Powers & Abilities Admirals confirmed stronger than Mihawk? Need a translation on this.

#61
:rolaugh:
Zoro already above those trash commanders meanwhile Mihawk will fight an even stronger Zoro
I mean with broken bones overpowering hybrid Kaido and making a new scar like Oden means Zoro is top tier already and Mihawk will fight him :ultimoji:.
Anyways Mihawk haters are braindead clowns still using the Vista shit where Mihawk didn t even tried and soon they will get a reality check wano is the beginning
the truth hurts I know
Your boy was getting stalemated by a 4th yc
While the admirals were fighting whitebeard and one of them gave the strongest man in the world a blow that ultimately killed him

while mihawk couldn’t give vista a scratch 🤣
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#62
> Mihawk yonko commander level

An hypotethical 1 armed Mihawk is canonly stated to stand above Shanks;




Remember how extensively Kizaru hyped Benn also, it's debatable whom Benn is closer to, Kizaru or Shanks.

Mihawk is most likely much stronger than Kizaru, but Akainu should also be consistently stronger than Kizaru at this stage.

So to wrap it up odds wise:

Mihawk > Akainu > Kizaru ~ Shanks

A rough bet for now nevertheless.
 
#63
the truth hurts I know
Your boy was getting stalemated by a 4th yc
While the admirals were fighting whitebeard and one of them gave the strongest man in the world a blow that ultimately killed him

while mihawk couldn’t give vista a scratch 🤣
Mihawk is fighting Zoro bozo a stronger version of Zoro that in wano bodied Kaido 1v1 and made a new scar
Zoro already shits on Vista
Idk if u trolling
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#66
> Mihawk yonko commander level

An hypotethical 1 armed Mihawk is canonly stated to stand above Shanks;




Remember how extensively Kizaru hyped Benn also, it's debatable whom Benn is closer to, Kizaru or Shanks.

Mihawk is most likely much stronger than Kizaru, but Akainu should also be consistently stronger than Kizaru at this stage.

So to wrap it up odds wise:

Mihawk > Akainu > Kizaru ~ Shanks

A rough bet for now nevertheless.
@Gyro1987 this might help whomever legitimately thinks that Mihawk is that low.
 
#67
Again, the presence of a force like another yonko crew arriving is a big deal that must be taken into consideration. Akainu might hate pirates and everything but the sudden arrival of those other powerful individuals as an interference in that context of MF requires stopping to see what to actually do here and how to actually act (and he is not even the fleet admiral). And Akainu is certainly capable to do so as he is definitely not a bloodlusted beast only.

His time as the current fleet admiral only highlighted that aspect of him more.

His reaction was 100% understandable.

And the marines destroyed the WB pirates, despite Aokiji, Kizaru, Sengoku, Mihawk, Garp, Doflamingo doing very little (or straight up nothing) compared to what they could have and even having other warlords (Boa) actively working against them, with the WB pirates also being aided by Luffy's group (without it they woudn't have even freed Ace).
Understandable to a degree, Akainu had no problem erasing a marine like Coby (despite him being also Garp's disciple), also he is rebellious with the gorosei as well. Imo if he thought he had chances to beat Shanks he would have gone full out on Shanjs like he did with WB. It is true he was injured but there were also the other admirals. The point is thatnobody at that point had the confidence in take on Shanks and his snall elite yonko crew. There is not even Akainu protesting with Sengoku probably because he knew as well it was not the best option to attack Shanks at that point. Also if instead of Shanks it was Kaido (fresh like Shanks) to appear at Marineford (also why was it Shanks and not Kaido to arrive there?) then he would have most likely attacked the injured marines and maybe even the wrecked WB pirates.
 
#69
Lmfao do u read the manga?ofc he gonna fight zoro he s the wss and zoro wants that title oh so u aren t a troll just lacking brain
So you can’t prove it 😂
For all we know mihawk could lose against shiryu
And then zoro would fight shiryu

unless you can prove without a doubt that he’s fighting zoro then you have no point

mihawk is still equal to vista
 
#70
An hypotethical 1 armed Mihawk is canonly stated to stand above Shanks;
He is not. It's said that even with one arm, Mihawk's swordsmanship is of the "highest class". Class = tier. Swordsmanship (skill) =/= full power (including physical strength and Haki). It's just as the databook says that Vista's skill is equal or superior to Mihawk's. Which alone doesn't make you more powerful than Mihawk, who has among the strongest Hakis.
 
#72
:rolaugh:
So all u got is garbage headcanon meanwhile i got manga facts

Zoro vs Mihawk is set in stone
no it’s not
That was in the beginning of the manga
Things can change

Didn’t one character in alabasta said only 5 devil fruits can give you the ability to fly ???
but we know now that’s not true
That was also a manga fact 😂

just because a character says something doesn’t make it a fact

Mihawk still could lose his title to shiryu
I mean it would be consistent since we know Mihawk is at the commander level 🤣


Vista: knock knock
Mihawk: who’s there?
Vista: vista
Mihawk: oh shit 🤣
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#76
He is not. It's said that even with one arm, Mihawk's swordsmanship is of the "highest class". Class = tier. Swordsmanship (skill) =/= full power (including physical strength and Haki). It's just as the databook says that Vista's skill is equal or superior to Mihawk's. Which alone doesn't make you more powerful than Mihawk, who has among the strongest Hakis.
Skill and Swordsmanship are not supposed to stand as interchangeable terms from what we know, that would constitute a mistake.

Mihawk is labeled as world's strongest swordsman. A swordsman does bear swordsmanship, hence the most logical conclusion is that the dots are most likely connected that wise.
 
#77
no it’s not
That was in the beginning of the manga
Things can change

Didn’t one character in alabasta said only 5 devil fruits can give you the ability to fly ???
but we know now that’s not true
That was also a manga fact 😂

just because a character says something doesn’t make it a fact

Mihawk still could lose his title to shiryu
I mean it would be consistent since we know Mihawk is at the commander level 🤣


Vista: knock knock
Mihawk: who’s there?
Vista: vista
Mihawk: oh shit 🤣
Mihawk has the title
Zoro wants to beat Mihawk
500+ chapters later mr things change

so be a good dog and walk away because u got bodied
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#78
Skill and Swordsmanship are not supposed to stand as interchangeable terms from what we know, that would constitute a mistake.

Mihawk is labeled as world's strongest swordsman. A swordsman does bear swordsmanship, hence the most logical conclusion is that the dots are most likely connected that wise.
@Zowo what do you think of this personally man? Do you concur with the analysis?

 
#79
Understandable to a degree, Akainu had no problem erasing a marine like Coby (despite him being also Garp's disciple), also he is rebellious with the gorosei as well. Imo if he thought he had chances to beat Shanks he would have gone full out on Shanjs like he did with WB. It is true he was injured but there were also the other admirals. The point is thatnobody at that point had the confidence in take on Shanks and his snall elite yonko crew. There is not even Akainu protesting with Sengoku probably because he knew as well it was not the best option to attack Shanks at that point. Also if instead of Shanks it was Kaido (fresh like Shanks) to appear at Marineford (also why was it Shanks and not Kaido to arrive there?) then he would have most likely attacked the injured marines and maybe even the wrecked WB pirates.
We know that the WG :

•Wants a balance of the powers to be mantained. They were worried about it after WINNING against the WB pirates.

•Shanks has some kind of relationship with the WG and this might have had its influences. We also have Sengoku's sentence "only because it's you, Red Hair".

•The marines had already accomplished their objective and the one in charge (Sengoku) definitely cared about the cost of lifes.

•Let's say they fight. What if in the midst of this whole chaos (Red Hair Pirates, BB pirates, Marines), they lose an admiral, one of the ultimate military weapons through which the WG enforces his control over the majority of the rest of the world? What if another (or plus) force suddenly shows up to take advantage of the situation against the government? What if both things happen? What if the WG suddenly has to fight three forces against them? Does the WG wants a scenario like that?

•What about Dragon? What would he do? What cards would he decide to play against the WG?

And there are 100000 +1 other scenarios I could make.

The indication I have always reached from the manga is that Marines HQ + Warlords = 4 yonko crews (the balance of powers) and that the MF forces are WAY above a single Yonko crew. I think that @Van made a very good thread about this as well.

Anything else doesn't make the slightest of sense to me.

With the admirals and the emperors being relative in power by feats and story portrayal.

But well, to each their own.
 
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