Future Events Poll: Who is the EoS opponent of Luffy based on your predictions for the final arc?

[KiriNigiri]

Someone from the World Government. The Government are consistently portrayed as the object of misfortune everywhere the Straw Hats go. They are what divide the world, they are what strip people of their freedom, and they are afraid of those who challenge their authority in serious ways.

Luffy and Teach are the top contenders to toppling them, depicted by IM-sama obsessing over their bounties.

You could argue that the World Government are simply the holders of the prize, which is the world itself, and that the story will end with Luffy and Teach battling for fate of the world after the Government is stripped of it in the final war. This would make Teach the final opponent of the story.

My perspective is that Teach will be Luffy's final Pirate obstacle, and that will be represented with Teach standing in Luffy's way just before he retrieves the One Piece. The way Newgate recounted right before his death, the fate of the world would rest on the one who finds the One Piece, challenging the Government which currently holds it. The two forces at play being emphasized are Luffy and the Government.

 

[King7]

Akainu isn't really a candidate anymore , and a few believed Shanks will be the FV , but i don't think he will , in my opinion at least .

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so for me it's between Imu and Teach , and i'm on the Imu side .

for me the main reason for Teach not being the Final Villain is that , his 10 Titanic Captains also have to be super-duper strong to be the Final Opponents for Strawhats , like an example , Shiryuu should be the WSS and will be as strong or stronger than Mihawk .

but i don't believe Shiryuu will , WSS Shiryuu sounds really terrible and it's the most terrible thing that could happen to Mihawk .

but either way it's hard to see Teach and his 10 Titanic Captains will overall be more powerful than the World Government , the WG actually has been established as

"the Greatest Power in the World" :

Spoiler: Chapter 233

Spoiler: chapter 907

i also have made a list of the World Government's forces here :
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/rocks-if-never-disbanded-vs-wg.5770/post-527743

i don't even believe Blackbeard Pirates will be > Marine HQ , bar Teach being > Akainu , the rest of Marines will be stronger than their Blackbeard Pirates counterparts , for examples :

• Kizaru > peaked Shiryuu
• Ryokugyu > whoever Sanji or Jinbe is going to fight
• Chaton > whoever Franky's opponent is
• Tsuru > Catarina Devon

and Marine HQ is the "gate" of the World Government in Mariejois ( this isn't VIZ but they are not much different )

Spoiler: chapter 905

so i suspect the forces in Mariejois will be even stronger than Marine HQ's

among the Mariejois' forces , one interesting thing is that , one of the Elders seems to have the Shodai Kitetsu sword , one of the 3 known 12 Supreme Grade Blades so far , and the 2 other blades are/were held by these two :

Spoiler

the WSS and WSM .

and while currently the Shodai Kitetsu Elder doesn't look like a top tier , Oda could just make him a top tier by turning him back to his prime with Bonney , who were infact last seen in Mariejois , and had been there since long before that - Akainu captured her in 595
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anyway again , for me the Final Villain is Imu , but i believe Teach has already got Pluton , and will do one major thing left before getting defeated by Luffy in Raftel
( defeating Mihawk , Shanks , and the rest of Red Haired Pirates )​

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

The great war starts after they find one piece, so we will get a whole arc of PK Luffy overthrowing the current system. Which eliminates any pirate as EoS opponent, he has to defeat them before becoming PK

 

[Jailer]

The fact that he has the Gorosei (who are clearly fighters) groveling at his feet is a good enough argument for him to be a fighter.

It doesn't make Imu a fighter tho, that scene makes the Gorosei more as fighters than Imu acting as his personal guards, kind of like CP9 and Spandam but a more serious Spandam with some special ability maybe.

Imu maybe at best just has some special ability like Luffy/Momo hearing voices or something.

 

[King7]

i feel like i didn't do the Mariejois forces justice in that post , so :

• Imu - Ruler of the World

Spoiler

i believe this figure is based on Ymir , the Norse Mythological figure who created all things on Earth :

here's also a theory featuring Imu being Ymir thanks to Playa4321 and Admiral Ryokugyu https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/the-final-arc-ragnarok-from-admiral-ryokugyu.1226/

• the Five Elders

Spoiler

for now i can't say much about them , other than that , one of them owns one of the 12 Supreme Grade Blades like the former WSM Whitebeard and the current WSS Dracule Mihawk

• Commander in Chief Kong

Spoiler

being the former Fleet Admiral from Roger's era , i think he deserves to have a real strong DF like the current Admirals do , i think Sun Wukong Mythical Zoan would fit him :

this could be the strongest Zoan imo , yes maybe even stronger than Kaido's Dragon or Sengoku's Buddha , just read Sun Wukong's powers , he could :

• have insane physical strength ( no brainer , definitely this DF will grant Kong that )

• travel extremely fast

• transform into 72 animals

etc.

• Cipher Pol "Aigis" Zero

Spoiler

recently described as "the World's Most Powerful Intelligence Agency"

• Mariejois National Treasure

Spoiler

here Doflamingo implied it is so strong that it could help him and the rest of Donquixote Pirates "to seize true world power"

i think this is actually Uranus , so Imu is owning it , basically .

i think these 3 major players will have the 3 Ancient Weapons :

• Imu - Uranus , which is likely the strongest Ancient Weapon due to how mysterious it is in my opinion , plus Imu ( i think ) is the Final Villain so this fits

• Luffy - Poseidon/Shirahoshi

• Teach - Pluton

 

[R A I T E I I I]

If the final war isn’t a crazy 3 dimensional battle between Blackbeard, im and Luffy then it has no Chance of surpassing the wano war which has:
- an alliance between kaido & LinLin
- beast pirates & 2 thirds of big mom pirates strength
- most of the supernova
- the samurai
- potential the marines after the raid fails completely
- cp 0
- Luffy and his alliance in king minks and Whitebeard pirates


and if the final war will be a war between those three fractions then...Luffy VS Blackbeard should be the final fight or Luffy vs im if not the first.

sakazuki is irrelevant really.

Its not about how many randoms u can manage to put in one arc.

My thoughts on the thread are that its gonna be Imu

 

[stealthblack]

Im & akainu.

akainu marked him with the treasure chest X perma scar target. luffy is akainu's treasure

 

[vikas]

Some kind of giant mecha robot, which all characters fight. But luffy gets the shine

 

[R A I T E I I I]

It doesn't make Imu a fighter tho, that scene makes the Gorosei more as fighters than Imu acting as his personal guards, kind of like CP9 and Spandam but a more serious Spandam with some special ability maybe.

Imu maybe at best just has some special ability like Luffy/Momo hearing voices or something.

Hes the ultimate level fighter. If he wasn't there would be no way the WG can stay on the top for this long

 

[Windfall Island]

Glad to see Imu winning in the polls by far. BB will be final villan before raftel.

Imu in all likelihood defeated joyboy 800 years ago & won the 100 year war vs 3 Ancient weapons,Ancient Kingdom & joyboy by himself leading the 20 kings and has joyboy's straw hat as a winning trophy.

No one else comes even close to such feats.

 

[Jailer]

Hes the ultimate level fighter. If he wasn't there would be no way the WG can stay on the top for this long

Or the WG exists due to him having a special ability and the WG exists thanks to him and the Gorosei.

 

[R A I T E I I I]

Or the WG exists due to him having a special ability and the WG exists thanks to him and the Gorosei.

In my opinion Imu being a fighter is undebatable.
Out of the 5 Gorosei, none is above other. That means that Luffy won't fight them. And rather face the leader (Imu). Akainu has to follow Goroseis orders so I don't see that either.

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

Blackbeard.

 

[Finalbeta]

I think it's quite possibly Imu but that would depend on a few notions:

Was Joy Boy the first D.?
Is Luffy the man destined to establish order?
Is Im the one who had overthrown Joy or at least a descendant of some sort?

After all Im looks like someone that can keep controlling the world outside unless stopped in some way. But that doesn't necessarily mean in a 1 on 1 either, yet this is a Shonen.

I would specifically like to add that Luffy remains a Pirate, and as such pirates are ultimately not the only objectives a Pirate has to confront and the Marine comes into play, which is factually merely the right arm of a more global organization = the WG. In other words if Luffy or whoever defeat Akainu and Blackbeard, the story may still feel not fully baked.

 

[MarineHQ]

Thing is Akainu can be the strongest top tier rn, that would still make him too basic of a follow up to Teach if the battle were to be an honest one. What you need in an EOS villain isn't some run of the mill top tier, but an unprecedented opponent who very clearly stands head and shoulders above the rest. Akainu is just one of the pack, just like Kaidou or anyone else for that matter.

There are too many open variables we don't know yet to make such a judgment. I'm not sure if Luffy will traditionally 1v1 BB thinking about how broken BB will end up being. In my opinion, Luffy will not be stronger than BB after leaving the fight, just like against Kaido or most of his enemies he faced thus far.

But this isn't a boxing bout, anything is fair game, so there are still options here to build tension. Power scaling def matters here, and it would to Oda as well, because you can't go from a grand battle with Teach back down to a traditional top tier. I don't see Akainu getting any major powerups like Teach, so if the battle does take place after Teach's, it's possible the confrontation is a very dirty one, where Akainu has some advantages off the jump. Which I wouldn't mind, it would make him an even greater villain, and go in line with his character which is absolute justice, terminate evil at all costs. We might be due for some of the most ruthless scenes in One Piece, and that could be just as satisfying if not more than the battle with Teach.

I think what matters the most in an EOS battle is the clash of ideologies, especially in OP. Luffy and Teach are two sides of the same coin, both value freedom over anything with Teach being an extremist who gets corrupted by power thinking he has the right to do anything just because he can. I would say that Akainu fits much more as the antithesis of Luffy.

I personally think that Akainu and Blackbeard are personal fights that Luffy has to get through at some point and I think the chapter that presented Akainu and BB as the new biggest threats for Luffy was foreshadowing that.
Sure, if Powerscaling is an issue Akainu can also lose against Luffy before he fights BB, I don't have an issue with that.

The fact that he has the Gorosei (who are clearly fighters) groveling at his feet is a good enough argument for him to be a fighter.

It isn't. There could be a million other reasons why they fear his authority. He could have God-like abilities and still no be a fighter. Kaguya from Naruto also wasn't a fighter to me.

 

[RayanOO]

There are too many open variables we don't know yet to make such a judgment. I'm not sure if Luffy will traditionally 1v1 BB thinking about how broken BB will end up being. In my opinion, Luffy will not be stronger than BB after leaving the fight, just like against Kaido or most of his enemies he faced thus far.


I think what matters the most in an EOS battle is the clash of ideologies, especially in OP. Luffy and Teach are two sides of the same coin, both value freedom over anything with Teach being an extremist who gets corrupted by power thinking he has the right to do anything just because he can. I would say that Akainu fits much more as the antithesis of Luffy.

I personally think that Akainu and Blackbeard are personal fights that Luffy has to get through at some point and I think the chapter that presented Akainu and BB as the new biggest threats for Luffy was foreshadowing that.
Sure, if Powerscaling is an issue Akainu can also lose against Luffy before he fights BB, I don't have an issue with that.

It isn't. There could be a million other reasons why they fear his authority. He could have God-like abilities and still no be a fighter. Kaguya from Naruto also wasn't a fighter to me.

I think Luffy vs Akainu wouldn’t be the best clash of ideologies.

I prefer a Dragon vs Akainu or a Fujitora vs Akainu.

 

[WesMidnight]

*Laugh Tale
Reread/rewatch WB's last speech, he lays out the sequence of events. Become PK-> take on WG
So Luffy will beat Blackbeard, fully overcoming all of the hostile yonko (Luffy has made this clear since Punk Hazard), as well as finding the One Piece.
Once he finds One Piece he will know the secrets of the world, and as WB said, the man Roger was waiting for, will take on the WG- that includes the hidden forces and puppet masters the Gorosei/ Imu which have privately shit talked Akainu saying his face means only slightly more than nothing to them.
So Imu it will be.

 

[MarineHQ]

I think Luffy vs Akainu wouldn’t be the best clash of ideologies.

I prefer a Dragon vs Akainu or a Fujitora vs Akainu.

I'd agree, but Dragon seems to have no interest in fighting the marines. He's all against the Celestial Dragon's, as for Fuji, we already had the clash of ideologies between Admirals and personality + power wise Kuzan was the best opposition to Akainu. Don't think it'll happen again.

 

[RayanOO]

I'd agree, but Dragon seems to have no interest in fighting the marines. He's all against the Celestial Dragon's, as for Fuji, we already had the clash of ideologies between Admirals and personality + power wise Kuzan was the best opposition to Akainu. Don't think it'll happen again.

yeah I think Dragon is more likely to fight the CP0 leader than Akainu.

But I think it can be fun to have Sabo and Fujitora taking turns on Akainu. Those two who fought each other twice are now « ally » and fight against Aka.

I don’t want Akainu to be wasted on Luffy. Luffy and Akainu cannot understand each other, there won’t ever see each other eye to eye.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Oh god are you guys making new Orochi out if Imu?