General & Others List of Plot Points that need to be addressed before One Piece ends (and why OP will NOT end in 5 years)!!!!

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#41
I still don't believe it. I know Oda wants to end it, but I don't think he's the type to give his story a rushed finale like that. I mean one whole arc can take two to three years easily and we got at least three major arcs to go (elbaf, final war, raftel). Something's got to give and I hope it's not the quality of the story.
:kayneshrug:
It will get One Punch Man style
 
#42
Most of these plot points can be taken care of with a few chapters.
But I do think it will last a bit longer than just 5 years, i see it going for another 7 years.
Except if the final arc is the biggest war ever, with revolutionary army, straw hats and their allies, wg and marines, blackbeard and his allies all fighting against each other.
 
#44
Most of these plot points can be taken care of with a few chapters.
But I do think it will last a bit longer than just 5 years, i see it going for another 7 years.
Except if the final arc is the biggest war ever, with revolutionary army, straw hats and their allies, wg and marines, blackbeard and his allies all fighting against each other.
7 years seems quite realistic.
If we assume Wano takes at least around 80 more chapters (which it probably will, since basically all of act 3, act 4 and act 5 is still left), that means after Wano we would get around 190 chapters until OP is finished.
That leaves enough room for Elbaf (~50 chapters), finding Raftel + final fight against Blackbeard (~50 chapters) and the final war + wrap up of the whole story (~90 chapters).
 
#45
7 years seems quite realistic.
If we assume Wano takes at least around 80 more chapters (which it probably will, since basically all of act 3, act 4 and act 5 is still left), that means after Wano we would get around 190 chapters until OP is finished.
That leaves enough room for Elbaf (~50 chapters), finding Raftel + final fight against Blackbeard (~50 chapters) and the final war + wrap up of the whole story (~90 chapters).
Wano will be a good indicator. The story is going faster, we learned quite a lot of things about the past, how to get to laugh tale, luffy already has a few poneglyphs and after wano he'll need only one, we learned about imu, dragon made his moves, so did blackbeard, a lot of things are happening in parallel of the main story.
We'll see how oda wants to handle the fights in wano, if he takes his time not only for luffy then 5 years is definitely not enough.
 
#46
Like I get that you guys don't want One piece to end, me neither, but what I read here is beyond hilarious.
- We should never say Oda " needs to" give us something because we don't know his estimations. He decides which plot points are important enough to be mentioned, and which not.

If he says he wraps up the story in 5 years, and that repeatedly, then I'm sry, but we have to believe him.
 
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#47
Like I get that you guys don't want One piece to end, me neither, but what I read here is beyond hilarious.
- We should never say Oda " needs to" give us something because we don't know his estimations. He decides which plot points are important enough to be mentioned, and which not.

If he says he wraps up the story in 5 years, and that repeatedly, then I'm sry, but we have to believe him.
Oda doesn't owe us anything and I think the vast majority of fans is extremely grateful for his work, but why exactly should we believe him here?
His previous estimations have been way off the mark. Even recently he messed up way easier projections (said in 2015 that we will enter Wano in 2016, then in 2017 and actually we finally entered it in 2018).
I already outlined, why 5 years just seems unrealistic. I think 7 years is the minimum it requires to finish everything.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#48
Not sure if it was mentioned but we gotta find out whether or not the world would explode if all ancient weapons were put in one place and used at the same time :smoothieduck:
 
#49
Void Century - Raftel - One Piece
Shanks and Elbaf
Revo and Dragon
Luffy vs Teach

PS. Admirals and Cp-0 can be solved a bit in every others plot point
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Void Century - Raftel - One Piece
Shanks and Elbaf
Revo and Dragon
Luffy vs Teach

PS. Admirals and Cp-0 can be solved a bit in every others plot point
Others prominent figures:
Crocodile, Mihawk, Buggy, Weevil, Marco, Smoker, Koby, Garp and Rocks
 
#50
5 years ain't 250 chapters and Oda has to tell about:
Elbaf
Raftel
Possible Moon Arc
WG Arc

Even if we assume that Elbaf and WG are short arcs, I doubt Raftel is (BB crew will be shown there).
 
#52
Pudding awakening her third eye.

Someone learning about Shirahoshi being an Ancient Weapon.

Who was Joy Boy ?

Is Shandora the last remaining part of the Ancient Kingdom ?

How did Crocodile learn about Pluton and its link to Alabasta ?
 
H

Homelander

#59
The list you have mentioned might be covered all in 5 years.

Frankly i dont see a point why do we need what vegapunk and young judge did 50 years ago is pointless to story . We know WG has banned lineage factor.

Elbaf can be shortened if they dont cover too much about the other stuffs and treat it as part of end game storyline.

Shanks past mightbe crucial to storyline . He is afterall luffys rolemodel.


Godvalley and xebec storyline can be compressed in wano arc itself if we get to know about kaidos past .

I mean we truly are at end game if both big mom and kaido will go down in onigashima. Which i think oda will make it happen because oda still needs to cover and wrap up world govt storyline.

Raftel arc will be about pirate vs marine war. I dont think strawhat will have it easy if they are on way to raftel . I am pretty sure WG will find out about it and luffy will become main target.

I forsee pirates from rest of the world will declare luffy as pirate king and fight against WG.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#60
Just cutting it all up into three categories, to cut some fat with plot points that matter but ultimately don't.

Plot Points that will be resolved in the (minimum) 190 chapter limit.
  • Luffy finding the One Piece and fighting Blackbeard.
  • Zoro beating Mihawk and becoming the WGS.
  • Nami finishing the map of the world.
  • Usopp becoming a brave warrior of the sea.
  • Sanji finding the All Blue and re-uniting with Pudding.
  • Chopper creating the ultimate cure.
  • Robin discovering the true history.
  • Franky guiding the Sunny go to the finish line.
  • Brook meeting Laboon.
  • Jinbei and the Vinsmoke’s fate.
  • King’s race and the three races Big Mom is missing from her island.
  • What happened to Sabo, Vivi and King Cobra?
  • Dragon’s war with the celestial Dragons.
  • Greenbull’s identity.
  • Coby’s journey towards becoming an admiral and the goal of Sword.
  • Kaido’s individual backstory and the reason he’s suicidal.
  • Denjiro’s identity. Lady Toki's story.
  • The incident the Strawhat grand fleet will cause.
  • Aokiji’s true goal and his alliance with Blackbeard.
  • The Rocks pirates’ history and the God Valley Incident.
  • Shanks’ conversation with the Gorosei and his overall character arc.
  • Void century story.
  • Imu’s true identity and goals.
  • The giant strawhat / the hidden treasure in Marejois and its connection to the Law’s devil fruit.
  • Vegapunk’s indentity/history and his new SSG creation.
  • The fate of the former warlords, especially Weevil, Hancock and Mihawk.
  • Joy Boy identity and the meaning of the Will of D.
  • The fate of the 3 ancient weapons.
  • Luffy destroying Fishman Island and the fate of the Noah.
  • Last road ponelyph’s location and finding Laugh Tale.

The bolded among these can almost certainly be resolved in single chapter reveals. Some of them could be squeezed into one chapter itself. So while it's still a pretty imposing list, nothing stops King's race reveal to occur during Kaido's flashback. Likewise, Rock's pirate's history being discussed by Linlin some time. They aren't exactly very top plot points, either. We also know that each SH goal will be achieved, so that's essentially a moot issue. They'll get a few panels at the bare minimum EoS for their own personal endings.

Plot Points that have a good chance of being explained in one way or another.
  • Kuma’s history with Bonney.
  • Voice of all things explanation (Luffy, Momo, Roger, etc…)

Neither needs to be added, but still likely will. I deem these as secondary to everything else though.

Plot Points that can be dropped
  • Prince Loki’s story and the whole Elbaph arc.
  • Enel’s return and the connection of the moon race to the void century.
  • Katakuri’s fate and if he’ll meet Luffy again.
  • Law, Kidd, Uroge, Hawkins, Drake, etc… stories and fates.
  • Vegapunk explaining devil fruit origins and how Blackbeard is able to use two devil fruits.
  • The three eyed clan and their ability to read poneglyphs.

Despite liking some of these, I don't think they would be missed if the story continued forward. Apart from cover stories, Enel hasn't been mentioned again. Katakuri ultimately doesn't matter, either. The Supernova will each get small pieces of time but I doubt anything grand like with Law.


Overall, I doubt Oda will finish the story in 190-ish chapters or 5 years worth of manga. It might be his intention, meaning we will see sped up chapters and Oda's usual worldbuilding may diminish. But he also wanted us to arrive in Wano by the end of 2017. If Oda says he'll finish in 5 years, we'll probably finish in 7. It's not great news, considering Wano is going to consume the next 50 chapters with all the fights and information we still don't have. It means we might actually be going towards Raftel after Wano.
 
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