General & Others Proof Zoro>Luffy, and that hate against Zoro is at an all time high.

[Kromage911]

Luffy :
I can't be better than a cook or a navigator someone who Oda gave a job in the ship .

At least, mention the entire quote.

"Of course I don't know anything about swords. I can't navigate, I can't cook, I can't even lie! I know I need friends to help me if I want to get ahead in life. But there's one thing I can do, I can beat you!"

He literally mentioned Zoro as a swordsman. He didn't say 'I can't fight' lol.

Also, Luffy didn't say that the straw hats are better at their job. It's that he literally doesn't know any other job. He said 'I can't navigate' and not 'Nami is better than me at navigation'. On the other hand, he is a fighter and knows to fight, unlike the other jobs. Give me one quote where Luffy or anyone else says that Zoro is the better fighter.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Of course I don't know anything about swords. I can't navigate, I can't cook, I can't even lie! I know I need friends to help me if I want to get ahead in life. But there's one thing I can do, I can beat you!"

Usopp : liar
So usopp's job is a liar isn't sniper unless you want us to believe that Luffy is a better sniper than Usopp
Manga :
Who is better between a Fighter and a swordman ?
• Manga :
Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .
• Oda :
°°° Zoro is a fighter while Luffy is also a fighter :
- Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy which answers the question .

Also, Lucky Roo is the combatant of Shank’s crew.
Are we saying Lucky Roo > Shanks.

cmon bruh

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Zoro literally has the same title as Lucky Roo.

Bring us where does it state that Shanks isn't better than others in their job like luffy stated

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Usopp : liar
So usopp's job is a liar isn't sniper unless you want us to believe that Luffy is a better sniper than Usopp
Manga :
Who is better between a Fighter and a swordman ?
• Manga :
Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .
• Oda :
°°° Zoro is a fighter while Luffy is also a fighter :
- Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy which answers the question .

Bring us where does it state that Shanks isn't better than others in their job like luffy stated

Ay, if you wanna think Lucky Roo > Shanks then go for it.

 

[Kromage911]

Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .

Where is this said?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Don't give me ur headcanons here ; Oda is clear asf here :
• Manga :
Who is better between a Fighter and a swordman ?
• Manga :
Luffy isn't better than any Straw hats in that Job oda recognised for them .
• Oda :
°°° Zoro is a fighter while Luffy is also a fighter :
- Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy which answers the question .

You say CoA and CoO and this and that ;
Zoro clashed with Kaido in 20 seconds and scarred him for life while being nerfed and with a little stamina ; Kaido was mad and still respected him while he said you did enough and this scar would remain mean while Luffy couldn't even do that damage to Kaido who appeared Clean and disappointed in him he desrespected the fuck outta him lmao

Damn, I'm guessing that Zoro = Lucky Roo because Roo is a fighter according to Vivre Cards. And Sanji is parallel to Beckman who is > Lucky.


And Zoro couldn't knock Kaido down while Luffy does.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Ay, if you wanna think Lucky Roo > Shanks then go for it.

Give me where does it state that shanks isn't better than others in their fucking job like Luffy said we have this argument because luffy stated that don't give me your crap here

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Damn, I'm guessing that Zoro = Lucky Roo because Roo is a fighter according to Vivre Cards. And Sanji is parallel to Beckman who is > Lucky.


And Zoro couldn't knock Kaido down while Luffy does.

Yep. That’s what this “Zoro is the fighter argument” implies, since you can literally just swap Zoro out with Lucky.

 

[Kromage911]

because luffy stated that

Again, where is this said?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

If Zoro's role was a vice captain then it should shut the Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy arguments lol.

 

[Ravagerblade]

If Zoro's role was a vice captain then it should shut the Zoro is a better fighter than Luffy arguments lol.

Zorons can't handle that there's somebody younger than zoro but stronger than he is. Anything the zorons say is twisted from context or just outright lies. It's pitiful tbh...

 

[fanboy]

I will fix your title.

Sanji > Zoro > Luffy

 

[Fn Lucci]

And Zoro couldn't knock Kaido down while Luffy does.

Kaido the world's strongest... point fighter



Who the hell cares about that shit. Luffy brought his ass down with a Shoryuken and was feeling himself so much he even held the pose afterward. Still lost by a mile just now. Knocked down is not the same as being cut down, the point where pretty much everyone drops off of Zoro's radar for good.

Zorons can't handle that there's somebody younger than zoro but stronger than he is. Anything the zorons say is twisted from context or just outright lies. It's pitiful tbh...

That doesn't make any sense. 19 year old Luffy is like 30 times stronger than Zoro was at the same age. Luffy and Zoro will never change that trajectory no matter who ends up winning a fight between them as they are now, no one has denied that.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Again, where is this said?

I was dealing with Lanji now that i answered him it's ur time read the panel genius :
He Mentions Straw hats's jobs Cook and navigator and he said he needs a musician and a doctor why he mentions here the roles of each members and he even said they are helping him each one helps with a thing as a Role in ur genius mind ; Zoro's role is a fighter so Luffy who is captain should be better

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Yep. That’s what this “Zoro is the fighter argument” implies, since you can literally just swap Zoro out with Lucky.

Where is the statement of Shanks lacking in other aspects genius ? luffy said he is lacking asf to the point Arlong mocked him Where is this about Shanks

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Kaido the world's strongest... point fighter



Who the hell cares about that shit. Luffy brought his ass down with a Shoryuken and was feeling himself so much he even held the pose afterward. Still lost by a mile just now. Knocked down is not the same as being cut down, the point where pretty much everyone drops off of Zoro's radar for good.

That doesn't make any sense. 19 year old Luffy is like 30 times stronger than Zoro was at the same age. Luffy and Zoro will never change that trajectory no matter who ends up winning a fight between them as they are now, no one has denied that.

Bruh, Luffy is the only one that give Kaido excitement stated by Kaido himself.

 

[Kromage911]

I was dealing with Lanji now that i answered him it's ur time read the panel genius :
He Mentions Straw hats's jobs Cook and navigator and he said he needs a musician and a doctor why he mentions here the roles of each members and he even said they are helping him each one helps with a thing as a Role in ur genius mind ; Zoro's role is a fighter so Luffy who is captain should be better

But nowhere does Luffy say that he's worse than his crewmates at their job. He just says he needs help from them a lot of people as he can't navigate, cook or speak lies. Where does he say that he can't fight or that Zoro is the better fighter?

 

[Finalbeta]

It would be enticing to find out what kind of issues Luffy can stir against Zoro had he relied on his KKG, which is most likely substantially inferior to Hakai AP wise, but also relates on a bigger amount of physical strenght too most likely.

Healthy Zoro in Asura is probably good enough to one shot Luffy unless eventually standing in Tankman and even then I share a huge kettle of doubt. Shattered bones Zoro, also.

Asura Zoro looks faster than Base Luffy in action processing time and Base Zoro might be comparable, that's of course messed up Zoro. Not healthy one. Regardless Zoro's attack range is superior to Luffy's thanks to his flying slashes whilst Luffy can't rely on those.

To wrap it up, Asura Zoro would normally most likely speedblitz Luffy and one shot him, while Luffy's KKG should be tested against Zoro's defensive output. Regardless Zoro would probably not allow him to channel it.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Bruh, Luffy is the only one that give Kaido excitement stated by Kaido himself.

That's not an accurate translation but it wouldn't mean much if it was. Zoro was half dead when he hit Asura.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

But nowhere does Luffy say that he's worse than his crewmates at their job. He just says he needs help from them a lot of people as he can't navigate, cook or speak lies. Where does he say that he can't fight or that Zoro is the better fighter?

Headcanon.com
He went out to assemble a crew while needing a doctor and other members each one with a role
• Check again what luffy said they help him he can't live without their help he is this imcompetent . Even arlong laughed at him

What would Nami help luffy with ?
What would Usopp help luffy with ?
What would others help Luffy with ?

Usopp said Luffy needs help from each one and Luffy himself said he is useless and needs help so Zoro as a fighter you want him to sit down genius ?

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Whoever believes this thread is making a valid point is bordering stupidity.

Is Hammond stronger than Hody? Is Pekoms stronger than Big Mom? Is Dellinger stronger than Doflamingo? Is Lucky Roux stronger than Shanks? Is Mani stronger than Bellamy...? They are all officially addressed as combatants unlike their captains.

Luffy is the main character, solves problems through fighting, ends up being the one who takes down the strongest enemy in the arc, is quite literally becoming the chosen one in the big scheme of the world... Zoro isn't surpassing this, ever.

Use your brain for once, this fighting-based comic book for teens is way more simplistic than you guys think.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Whoever believes this thread is making a valid point is bordering stupidity.

Is Hammond stronger than Hody? Is Pekoms stronger than Big Mom? Is Dellinger stronger than Doflamingo? Is Lucky Roux stronger than Shanks? Is Mani stronger than Bellamy...? They are all officially addressed as combatants unlike their captains.

Luffy is the main character, solves problems through fighting, ends up being the one who takes down the strongest enemy in the arc, is quite literally becoming the chosen one in the big scheme of the world... Zoro isn't surpassing this, ever.

Use your brain for once, this fighting-based comic book for teens is way more simplistic than you guys think.

Wait, you're illustrating a difference between Luffy and Zoro by using Big Mom and Pekoms?