
It's certainly no literature masterpiece like some confused fans want to talk it up to.
If we compare OP to other mangas of its genre (shonen), it's still clearly better than most. There are only a handful of shonen mangas, that are better imho (HxH, SnK) while only a few newcomers are on their way there (Jujutsu Kaisen).
OP has always been a manga, that thrives on its macro-story (bigger themes, worldbuilding, interconnectivity of the arcs etc.).
The micro-storytelling has always been bang average. The pacing is mediocre at best, there are a ton of PIS moments and plot conveniences and Oda uses the same formula for each arc:
1) Arrive at a new island.
2) Split up, have an adventure and meet the local heroes (most of the time a young female amongst them).
3) Learn about the problems of said locals.
4) Meet the villains.
5) Lose their first encounter in some kind of way.
6) Flashback about the history of the island/local hero.
7) Villain threatens to destroy everything (Bomb in Alabasta, Advent Of Thunder in Skypiea, Buster Call on EL, Noah in FI, Shinokuni on PH, Birdcage on DR etc.)
8) SHs go into round two against the villains (main fights) and win, saving everyone in the process.
9) Banquet and celebration of everyone on the island.
10) Sailing to the next island.
I mean you CAN do that, but on a micro-storytelling-level it's just as unimaginative and repetitive as it gets.
Still, due to the amazing macro-story, OP is a solid to good shonen. Just not a masterpiece in terms of writing.
It's certainly no literature masterpiece like some confused fans want to talk it up to.
If we compare OP to other mangas of its genre (shonen), it's still clearly better than most. There are only a handful of shonen mangas, that are better imho (HxH, SnK) while only a few newcomers are on their way there (Jujutsu Kaisen).
OP has always been a manga, that thrives on its macro-story (bigger themes, worldbuilding, interconnectivity of the arcs etc.).
The micro-storytelling has always been bang average. The pacing is mediocre at best, there are a ton of PIS moments and plot conveniences and Oda uses the same formula for each arc:
1) Arrive at a new island.
2) Split up, have an adventure and meet the local heroes (most of the time a young female amongst them).
3) Learn about the problems of said locals.
4) Meet the villains.
5) Lose their first encounter in some kind of way.
6) Flashback about the history of the island/local hero.
7) Villain threatens to destroy everything (Bomb in Alabasta, Advent Of Thunder in Skypiea, Buster Call on EL, Noah in FI, Shinokuni on PH, Birdcage on DR etc.)
8) SHs go into round two against the villains (main fights) and win, saving everyone in the process.
9) Banquet and celebration of everyone on the island.
10) Sailing to the next island.
I mean you CAN do that, but on a micro-storytelling-level it's just as unimaginative and repetitive as it gets.
Still, due to the amazing macro-story, OP is a solid to good shonen. Just not a masterpiece in terms of writing.
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Also this
Also wincing Whitebeard, but with some laughing Goku in there. To say OP is mediocre sets up a comparison that's beyond silly, like... Rave LMAO. Art is subjective but there are so many objective factors to also look at here that calling OP mediocre is pretty dumb.
One Piece is not a mediocre series but it is excessively praised by some people within the community. The likes of ''reviewers'' on YT that have no backbone for any criticism whatsoever or the people on Reddit who think every chapter is a 10/10.
I see your point but that isn't always the case though. There are most certainly issues with OP when it comes to the pacing regardless of whether you're reading it weekly or just binge reading/watching. Look at Dressrosa for instance.
I see your point but that isn't always the case though. There are most certainly issues with OP when it comes to the pacing regardless of whether you're reading it weekly or just binge reading/watching. Look at Dressrosa for instance.
That's the anime so it's a little skewed though.
There are weekly pacing issues for sure. I started at the second half of Skypiea and I have to say that it was much better reading in full. I dropped out with the shadow stuff at Thriller Bark and didn't come back until the Buster Call because I just felt over it. But that just goes to say it's not really anything new, and I damn sure wouldn't talk up HXH or something like that if I have a problem with the OP pace, lol
There are weekly pacing issues for sure. I started at the second half of Skypiea and I have to say that it was much better reading in full. I dropped out with the shadow stuff at Thriller Bark and didn't come back until the Buster Call because I just felt over it. But that just goes to say it's not really anything new, and I damn sure wouldn't talk up HXH or something like that if I have a problem with the OP pace, lol
Not a fair comparisson at all....Its not like Oda has more than a year to write the next arc like HxH author has. HxH changes the formula much more and thats no wonder considering how slow the mangaka is on publishing chapters.
Its like gloathing that Berserk or vagabond has better writting than dragon ball...One piece is a masterpiece for what it manages to achieve, and that is being a weekly shounen manga that managed to be jump's top series for more than a decade. Just like Dragon ball did before it, andd lets be real, neither series have a complex plot at all.
Its like gloathing that Berserk or vagabond has better writting than dragon ball...One piece is a masterpiece for what it manages to achieve, and that is being a weekly shounen manga that managed to be jump's top series for more than a decade. Just like Dragon ball did before it, andd lets be real, neither series have a complex plot at all.
Do it from the manga at least
Also wincing Whitebeard, but with some laughing Goku in there. To say OP is mediocre sets up a comparison that's beyond silly, like... Rave LMAO. Art is subjective but there are so many objective factors to also look at here that calling OP mediocre is pretty dumb.
Also wincing Whitebeard, but with some laughing Goku in there. To say OP is mediocre sets up a comparison that's beyond silly, like... Rave LMAO. Art is subjective but there are so many objective factors to also look at here that calling OP mediocre is pretty dumb.
I'm sorry, that I called One Piece mid series, I was wrong...It's low series.
Rave Master is manga that comes out from 1999 year, and it never was OP knock off. Character design and everything was different. It has solid proper begining and solid ending. More to that Rave PlotTwist with time >>>>> Toki out of nowhere "twist". Plus to that characters and story has nothing in common that you could compare between em. How dare you call Rave as cast off of OP?! OP is cast off from Dragon Ball, while Rave is unique story with unique characters. Eat that fanboy!