Chapter Discussion Zoro held the Yonko attack for more than just a second

[GreenEggsAHam]

Big mom is not dying from illness.

Whitebeard wasn't dying from an illness he was dying from wounds
Whitebeard databook: Though he has aged and requires tube (liquid) feeding and specialised nurses to care for him, whether it is his spirit or ability, that has never deteoriated!

Whitebeard wasnt stronger than both hybrid kaido and big mom thats pure headcanon, Kidd is irrelevant to this stop deterring from he topic.
Whitebeard at marinefold was sick old and dying.

You're a school threat, whitebeard is not stronger than 2 yonkos you're crazy bud
hes stronger than both individually

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

So big mom devil fruit got weaker
Haki is willpower, whitebeard will power never got weaker instead his physicals were wonky thats all

I said it was impressive but kidd is physically stronger than zoro
"Even If" Is it my fault whitebeard was confirmed over MIhawk and Kaido and the admirals put him in the dirt?
Dying old sick nothing everyone knew he was old

Physical state affecting a devil fruit is a manga fact stop ignoring it. Cracker literally stated that hes having a hard time making more biscuit soldiers because hes losing stamina, This alone proves i am right.

 

[Chrono]

0.889 secs

And that's me being generous

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Whitebeard wasn't dying from an illness he was dying from wounds
Whitebeard databook: Though he has aged and requires tube (liquid) feeding and specialised nurses to care for him, whether it is his spirit or ability, that has never deteoriated!

You're a school threat, whitebeard is not stronger than 2 yonkos you're crazy bud
hes stronger than both individually

They are not fighting individually retard are they? This is a double attack. Their individual strength is irrelevant, Hakai is a double attack not an individual attack. Individual strength is irrelevant.
White beard was dying from sickness thats a manga fact. Stop the headcanon.
The author stated it himself:

Whitebeard was not healthy at marine fold and his health deteriorating without his machines he was hooked into:

Crocodile called him weak compared to what he was before:

Whitebeard knew about all of this and even admitted it to himself that he cant be the strongest for ever and that hes becoming weaker and that he has one heart implying that he knew that the disease is affecting his health very badly and that if he can save ace he will be competent with what he did:

Whitebeard was hooked to machines and when he was unhooked of the medicine and his crew showed that the were concerned of his health being unhooked. Oda himself said that these medicine were there to help him live basically because without them his condition can not be stable, These are the authors words himself from an sbs:

Conclusion : MarineFold White beard was dying and very far off from his Prime. Which means he could have just died off without his medicine at any point being. He was not just sick. He needed medicine to even stay alive.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Cracker literally stated that hes having a hard time making more biscuit soldiers because hes losing stamina, This alone proves i am right.

That's cracker, just like how you say "just because zoro can do it doesn't mean x can do it"
Kaido + Big mom devil fruits aren't being affected through stamina which is weird right? same for luffy's
11hr fight with katakuri

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

That's cracker, just like how you say "just because zoro can do it doesn't mean x can do it"
Kaido + Big mom devil fruits aren't being affected through stamina which is weird right? same for luffy's
11hr fight with katakuri

Luffy devil fruit not affected by stamina? Head canon again, What do you call his state after running out of stamina in g4 and becoming useles until he recovers stamina

He literally becomes useless. And why is cracker an exclusion ? Is it because you have no replay when proven wrong?
Explain why cracker said his stamina affecting his devil fruit or gtfo with your trolling.

 

[Finalbeta]

That's cracker, just like how you say "just because zoro can do it doesn't mean x can do it"
Kaido + Big mom devil fruits aren't being affected through stamina which is weird right? same for luffy's
11hr fight with katakuri

Why would they not be affected by stamina? Who told you that?

 

[nik87]

Zoro was pushing against Hakai for its entire duration, he never stopped.
He managed to completely stop it very briefly, then the attack started passing around Zoro.
Law has never shambled Zoro out of it, that was a mistake from spoiler providers.

 

[T.D.A]

It does as panel by panel doesn't mean seconds have past each one. It showing side by side of what is going on in the chapter. If we go by panel on time for each moment, that mean several minutes have past on each page when reality it's not describing it like that. 1 second is what they stated and what felt it was. You can't force it your way cause yo don't like how it shown. Doubt they wouldn't say something like that for no reason if it was stated to be more than '1 second'.

Bruh we're reading the same chapter as they are, so I'm not sure why you keep using a spoiler provider's non-literal comment as a literal fact and reference.

All you have to do is read out Zoro's dialogue and you'll know it's not 1 second.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Luffy devil fruit not affected by stamina? Head canon again, What do you call his state after running out of stamina in g4 and becoming useles until he recovers stamina

Luffy: After g4 my haki runs out
You: Bu...t Stamina

He literally becomes useless. And why is cracker an exclusion ? Is it because you have no replay when proven wrong?
Explain why cracker said his stamina affecting his devil fruit or gtfo with your trolling.

Explain, Big mom and kaido clashing for 12 hours did Kaido randomly start decreasing in strength due to stamina same for big mom
Ask yourself did katakuri or luffy get any weaker during your fight
Oh well, playtimes up let me show you this

Whitebeard stamina never played a role for his devil fruit, you're making headcannon but I don't see you complaining about Mihawk title
Sengoku: You still have this much strength left

 

[Finalbeta]

Luffy: After g4 my haki runs out
You: Bu...t Stamina

Explain, Big mom and kaido clashing for 12 hours did Kaido randomly start decreasing in strength due to stamina same for big mom
Ask yourself did katakuri or luffy get any weaker during your fight
Oh well, playtimes up let me show you this

Whitebeard stamina never played a role for his devil fruit, you're making headcannon but I don't see you complaining about Mihawk title
Sengoku: You still have this much strength left

Man devil fruit powers can be energy consuming. Just think about Luffy's gears.

Do you expect Whitebeard to throw 1000 gura fists and his stamina to firmly remain very good? Why would Oda prove so foolish?

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Man devil fruit powers can be energy consuming. Just think about Luffy's gears.

Yes

stamina

No, but he did spam gura attacks atleast several times yes it takes stamina but hes trying to find it as an excuse to nerf WB greatness

 

[Shelby]

Law has never shambled Zoro out of it,

Isn't Law sticking out his finger and Zoro appearing beside him a clear indication of Shambles?

 

[The Legend]

No matter the time or the excuses, that attack should have one shotted Zoro just by touching him, no matter how great is the Hakai, wounded Zoro made the yonko look bad ...
And add that it seems that Kaido is distrustful to the point of evading Luffy's attack.

Zoro demonstrating why he is the true captain of the strawhats

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Bruh we're reading the same chapter as they are, so I'm not sure why you keep using a spoiler provider's non-literal comment as a literal fact and reference.

All you have to do is read out Zoro's dialogue and you'll know it's not 1 second.

Then tell me why they stated '1 second' when spoilers came out after seeing chapter themselves? In quick fashion of the attack, it make sense how fast it was coming and hurting Zoro. He would have die if he stay there and he probably stated those stuff in fast pace. Not much wording to state what he stated in that time. Again it's not a feat to push him on that if Law had to saved him knewing he wasn't going to able to stop it. No shame in that as I give him it to him on trying, but you don't push feat on trying if it didn't go through. Think of all feats we give to others based on the 'try' if you want make it like that. It wouldn't make sense here and there.

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No matter the time or the excuses, that attack should have one shotted Zoro just by touching him, no matter how great is the Hakai, wounded Zoro made the yonko look bad ...
And add that it seems that Kaido is distrustful to the point of evading Luffy's attack.

Zoro demonstrating why he is the true captain of the strawhats

You do realize they using this 'headcannon' to push Admirals will get defeated by Zoro now since they can never do it even Akainu. I wouldn't try to help on their toxic mindset.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

yes it takes stamina but hes trying to find it as an excuse to nerf WB greatness

You literally admit it takes stamina troll, But you still argue against it. Still waiting for you to explain why cracker lost stamina by using his devil fruit and why hes an exception. Unless you answer this your whole argument looks retarded and has no credibility. But you will keep ignoring it because yiou are a troll and wont admit you are wrong. So i will ask again why did cracker say that him using his devil fruit made him lose stamina if devil fruits dont affect stamina?

 

[Vlad D. Impaler]

Why are we discussing the 'Number Of Seconds' for which Zoro blocked the Yonkos attack?? What matters is that, what he did was commendable, as it even shocked both BM and Kaido... Lol, Yonkos are receiving frequent surprises as the battle progresses.

 

[Finalbeta]

No matter the time or the excuses, that attack should have one shotted Zoro just by touching him, no matter how great is the Hakai, wounded Zoro made the yonko look bad ...
And add that it seems that Kaido is distrustful to the point of evading Luffy's attack.

Zoro demonstrating why he is the true captain of the strawhats

At the end of the day Zoro still deflected the trajectory of the slash with alleged barrier haki so his feat is astoundingly great, teleport or not.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Luffy: After g4 my haki runs out
You: Bu...t Stamina

Explain, Big mom and kaido clashing for 12 hours did Kaido randomly start decreasing in strength due to stamina same for big mom
Ask yourself did katakuri or luffy get any weaker during your fight
Oh well, playtimes up let me show you this

Whitebeard stamina never played a role for his devil fruit, you're making headcannon but I don't see you complaining about Mihawk title
Sengoku: You still have this much strength left

If devil fruits dont affect physitcal state and stamina and the vice versa then explain this retard:
* Law says the more he uses his devil fruit the less power he has, He also says that he needs to save his energy implying that if he gets too tired using it he wont be as affective later on:

Spoiler: law power consumes his energy

*Old ray tells Luffy maybe he shouldnt use g4 because it puts stress on his body, when luffy gets out of g4 he gets practically useless and cant use his devil fruit at all at times, Sometimes he even shrink to save energy:

Spoiler: Luffy g4 stress on his body

* cracker gets tired after using his devil fruit again and again begins huffing and sweating from just using it and doing nothing else, Luffy says he will run out of stamina eventually, And he stopped making his crackers at the same rate he was making before he got tired:

Spoiler: Cracker clearly tired from using his devil fruit only

If devil fruits dont affect and dont get affected by your physical state then how do you explain all of this?

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Why are we discussing the 'Number Of Seconds' for which Zoro blocked the Yonkos attack?? What matters is that, what he did was commendable, as it even shocked both BM and Kaido... Lol, Yonkos are receiving frequent surprises as the battle progresses.

Because we can, If you dont like it you can ignore it.

 

[nik87]

Isn't Law sticking out his finger and Zoro appearing beside him a clear indication of Shambles?

No.
Law, like the other 3, are getting out of the way, as Zoro told them to.
It is clear indication of Shambles but he is shambling himself out of the way.
It is not Zoro who appeared next to Law, it is 4 of them appearing next to Zoro.
There was no time to dodge anyway.

In that panel you posted you can already see that Hakai has slipped past Zoro.
All 5 of them are standing on the ground scorched by Hakai.
It means they never got away. Zoro saved them all by slightly lifting the core of the attack.