General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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While clearly not a new Strawhat, the stage is set for Zeus to join Nami’s arsenal once again. Big Mom created Hera under Prometheus’s guidance to create a less clumsy and more loyal Homie.
Recent events show we will likely have a moment of the cloud heartbroken over his rejection and apologizing to Nami for his last attempted attack on her by his former master. The two will make up and be a team again. Predictable, but we all seen this coming chapters ago.
Recent events show we will likely have a moment of the cloud heartbroken over his rejection and apologizing to Nami for his last attempted attack on her by his former master. The two will make up and be a team again. Predictable, but we all seen this coming chapters ago.
Not that I want to say One Piece can get predictable, since it can really turn into an unpredictable, yet exciting roller coaster, I suppose that Nami mentioning that her cloud would have to be bigger in order to give Ulti a bigger electric shock would give enough reason to presume of Zeus rejoining her.
his words were 'none of them existed in my plot notebooks before that chapter'
Nah, I think Oda made it quite clear that figuring out the truth of the mystery behind the D clan is kinda delegated to the Law department xd or at least he's going to play major role in it. Oda even showed the guy hunting for the poneglyphs right in the middle of the raid to made a point. Also if Law stays away just to wait for Robin to bring him the news he won't have any screen time and I really don't see Oda doing that, especially when the story is about to end in a couple of years.
I'm not saying Law would abandon his crew, but he definitely has to stick with Luffy somehow after Wano ends, sending him on is own separate adventure wouldn't work.
I'm not saying Law would abandon his crew, but he definitely has to stick with Luffy somehow after Wano ends, sending him on is own separate adventure wouldn't work.
his words were 'none of them existed in my plot notebooks before that chapter'
But it sounds like posturing to me, I dont say it is but it might be, because its too much fluff in what hes saying there. He didnt think Law would become so huge? I wonder when he came up with Doflamingo and his crews concept, because Law was introduced as captain of the Heart Pirates with a rip off Donquixote Jolly Roger. Did he come up with Law being connected to DD in those 3 hours, while creating 8 other characters (some of who according to what he believed at that time, would be more successful). Bonney who he doesent even mention actually has the most plot points so far, connections to Whitebeard, Ace, Blackbeard, Government, Kuma...
I also think that hes singleing out Law in that interview is quite suspicious. I mean, you put him in the auction house and fight side by side with Luffy and Kid, why does it surprise you hes such success then? You make him come to Marineford to save Luffy. You make him a shichibukai. You give him a storyline (unlike any other SN so far), a flashback, a 1st name change (to fit the alphabet pattern conveniently. Probably doesent mean much but its worth noting that everyone so far fits it), make him present at Zou with the dukes explaining the path to Raftel, make him say now he wants to find the meaning of D. I mean, if you keep adding elements to a character each time he appears, chances are he will be successful
he said recently Doflamingo was not supposed to be a final boss but help Kaido in wano, so dressrosa was not an arc he originally was going to do I guess.
if doflamingo was not going to have his own arc Law could be connected to him and still not be a big character. Like bellamy.
i'm sure all of this happened after Oda already changed his plans for law. Dressrosa probably happened because law was too popular and to give him more focus
i think it is like:
1-law is created with a connection to doflamingo
2-doflamingo is going to be just one of Kaido's commanders
3-law becomes very popular and Oda decides to give him more focus after the timeskip
4-doflamingo gains his own arc because Oda wants to focus on Law
if doflamingo was not going to have his own arc Law could be connected to him and still not be a big character. Like bellamy.
i'm sure all of this happened after Oda already changed his plans for law. Dressrosa probably happened because law was too popular and to give him more focus
i think it is like:
1-law is created with a connection to doflamingo
2-doflamingo is going to be just one of Kaido's commanders
3-law becomes very popular and Oda decides to give him more focus after the timeskip
4-doflamingo gains his own arc because Oda wants to focus on Law
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I'm glad Doflamingo got his own arc as a villain, no matter the reason (we will probably never know why Oda changed his mind and at what time, maybe he decided on Doffy way before the time skip)
This. And giving him a mink as a crewmate is also suspicious xd. That's why I don't completely believe he was made on a whim in a couple of hours among the other supernovas and didn't even exist in Oda's notebooks as a concept.
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This. And giving him a mink as a crewmate is also suspicious xd. That's why I don't completely believe he was made on a whim in a couple of hours among the other supernovas and didn't even exist in Oda's notebooks as a concept.
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It could be all like you said, who really knows what Oda planned and what he later added. He says he has the strawhats from the begining. But Oda never intended to have the 7 shichibukai, and we got Robin out of one. Was she planned from the begining? Im not sure. Shes not in the early concept while Jinbe is. Then there is Klabautermann from the early concept who is nowhere to be seen now, even tho we actually saw him on Skypiea as ghost of the ship and never again later. And look how Jinbe was deleted from the early concept that was published, and only after he joined we got a picture with him....
About Law, Oda might have increased his role after his popularity grew, but to such a degree? He gets too much exposure imo, for a throwaway character. A whole arc about fulfilling the wish of his parental figure, getting such a large scale flashback. If what you say is true, Oda even expanded Doflamingos character and role becauuse of Law.
There is 2 characters that have had Strawhat qualities and vibe since the timeskip imo, Kinemon and Law. Both appeared 1st arc of the new world and are major part of the story for the past 350+ chapters, both have big flashbacks with tragic ends, you can ballpark a dream for both of them, related to the ones they lost (dawn, meaning of D), both are trying to defeat a monster tyrant, and accomplish what their dead master/parental figure failed at, and both put their full trust in Luffy doing it in their stead after they fought and failed. Kinemon even says to Kaido flat out Luffy will be at the top of the seas. Thats badass af, and incredible belief. And then you have both bound to something (crew/wife), which would naturally exclude them from Strawhat contention. So much building into them... And then Oda introduces Yamato, which is just too perfect a fit as the 10th to not join, but she just appeared like chapters ago. So who really knows what goes on in that mans head. Its fun to speculate i think, thats all
About Law, Oda might have increased his role after his popularity grew, but to such a degree? He gets too much exposure imo, for a throwaway character. A whole arc about fulfilling the wish of his parental figure, getting such a large scale flashback. If what you say is true, Oda even expanded Doflamingos character and role becauuse of Law.
There is 2 characters that have had Strawhat qualities and vibe since the timeskip imo, Kinemon and Law. Both appeared 1st arc of the new world and are major part of the story for the past 350+ chapters, both have big flashbacks with tragic ends, you can ballpark a dream for both of them, related to the ones they lost (dawn, meaning of D), both are trying to defeat a monster tyrant, and accomplish what their dead master/parental figure failed at, and both put their full trust in Luffy doing it in their stead after they fought and failed. Kinemon even says to Kaido flat out Luffy will be at the top of the seas. Thats badass af, and incredible belief. And then you have both bound to something (crew/wife), which would naturally exclude them from Strawhat contention. So much building into them... And then Oda introduces Yamato, which is just too perfect a fit as the 10th to not join, but she just appeared like chapters ago. So who really knows what goes on in that mans head. Its fun to speculate i think, thats all
Potential Strawhat / anyone with SH vibe, must be able to make SHP as their main loyalty.
This is why most SH are in detached/sole/detached position with their former / original communities, so that they can make Sunny & nakama as their home. Even if Franky & Jinbe love W7 & FI/Fishman Pirates so much, they're still written as someone unique among the communities.
Oda gives a prominent example of this (nakama must have SHP as main loyalty) with Vivi & her situation. She can't join SHP because her main loyalty is Alabasta.
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- Kinemon joining SH is low in chance because he worship/obliged to Wano.
- Law can join if he gets Jinbe treatment from his crew (pursuing D meaning)
- Yamato high chance of joining because she's incompatible with BP/Onigashima
This is why most SH are in detached/sole/detached position with their former / original communities, so that they can make Sunny & nakama as their home. Even if Franky & Jinbe love W7 & FI/Fishman Pirates so much, they're still written as someone unique among the communities.
Oda gives a prominent example of this (nakama must have SHP as main loyalty) with Vivi & her situation. She can't join SHP because her main loyalty is Alabasta.
Now
- Kinemon joining SH is low in chance because he worship/obliged to Wano.
- Law can join if he gets Jinbe treatment from his crew (pursuing D meaning)
- Yamato high chance of joining because she's incompatible with BP/Onigashima
I suppose Chapter 983 could be set up for Yamato to become another combatant for Luffy, after he was struggling a bit in trying to defeat Page and Ulti and him risking using up too much energy too quickly just to defeat them, and that Zoro and the others couldn’t be there to back him up.
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I suppose Chapter 983 could be set up for Yamato to become another combatant for Luffy, after he was struggling a bit in trying to defeat Page and Ulti and him risking using up too much energy too quickly just do defeat them, and that Zoro and the others couldn’t be there to back him up.
Might have been temporary, but Yamato knocked Ulti on her ass with that attack alone...considering how far most of the SHP are behind their captain, having her on the crew would help the power balance immensely
I personally think Yamato is the final member.
BB pirates have 1 more core crew member than SHs so theres only spot left .Like Oden itd make sense for her travel with the future PK. Plus the crew is a fucking sasuage fest.
The only point against Yamato, and any other front runners for last Nakama position, is that I cant think of a role for them to play in the crew. I thought Oda was done with it with Brooke and Jinbei had no obvious position to fill until he was revealed to be a helmsman. If Yamato is joining then her role hasnt been revealed yet.
BB pirates have 1 more core crew member than SHs so theres only spot left .Like Oden itd make sense for her travel with the future PK. Plus the crew is a fucking sasuage fest.
The only point against Yamato, and any other front runners for last Nakama position, is that I cant think of a role for them to play in the crew. I thought Oda was done with it with Brooke and Jinbei had no obvious position to fill until he was revealed to be a helmsman. If Yamato is joining then her role hasnt been revealed yet.
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