One Piece Chapter 963 Spoilers Discussion

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1. Brook's "soul king" is an epithet he got when he wasn't being a pirate, that was his name when he was doing concerts.
2. Hancock is known as the Pirate Empress, because she's the current Empress of Amazon Lilly.

Rayleigh is known as Roger's Right Hand, yes. Is that all of Rayleigh's hype and portrayal? No.

- Considered to be of the same threat level as the strongest of the Emperors, by Garp The Hero
- Fought Kizaru on par after not having picked up the sword in years

If Whitebeard mid-diffs Oden, that means there's a huge gap between them. If Whitebeard, high-diffs Oden, that means there's a decent gap between them. So what do you mean it doesn't matter here? Loll.

- No people don't remember he sailed with Roger. Only veteran marines like Sengoku, who kept great Intel, knew he accompanied the Pirate King on his last voyage to Raftel.

Strawhats knew Rayleigh by name.



Same strawhats had no idea about Oden & relation to Roger.



Sakazuki, the current Fleet Admiral, only knew Oden as being one of the division commanders of Whitebeard's crew:

It was Sengoku, a veteran marine, who kept great intel, who let him know that Oden accompanied Roger to the final voyage:




The guy who Roger called his "partner" vs a mere division commander. Do tell me how you logically find them to be even comparable. If Oden was some great super duper top tier that could challenge the big dogs of that era, he wouldn't just be known as a mere division commander on Whitebeard's ship.. Especially if he was on par with Rayleigh.
Partner crap... kidd calls Kiler partner
Doesnt mean they are equal.
WB had sons not partners nor whatever
BM has biological sons not partners.

Rayleigh is mentioned in books coz he was part of roger crew .
Take away Roger... what makes Rayleigh relevant and famous? None.
Oden on his own has a name and legendary feats.

Once again
Rayleigh is nothing without Roger name backing him up! That's just fact.
Oden is something without WB/roger name...

WB already hyped Oden who wasnt even his future commander.
I forgot Oden himself proposed to sail on WB ship!
WB didnt even defeat him yet! And Oden isn't shown weaker than WB yet.
 
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How did he scar Kaido then
Lol I'm just typing a certain user argument
Stop asking me a dumb question when you know my stance about Oden being top tier before even this chapter dropped.
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How did he teleport from the chateau to the edge of WCI to protect Pedro and then teleports back to the chateau where we see him when he here's about Pedro dying
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He's top tier... Freaking admirals couldn't kill Kaido when they had him arrested and Oden cut this man in combat
Are you guys even serious now?

The irony is that all of you guys trolled and denied Oden being top tier when I said it and now you wanna defend and state Oden is Top tier

Anyway, my post is clearly a troll
Someone said Oden isnt top tier coz he was a commander
 

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Zoro Worshipper
Lol I'm just typing a certain user argument
Stop asking me a dumb question when you know my stance about Oden being top tier before even this chapter dropped.
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Are you guys even serious now?

The irony is that all of you guys trolled and denied Oden being top tier when I said it and now you wanna defend and state Oden is Top tier

Anyway, my post is clearly a troll
Someone said Oden isnt top tier coz he was a commander
I don't read most of your comments so I didn't know. No offence xd
 
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:giogio:if someone quotes my post and cant even realise the Lol at the end .

Before writing learn to know why I wrote that comment even
 
I don't see Yasuie being particularly strong. How he captured the Scabbards wasn't revealed, so saying that he soloed them is unproven conjecture.

Ashura appears to be the strongest samurai we have now (Kawamatsu could be equally strong, but he is not a Wanonian). And he is at best YC3. Judging by the story so far, only Ushimaru stands out as a potential strong person. Hyou was called a mighty blade, yet he doesn't look that strong.

Not exactly the bunch to be feared by Marines.
Ya0sie was in line for being Shogun.he still captured them thats what was seen. The Grandpa was said to be strong too whi trained Luffy.
 
Partner crap... kidd calls Kiler partner
Doesnt mean they are equal.
WB had sons not partners nor whatever
BM has biological sons not partners.

Rayleigh is mentioned in books coz he was part of roger crew .
Take away Roger... what makes Rayleigh relevant and famous? None.
Oden on his own has a name and legendary feats.

Once again
Rayleigh is nothing without Roger name backing him up! That's just fact.
Oden is something without WB/roger name...

WB already hyped Oden who wasnt even his future commander.
I forgot Oden himself proposed to sail on WB ship!
WB didnt even defeat him yet! And Oden isn't shown weaker than WB yet.
Kidd calls Killer partner, meaning they're fairly close in their power. That's how partnerships work. That was hype for Killer.

That's why nobody on WB's crew has the same hype as Rayleigh. That's why nobody in BM's crew has even half of Rayleigh's hype.

What makes Rayleigh relevant and famous? The fact that he's somebody who possesses power enough to be considered of same threat level as the strongest Yonko.
 
Tell me that you honestly believe that Kaido was lying in front of all 3 admirals, chained up, while the admirals went all out on his body, but were not able to even scar him ?
Yup... Unless you honestly believe that Marine hq got called THE SIXTH TIME that Kaido was in custody and nothing was working on him and Sengoku or Kong were like "Nahhhh, keep trying, we don't have any admirals to spare on even ATTEMPTING to execute this unkillable rampaging dangerous man"
 
Elbaf hasn't been hyped similarly to Wano.
It is because the Wano arc was hyped since PH but it is a fact that Elbaf is the strongest country; two of the more powerful giants have shown an island lv feat, this gives the giants good portrayal.

Besides BM thinks that she can break the deadlock between her and Shanks by combining with Elbaf, which in my opinion, indirectly states that there is no top tier there.
Big Mom thought, having an alliance with Elbaf will make her powerful enough to defeat all Yonko; if this doesn't make Elbaf looks good then I don't really know what else should.
Besides, at first we thought as well that the strongest samurai in Wano wouldn't be top tier - at best YC1 - and now we have Oden who's a solid top tier. Hence I wouldn't exclude the possibility that Elbaf as a nation has AT LEAST a top tier or even two top tiers.
 
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Kidd calls Killer partner, meaning they're fairly close in their power. That's how partnerships work. That was hype for Killer.

That's why nobody on WB's crew has the same hype as Rayleigh. That's why nobody in BM's crew has even half of Rayleigh's hype.

What makes Rayleigh relevant and famous? The fact that he's somebody who possesses power enough to be considered of same threat level as the strongest Yonko.
It is not lol
Is Orochi now Kaido equal?
Is Joker now Newr Kaido?
Being partners doesn't mean equal or being near
It is more about great bond! Or having business deals.

WB added more hype on Oden
Roger gave Rayleigh hype

Pure facts... Rayleigh the best sidekick ever.

Considered same threat? Luckily just threat...in power was he close to even Yonko Teach?
Oden already made WB shook...

I will state something I've been stating for weeks, oda is using bullet idea on Oden,
I said I feared Oda will use WB to hype Oden...it happening.
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Oden might turn out to be equal to Prime Rayleigh.
At this rate it wont shock me anymore.

There is a reason why Rayleigh offered help in such respectful manner and didn't try forcing Oden evennafter he denied help.

For now Prime Rayleigh >= or > Prime Oden
Rayleigh is 99 while Oden 94-8 for now

I'm waiting for his meeting with Roger Rayleigh kaido to see where Oden clearly stood between him and Rayleigh and other admiral level dudes
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Tell me that you honestly believe that Kaido was lying in front of all 3 admirals, chained up, while the admirals went all out on his body, but were not able to even scar him ?
WB BM Navy all failed to scar Kaido.
Even Rookie Kaido fought against WB and BM
As Sengoku stated that they fought each other when they were on rocks ship.

Oden with Emma como is more lethal than admirals and their fruits, wb + bisento or BM and Her pwers
 
It is not lol
Is Orochi now Kaido equal?
Is Joker now Newr Kaido?
Being partners doesn't mean equal or being near
It is more about great bond! Or having business deals.

WB added more hype on Oden
Roger gave Rayleigh hype

Pure facts... Rayleigh the best sidekick ever.

Considered same threat? Luckily just threat...in power was he close to even Yonko Teach?
Oden already made WB shook...

I will state something I've been stating for weeks, oda is using bullet idea on Oden,
I said I feared Oda will use WB to hype Oden...it happening.
Now
Oden might turn out to be equal to Prime Rayleigh.
At this rate it wont shock me anymore.

There is a reason why Rayleigh offered help in such respectful manner and didn't try forcing Oden evennafter he denied help.

For now Prime Rayleigh >= or > Prime Oden
Rayleigh is 99 while Oden 94-8 for now

I'm waiting for his meeting with Roger Rayleigh kaido to see where Oden clearly stood between him and Rayleigh and other admiral level dudes
Can you give me a panel of Kaido considering Doflamingo & Orochi to be his "partners", in the same context Roger considered Rayleigh to be his partner & Kidd considers Killer to be his partner. Take your time.

I love you're repeating the same shit over and over, without countering anything. You're being hit in the face with hard facts, but yet you keep on the non-sense of "Rayleigh just best sidekick ever".



"Oda is using bullet idea on Oden".. So Oda is using one of the most idiotic ideas ever done by a movie, in his manga? :seriously:


Why would Rayleigh force Oden to accept his help, when it's got nothing to do with Rayleigh?? Like what're you talking about man, you're not making any sense. Is Rayleigh that desperate to help people out?
 
Lol I'm just typing a certain user argument
Stop asking me a dumb question when you know my stance about Oden being top tier before even this chapter dropped.
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Are you guys even serious now?

The irony is that all of you guys trolled and denied Oden being top tier when I said it and now you wanna defend and state Oden is Top tier

Anyway, my post is clearly a troll
Someone said Oden isnt top tier coz he was a commander
Are you responding to me?
 
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