Speculations If Luffy gets KO by Kaido again (4th time), should Zoro become the captain instead?
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The problem is Luffy is taking too many L's and "L"uffy fans are too sensitive at this point. 
If Zoro loses 3 times against Kaido the way Luffy did, imma start a thread and ask if Sanji should take over as vice-captain
@Finalbeta @nik87 would you?
If Zoro loses 3 times against Kaido the way Luffy did, imma start a thread and ask if Sanji should take over as vice-captain
@Finalbeta @nik87 would you?
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So you are comparing Zoro fighting Mihawk with Luffy fighting Arlong. Zoro fighting Kuma with Luffy fighting Moria. Zoro fighting Kizaru with Luffy not even fighting him. Zoro tanking Hakai with Luffy getting knocked out. Are you sure you want to continue?
You have a point, usually he spends the rest of the arc without doing much but basically because he just did enough until there, more than everybody else. You will say goodbye to logic only if Zoro gets healed from "broken bones"(so far Law said that shit but when he had time to verify? I didn't see and no one with broken bones would do what Zoro did. Makes no sense)? Zoro getting healed would be asspull for sure, but logic has gone way before at Katakuri fight, Luffy getting advanced CoC after being knock out, Kaido still beating Luffy Gear Plot Armor Activated.
What I think is that Zoro won't do nothing until the Onigashima battle ends, and he will have Shusui back to fight another time against Kaido and win this time without being nerfed by Enma.
You have a point, usually he spends the rest of the arc without doing much but basically because he just did enough until there, more than everybody else. You will say goodbye to logic only if Zoro gets healed from "broken bones"(so far Law said that shit but when he had time to verify? I didn't see and no one with broken bones would do what Zoro did. Makes no sense)? Zoro getting healed would be asspull for sure, but logic has gone way before at Katakuri fight, Luffy getting advanced CoC after being knock out, Kaido still beating Luffy Gear Plot Armor Activated.
What I think is that Zoro won't do nothing until the Onigashima battle ends, and he will have Shusui back to fight another time against Kaido and win this time without being nerfed by Enma.
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The problem is Luffy is taking too many L's and "L"uffy fans are too sensitive at this point.
If Zoro loses 3 times against Kaido the way Luffy did, imma start a thread and ask if Sanji should take over as vice-captain
@Finalbeta @nik87 would you?
If Zoro loses 3 times against Kaido the way Luffy did, imma start a thread and ask if Sanji should take over as vice-captain
@Finalbeta @nik87 would you?
Luffy is a low-key smart businessman.
He only needed to save zoro one time from the marine, in return he gets his ass saved many times back by zoro.
What other better investments are out there?
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I will never forget when haki luffy got out-powered by gifter batman's haki.
It's so embarrassing I literally laughed when I watched the animation.
He only needed to save zoro one time from the marine, in return he gets his ass saved many times back by zoro.
What other better investments are out there?
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I will never forget when haki luffy got out-powered by gifter batman's haki.
It's so embarrassing I literally laughed when I watched the animation.
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Well first of all it wasn't a no-diff, and it wasn't a 1:1 either. Zolo completely lacks mobility, the only reason he was able to cut down Pica at that time was because Orlumbus gave him a lift.
As for Luffy getting knocked out by Apoo? Yes, in Base Form, Luffy was knocked out by Apoo. That's not a diss on Luffy, we already know based on his fight with Katakuri how much of an endurance monster Luffy is, that's a compliment to Apoo for being able to do that.
Anyways, my main point here is that Oda gives Luffy proper development with fights every arc. For somebody aiming to be world's best, Zolo has only had 1 PROPER fight this entire timeskip before he fought Kaido which is abysmmal and shows once again that Oda doesn't give 2 craps about Zolo's development as a fighter.
As for Luffy getting knocked out by Apoo? Yes, in Base Form, Luffy was knocked out by Apoo. That's not a diss on Luffy, we already know based on his fight with Katakuri how much of an endurance monster Luffy is, that's a compliment to Apoo for being able to do that.
Anyways, my main point here is that Oda gives Luffy proper development with fights every arc. For somebody aiming to be world's best, Zolo has only had 1 PROPER fight this entire timeskip before he fought Kaido which is abysmmal and shows once again that Oda doesn't give 2 craps about Zolo's development as a fighter.
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Orlumbus didn't helped Zoro defeat Pica. He helped Zoro save everybody Pica was ready to kill. Only that. Zoro would have cut down Pica the same way if he just walked to him. It was NO DIFF and 1v1. Pica did absolute nothing against him.
Not a diss on Luffy? Apoo knocked out Luffy, Zoro knocked out Apoo. Zoro > Luffy once again another proof. Literally any random character can have some feats on Luffy because he is such a garbage. And stop that base form Luffy non-sense, he can only use advanced haki on base form(at least armament and conqueror so far).
Oda gives Luffy illogical L's therefore his W's are illogical too.
Not a diss on Luffy? Apoo knocked out Luffy, Zoro knocked out Apoo. Zoro > Luffy once again another proof. Literally any random character can have some feats on Luffy because he is such a garbage. And stop that base form Luffy non-sense, he can only use advanced haki on base form(at least armament and conqueror so far).
Oda gives Luffy illogical L's therefore his W's are illogical too.
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Orlumbus threw Zolo into Pica, Orlumbus is literally the reason Zolo was able to close-distance because he himself is rather immobile. Go read the fight I shouldn't have to post panels, it's right there.
And no, it's not a diss on Luffy, we already know Luffy even in Base form has high-endurance, he took a beating from Katakuri and Cracker for over 11 hours each, so him getting knocked out by Apoo for a few moments is more of a testament to Apoo. As for Zolo "1-shotting" Apoo, Apoo was distracted fighting X-Drake and even then Apoo got up afterwards.
I don't know how you guys can say this when Zolo is literally a vegetable rn
And no, it's not a diss on Luffy, we already know Luffy even in Base form has high-endurance, he took a beating from Katakuri and Cracker for over 11 hours each, so him getting knocked out by Apoo for a few moments is more of a testament to Apoo. As for Zolo "1-shotting" Apoo, Apoo was distracted fighting X-Drake and even then Apoo got up afterwards.
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Zoro wasn't in dange about Pica. Usopp and others were. Orlumbus helped saved them, Zoro never need him to defeat Pica only to save everybody. You are full of bullshit just by bringing that up.
The "high-endurance" Luffy that got knocked out by BM random army, one-shotted Kaido and almost two-shotted by Apoo. Apoo get up after Zoro one-shotting but so as Luffy after being two-shotted by Apoo and one-shotted by Kaido. Apoo was initially fighting both Zoro and X-Drake so off guard excuses (the worst ones) doesn't count.
Luffy don't have high endurance he has high plot armor.
The "high-endurance" Luffy that got knocked out by BM random army, one-shotted Kaido and almost two-shotted by Apoo. Apoo get up after Zoro one-shotting but so as Luffy after being two-shotted by Apoo and one-shotted by Kaido. Apoo was initially fighting both Zoro and X-Drake so off guard excuses (the worst ones) doesn't count.
Luffy don't have high endurance he has high plot armor.