General & Others Proof Zoro>Luffy, and that hate against Zoro is at an all time high.

[Orojackson Refugee]

No You don't tell "manga fact" because whatever you say gets twisted.
Why would I say that if it weren't true. You think I write because I want too. Get over yourself.
You can't handle when you're being told you're boy had an asspull, Then don't talk about Luffy having an "asspull"... Double standards must be your forte.

^ Ad hominem
Come back when you have proper rebuttals rather than just being bitter

 

[Ravagerblade]

^ Ad hominem
Come back when you have proper rebuttals rather than just being bitter

I've told you before, But you keep ignoring it in favor of bullshit reasoning. You can't accept it for some odd reason.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

I've told you before, But you keep ignoring it in favor of bullshit reasoning. You can't accept it for some odd reason.

Another ad hominem.
You can keep your photo to yourself.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Another ad hominem.
You can keep your photo to yourself.

You just proved my point. So Ironic. You again ignored my reasonings and instead trying to play the smart guy.
Oh no, This is a picture of you. Your boyfriend Nik gave it to me, better tell him to piss off.
If you're going to continue to be unreasonable, Fuck off.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

You just proved my point. So Ironic. You again ignored my reasonings and instead trying to play the smart guy.
Oh no, This is a picture of you. Your boyfriend Nik gave it to me, better tell him to piss off.
If you're going to continue to be unreasonable, Fuck off.

i didn't ignore your "reasonings". I already gave rebuttals. Then you got salty and started whining about me. Not my fault that you get hurt easily

 

[Ravagerblade]

i didn't ignore your "reasonings". I already gave rebuttals. Then you got salty and started whining about me. Not my fault that you get hurt easily

and I've dismissed your "rebuttals" as twisting actual facts. You're then just as guilty.

You cannot sit there and tell me Luffy has done a bad job etc, all the while Hyping Zoro up.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

Nik gave it to me, better tell him to piss off.

@nik87 lives rent free in your head

 

[Ravagerblade]

@nik87 lives rent free in your head

That's Ironic when most of you love calling me names, I must live rent free in all your heads...
Still see that you can't be reasonable. To be expected from you. Y'all live in a fantasy world.

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

and I've dismissed your "rebuttals" as twisting actual facts. You're then just as guilty.

You cannot sit there and tell me Luffy has done a bad job etc, all the while Hyping Zoro up.

"dismiss"

Why would I say that if it weren't true.

"Whatever i said must be true!"

What an argument.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Indeed. The concept is probably still not clear.

Luffy knocked Kaido down because he could rely on a bigger mass force than Zoro did. That's not Zoro's forte, the F = mxa kind of Force, he is more a lethality type, this is not too different from comparing Garp and Akainu except for different ratio and type of style.

Does Kaido have any bruises on him after getting punched in the face?
Any broken teeth?
Luffy wanted to break his scales, how many scales has he broken so far?
Does Kaido have a broken bone?

Luffy has LITERALLY done fuck all to Kaido despite literally getting Kaido with massive open wound served on a silver platter by Zoro after Zoro literally saved his ass million times from dying horrible death.

Luffy started his pirate journey with a silver spoon and that silver spoon is Zoro and Luffy still failed to get his job done.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Imagine comparing brute force etc and expecting to see the same damage a cut would do....
Smoothbrain doesn't even begin to compare to the level of idiocy.

 

[Finalbeta]

False, and twisting what actually happened to fit your narrative.
Luffy Pre Udon Hurt Kaidou.
Zoro had to have Enma to do any damage. Without that little asspull Your boi was looking like shit.

Enma the presumable training tool.

 

[Sigran101]

Which would these fanfictions costituite of? And why generalizing in the first place.

I'm going to respond to you instead of the others because you had the courtesy to not reply with a wall of text. I think I would characterize "fanfiction" as thinking Zoro is stronger than Luffy despite Luffy being the captain and the main character, especially considering he always fights the strongest opponent instead of Zoro. Some people take it farther and say he could 1v1 or even one shot Kaido. Basically the majority of the Zoro fans I've interacted with think he's Yonko level, and at the upper end of Yonko level at that.. I would say anyone who thinks he is below YC1 is also kidding themselves. Imo he's about the level of Marco, sort of in between YC1 and Yonko and just slightly under Luffy, though the gap widened with Luffy's new power up. I guess I shouldn't generalize because there are reasonable Zoro fans,it just seems like they're few and far between.

 

[Finalbeta]

I'm going to respond to you instead of the others because you had the courtesy to not reply with a wall of text. I think I would characterize "fanfiction" as thinking Zoro is stronger than Luffy despite Luffy being the captain and the main character, especially considering he always fights the strongest opponent instead of Zoro. Some people take it farther and say he could 1v1 or even one shot Kaido. Basically the majority of the Zoro fans I've interacted with think he's Yonko level, and at the upper end of Yonko level at that.. I would say anyone who thinks he is below YC1 is also kidding themselves. Imo he's about the level of Marco, sort of in between YC1 and Yonko and just slightly under Luffy, though the gap widened with Luffy's new power up. I guess I shouldn't generalize because there are reasonable Zoro fans,it just seems like they're few and far between.

I can comprehend that Luffy is the MC but Oda has been constant in portraying them close in power. First Whisky Peak, then we had Enies Lobby Zoro showing massive superiority over Kaku, and Luffy himself would have probably needed mid difficulty to strike him down with his G2 unless he relied on his G3, and even then Zoro's Asura possibly didn't look to stand below, it still one shot someone who was pretty much healthy. G3 also not very rapid in execution time so avoidable if not underestimated. Then we have this Wano patterns and all the superlative feats from Zoro. I made my case many times about those.

So in my personal book, close is the better term.

 

[nik87]

Zoro is the one who is fighting a tougher opponent.
Luffybros is this really how it is supposed to work?

 

[Tai long]

Zoro is the one who is fighting a tougher opponent.
Luffybros is this really how it is supposed to work?

lmao all of a sudden king his stronger than kaido, even if king is stronger than kaido, zoro is losing his fight while luffy is not losing his fight

 

[nik87]

lmao all of a sudden king his stronger than kaido, even if king is stronger than kaido, zoro is losing his fight while luffy is not losing his fight

Zoro is winning his fight and 15 people didnt help him like they helped Luffy. Luffybros...

 

[[No Name]]

So Lucky Roux as the combatant (same role of Zoro) of the Red Pirates is > Shanks and Benn according to your logic?

 

[Kiiro]

Zoro is near Luffy. Like Luffy 100 and Zoro 95%-90. Yet Zoro might have more lethal attacks, but as fighters they are near.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro is the one who is fighting a tougher opponent.
Luffybros is this really how it is supposed to work?

It's Zoro's nature to take on ginormously potent opponents but sadly deniers are never aware of such basic concept.