Future Events Poll: Who is the EoS opponent of Luffy based on your predictions for the final arc?

Who is Luffy's final opponent?

  • Akainu

  • Blackbeard

  • Imu


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#82
Melkor fodderizes Sauron, so dumb argument
He literally can't because he's all but irrelevant (absent) by the time of WotR. His lasting influence on Arda is made manifest in Sauron by the end of the 3a: the last obstacle to the freedom of the peoples of ME. Sauron and Melkor's relationship was mutually beneficial but contrary at their core (domination vs destruction respectively), in much the same way Akainu and Imu have differing but mutually beneficial ideologies (absolute justice, absolute domination)
I wasn't making a comparison of muh powerlevels lol. Melkor was the cause, Sauron was the effect.
 
#84
Akainu is the one irrelevant here. No ties to the void century at all unlike Imu/Gorosei/BB.
Is Imu even a fighter? We don't know. Obviously Imu is more important to the backstory of the WG/Void Century/d-clan etc etc, but his/her capabilities are entirely fan speculation. Who is to say his/her power wasn't maintained by the ancient weapons in the past or that Luffy doesn't just end him/her with one punch ala Saint Charlos? For all the supposed strength of the Gorosei and Imu, Fisher Tiger sure had no difficulty burning Mary Geoise to the ground.
 
#85
Is Imu even a fighter? We don't know. Obviously Imu is more important to the backstory of the WG/Void Century/d-clan etc etc, but his capabilities are entirely fan speculation. Who is to say his power wasn't maintained by the ancient weapons in the past or that Luffy doesn't just end him/her with one punch ala Saint Charlos? For all the strength of the Gorosei and Imu, Fisher Tiger sure had no difficulty burning the place to the ground.
Whether Imu is a fighter or not doesn't matter, Gorosei are the ones directly answer to him and act like some personal guards.

They all are more relevant than Akainu when it comes to the One Piece and the ancient past.
 
#90
Blackbeard for me, Im the second choice. I see no opportunity for Sakazuki being the final villain, he’s irrelevant to the main mysteries of One Piece- the Will of D, Laugh Tale and the One Piece, the Void Century, Im, Joyboy, and the Ancient Weapons.

I’ve always thought it would be Blackbeard- the reveal of Rocks just confirmed that. You have a guy- a D nonetheless- that was so dangerous, that Roger and Garp had to team up to defeat, defending the Celestial Dragons in the process? This means Rocks was someone who made the Celestial Dragons look like the lesser evil? And Blackbeard has taken his island, named his ship after him and tried to do what he did by gathering a bunch of famous pirates under his name? How can people not see what is happening here? I wouldn’t be surprised if Rock’s had the darkness fruit originally, given Blackbeard’s obsession with him. Blackbeard looks very much to have inherited his will, and that means, like i posted yesterday, him aiming to place his fat ass on the Empty Throne.

Also as an aside, not only is Blackbeard the next coming of Rocks, he’s also an evil version of Whitebeard. Father and “son”, the person who killed WB, stole his DF and his Yonko place. His crew is set up in the same ways as having “divisions”. I think that Whiebeard’s old WSM title will be resurrected for him. Even their epithet’s are mirror images of each other- White and Black Beard.

One Piece is the story of Luffy and Blackbeard’s rise. Two D’s who are tearing down the Balance of Power and the established order, freedom vs anarchy. Look at the story as a whole. East Blue, a long prologue of sorts (hence Loguetown being the last island there) introducing us to our hero. Then comes Part One, Paradise, where Luffy and Blackbeard’s parallel rise is entwined with each other. Just look at the story.

-Blackbeard murders Thatch, setting Ace into the New World and panicking Shanks
-Blackbeard wrecks Drum, which leads to Luffy going there and saving it, getting a crewmate
-Luffy meets up with Ace who is hunting Blackbeard, and Luffy defeats Warlord Crocodile. This puts Luffy, Blackbeard and Ace on a collision course and has massive repercussions for the rest of the series. As an aside, Shanks plans to meet Blackbeard
-Jaya, Luffy and Blackbeard first meet, have an instinctive recognition that something is special about the other. Man’s dreams never end. Blackbeard applies for the role in the Warlords that is open because of Luffy, and decides that he’ll capture him. We see Blackbeard’s crew mirrors Luffy’s in many ways
-Ennies Lobby. Luffy and Blackbeard announce themselves to the world. Luffy defeats CP9, Blackbeard captures Ace and becomes a Warlord. Shanks meets Blackbeard solely to talk about how worried he is about Blackbeard, revealing that he was the one who scarred him.
-Thriller Bark and Saobody, it’s revealed that Blackbeard’s capture of Ace has resulted in him being in line to be executed, with a war between Whitebeard and the Warlords planned
-Impel Down, Luffy and Blackbeard’s first fight, where the two fight fairly evenly. Blackbeard meets his own powerful swordsman. There’s mention of some infamous, powerful pirates who’s very existence the World Gov has hidden.
-Marineford, Luffy‘s attempt to free Ace, breakout of ID, relationship to Dragon and CoC reveal all make him stand out. Blackbeard reveals his new, full crew, that he’s the only person in the world with two DF powers and kills Whitebeard.

Absolutely no other villain has any build up even slightly comparing to that. That’s a story that has been built up carefully throughout the entiroety of Paradise, intwined with Luffy. Now, Blackbeard’s had to take a but of a lesser role in the New World while Kaido and Big Mom get dealt with, but that’s just because the best is being saved for last. Look at the tidbits we’ve had about him since, it’s all leading up to great things. There’s the already mentioned Rocks parallels, but in addition to that we have

-the Worst Gen. That is literally only a thing to put Luffy and Blackbeard in the same generation. Nobody in-series refers to the Supernova anymore, it’s all Worst Gen.
-going into the New World, Blackbeard’s rise (and the fact he’s hunting DFs) being one of the two big changes
-Chinjao says he’s the only one with potential
-Aokiji has joined Blackbeard
-Blackbeard destroys Baltigo
-Blackbeard won the Payback War
-Im seems to consider Blackbeard and Luffy equal threats
-the little tidbit in Oden’s flashback about Blackbeard never sleeping
-Blackbeard is off to do some mischief after what happened in Reverie, he’s ready to hit the limelight again.

And Shanks’ warning about a ”certain pirate” to the Gorosei, even if its not about Blackbeard directly, almost certainly ties into him in some way since the two are always linked.

And in addition to Blackbeard himself, just a smaller mention- no other organistion has a crew that is so perfectly matched to the Strawhats as a whole. The Marines don’t, the Gorosei are by design a homogenous blob of soulless bureaucratic stagnation. In the Ten Titanic Captains you’ve got the perfect evil mirrors of the Strawhats lined up- that’s why they were the only other crew where each members position was revealed initially. They’ll hunt down DFs that perfectly oppose the crew. Every one of them is real, nasty, evil piece of shit, with a great, unique design.

There’s this arguemnt that persists that somehow Blackbeard is some sort of gatekeeper villain to be dealt with before the final war and it honestly just baffles me. Why would Oda be casting this unique, longrunning villaim aside before the endgame? The final war is meant to be the one that makes Marineford look small (not Wano, which i see people saying a lot), why exactly would Blackbeard not be involved in that? Because Whitebeard said he wasn’t Joyboy, basically? Yeah, that’s no surprise, was anyone reading One Piece and thinking “I bet Roger was actually waiting for Blackbeard instead of Luffy.” Because Luffy needs to “challenge the world to a fight?” Sorry, is Blackbeard some sort of alien that doesn’t count as a part of the world (actually maybe, depending on the people from the moon), but anyway, Blackbeard on the Empty Throne as King of the World like Rocks wanted would fulfil that regardless.

Im, I see the argument, I don’t think it would be as good (that doesn’t mean it’s bad, but Im would have a hell of a lot to do in a short time to catchup with Blackbeard) and I don’t think it’s were the story is going. Mostly because of the glory of Blackbeard, but also because I’m 99% certain Im is a woman- Oda does not have powerful men relaxing with butterflies in a room called the flower garden, and that really looks like a dress with a train that Im is wearing. Im being the Final One Piece Princess, wouldn’t surprise me at all.

That was a lot longer than I thought it would be
This is a fantastic post, I think you’ve convinced me and I’m really hype rn lol
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#94
The only one who has an actual build up for that role. Also there is really somebody (trolls aside obviously) who thinks Akainu will be thebfinal villain? I found it hard to believe.
Blackbeard and most importantly Im by hype. There's a lot of material that renders it very unlikely indeed.

Perhaps Luffy is the man destined to establish order and end Im's dominium " in the name " of Joy Boy.
 
#95
Blackbeard and most importantly Im by hype. There's a lot of material that renders it very unlikely indeed.

Perhaps Luffy is the man destined to establish order and end Im's dominium " in the name " of Joy Boy.
The problem is that IM is OP's Kaguya, he has been thrown there for a single chapter in the last part of the story while BB on the other hand has an entirely different caliber as far as the build up goes at the very least. Just look at Garp's post in this thread.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#96
I’m team Imu solely because his/her introduction to the series is pointless if they aren’t the final villains Imu—sama doesn’t make the already shadowy echelons of the Celestial Dragons any worse. We already knew the Gorosei ruled the world and were despicable, corrupt autocrats.

Adding Imu doesn’t make the image of the world government any worse. The only plot thread Imu—Samas introduction would benefit is the Ancient Weapons/Joy Boy/Void century mysteries.

All of which is becoming more and more the focus of the series as opposed to obtaining the pirate king title. I can’t see Oda transitioning to make Teach represent or embody those same plot lines and I can’t see Imu—sama/the darkness of the world vanishing only for Teach to rear his head and be some greater challenge.

It’s becoming more obvious it’ll be Akainu v. Sabo, Luffy v. Imu—sama, and the allies like Marco/Law/Kidd etc against the Gorosei
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#97
The problem is that IM is OP's Kaguya, he has been thrown there for a single chapter in the last part of the story while BB on the other hand has an entirely different caliber as far as the build up goes at the very least. Just look at Garp's post in this thread.
It might be and it might not. If Im will be revealed as a Kaguya-like being I can totally likely see Luffy striking Im down with help assuming Im's dominium needs to necessarily be tackled with.
 
#98
It might be and it might not. If Im will be revealed as a Kaguya-like being I can totally likely see Luffy striking Im down with help assuming Im's dominium needs to necessarily be tackled with.
The problem, for me at least, is that you can't have a final villain magically pop out of the blue at the end. At least it would be stupid to use a generic final villaun like that when you have somebody like BB who has been build for the role since his very first appearence and throughout the whole manga.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#99
The problem, for me at least, is that you can't have a final villain magically pop out of the blue at the end. At least it would be stupid to use a generic final villaun like that when you have somebody like BB who has been build for the role since his very first appearence and throughout the whole manga.
In fact I would despise such scenario, expecially after all the intense building on Blackbeard and the interactions with the SHs, I would not love someone to overshadow him.
 
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