Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

[Finalbeta]

If you can say stuff like this my koby wank should be just fine

There's logic behind my claims at least. Coby's power level is taboo right now.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

not

is zoro a top tier because of AP if so magellean is a top tier too right?

 

[Gauntlet]

Wasn't Zoro the one to name the technique The Breath of All Things? He likely only used it when he used Shishi Sonson Pre-TS since that was the only move he associates with the BOAT. It's not a coincidence that he never used it against Enel.

 

[draganax]

Wonder why shanks is not hyped to be WSP/WSM/WSC by killer/zoro oda in SBS

because people can't hype up Shanks without hyping up Teach even more,
he was able to leave an eternal scar on Shanks's face, where the WSS couldn't.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

There's logic behind my claims at least. Coby's power level is taboo right now.

Maybe I didn't read enough let me go re-read but theres logic/claims in mine too
Nothing wrongs with him rivaling luffy

 

[kenedyfake]

is zoro a top tier because of AP if so magellean is a top tier too right?

I consider him top tier, but now this invention of haki annulling akuma no mi, loses his little strength

one more oda pathetic thing.

 

[Lukegranders]

Need pics

 

[HA001]

wouldn't that just beat the idea of logia then coz, logia are meant to disperse in the form of the element they are built up with which is their primary function. but when they come in contact with haki they are rendered useless and leave the logia users vulnerable...

with that aside, was haki ever used against bartos barrier?

logias can get hit but they dont stop being their element
akainu was hit with haki was still magma
with logias it just lets you hit their real body
doesnt mean it cancels there powers
look at ace for example the only time his powers actually were negated were with blackbeard
not even akainus killing blow

 

[Luffy is the mc]

This attack is far stronger than any other attack they are capable of:

• Mama tells Kaido that they should launch a combination attack to destroy all the Supernova at once
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  • This was an attack the Yonkou thought was strong enough to kill the Supernova at a go.
• The Yonkou psych themselves up before performing the attack
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  • This is an attack that they psych themselves up before performing. Kaido asks Mam if she's still in shape to perform such a technique.
• The attack is named Hakai meaning "Conquering the Sea"
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  • Naming scheme:
    • Hakai: "Conquering the Sea"
    • Hakoku: "Conquering a Nation"
    • Ikkoku Sovereignty: "Nation's Might"
  • Based on the naming scheme: Hakai >> Hakoku >> Ikkoku Sovereignty.
    • Conquering the Sea >> Conquering a Nation >> Nation's Might
• Zoro confirms that the attack would kill them all if they stay in the same place:
• Kidd thanks Zoro for saving them:
• Even with Zoro blocking it, it destroys part of Onigashima:

A summary of Zoro's on panel accomplishments so far:

• Saved Luffy 7 times
  • Saved Luffy countless times while he was hakiless
• Saved all Supernova twice
  • From Kaido's Tatsumaki
  • From the Yonkou's Hakai
• Hiryuu Kaen terrified the Yonkou and made Mama warn Kaido to dodge
  • After witnessing it, Mama commented that they had "really underestimated" Zoro.
• Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido
• Neutralised Prometheus
  • This allowed Mama to get yeeted off the Rooftop.

He's had by far the greatest contribution to the fight considering that all of them owe him their lives at least twice, and Luffy up to 7 times.

However good you think Luffy has performed, he would have been dead several times over if not for Zoro.

I don't really understand how you can claim Luffy is the clear MVP. Even if we discount Hiryuu Kaen because it didn't actually land, Zoro has saved Luffy 7 times on panel (and countless times off panel) and all other Supernova once, including from a certain kill attack.

They would literally all be dead if not for Zoro.



Unless one second is literally stated in the chapter, it's a few seconds:

• Zoro screams at the other Supernova that they should move out of the way or they will all die.
• The Supernova then dodge.
• We see the attack destroy part of the island.
• Afterwards, Zoro is overwhelmed.

Unless 1 second is actually stated in the Raws, the above took longer.

I don't see anybody as the MVP so far and like I said in one of your thread, Luffy didn't need saving. It's good that Zoro helped him but he could have tanked or dodged the attacks imo.
We still haven't seen what each of the SN can do at their peak strength.
Luffy being the MC is most likely to show better feats.
So far he has proved he is the best, landing powerful attacks, tanking attacks and being targeted more than anybody else.

 

[Finalbeta]

Nothing wrongs with him rivaling luffy

It's too soon for it, that's the problem. Coby will most likely never be as strong as Luffy and he will probably attempt to catch up post EoS if they both make it alive.

 

[Tejas]

Lejas with the bad take again

Mihawk afraid of Zoro

 

[MonsterKaido]

because people can't hype up Shanks without hyping up Teach even more,
he was able to leave an eternal scar on Shanks's face, where the WSS couldn't.

Dude read the context

 

[Chrono]

People calling Zoro a top tier. Like a Top Tier would be bloodied from that attack for one second. Delusional af

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Luffy >>> Oden. I am never entertaining any Luffy vs Oden matchup ever again

 

[draganax]

Why cant Ling break Sanji's leg?

Sanji struggled for his life while Vergo was in sparring mode.

lmao sanji took two free hits on vergo, but once vergo got serious he almost broke sanji's leg.

 

[Fujishiro]

slow down? Why are you afraid to say block?

He blocked it momentarily could mean slow down too lol, its the same meaning.

Though he is right in that Zoro was probably gonna be extremely injured if not outright die if Law didnt shambles him away.

This is still great hype from Zoro though, he blocked an attack from two top tiers momentarily, any YC wouldve gotten deleted instantly.

Hence why Zoro low top tier!

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

I consider him top tier, but now this invention of haki annulling akuma no mi, loses his little strength

by top tier you mean low top tier, right?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Shanks would beat Kaido 1v1

there it is
kaido number 1 crumbling early
sigh

 

[Chrono]

lmao sanji took two free hits on vergo, but once vergo got serious he almost broke sanji's leg.

Injured Sanji 5 arcs ago.

 

[bennbeckman]

From 1001 to 1003 every Zoro panel agaisnt the Yonko is about Oden’s Haki.

Where does it explicity say Zoro is using Oden's Haki, or that Oden's Haki is being used in any of the panels Zoro attacks with enma.... I want to see this panel that says "Oden's Haki"