Chapter Discussion Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy

Oden is exactly like Luffy with a different fighting style.

1)Oden is obsessed with freedom like Luffy

2)Oden has Conquerors Haki like Luffy

3)Oden has Voice of All Things like Luffy

4) Oden has Charisma to attract allies like Luffy

5)Oden was age 19 when he took over Udon amd defeated Shutenmaru like, Luffy is age 19 right now taking out the Yonko.

6)Oden became Damaiyo at age 20, like Luffy will become Pirate King at age 20.

7) Oden has 9 Scabbards like Luffy has 9 Strawhats.

8) His favorite phrase " It;s too crampd" was said in Dressrossa by Luffy multiple times

9) Chapter 963- Oden is as impulsive as Luffy


Kozuki clan is 100% a secret D like Trafalgar Law's family.



Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy
Oden is who I expected Roger would be tbh

being a leader
being a MC of his own story
being able to hear everything
a man who want to see the world
a man made of freedom
a man Roger , Shanks , Whitebeard all love and respect

and fucking star eyes ...


among living Luffy is much more him that any one else
 
I don't get this, Of course Oden is a bit like Luffy but he's obviously NOT 100% Luffy...

He's also a loner which is makes him a bit like Zoro but he's obviously NOT 100% Zoro either...

He is clearly NOT 100% anyone and he has his own traits like being born a monster which no Strawhat was born a monster like that

He is his own character but he is also similar to both Zoro and luffy in many ways too and disimilar in other ways
What loner? He is with company usually and does this on his own like luffy style, not like Zoro.

Honestly majorly of Luffy, some with Sanji, while Zoro you can only try to get away with swordsmanship, but still no similarities in personality and traits to Zoro much. He is like more embodiment of M3 if I think about it.
 
What loner? He is with company usually and does this on his own like luffy style, not like Zoro.
You mean him constantly leaving without telling anyone and going off to do his own shit doesn't make him a loner? The man has abandoned his men at least five times in this one flashback and he ran off to have adventures for who knows how long with Whitebeard without telling his men and not knowing how long he will travel with whitebeard

Luffy is introduced literally looking for friends to join him in his journey and his entire flashback as a kid is him trying to befriend Ace and Sabo. Compare this to Oden who makes that dumb face when Kin'emon and Denjiro say they wanna follow him

Also being surrounded by people doesn't mean he isn't a loner... Zoro is surrounded by people but he's still a loner... We know even back before he joined the crew he was followed by Johny and yosaku even though he's still was still a loner then.
 
ok trump god moe im out have a good day
Zolo, please take your 'MAGA Agenda' somewhere else to who cares and stop bringing your real life beliefs.
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You mean him constantly leaving without telling anyone and going off to do his own shit doesn't make him a loner? The man has abandoned his men at least five times in this one flashback and he ran off to have adventures for who knows how long with Whitebeard without telling his men and not knowing how long he will travel with whitebeard

Luffy is introduced literally looking for friends to join him in his journey and his entire flashback as a kid is him trying to befriend Ace and Sabo. Compare this to Oden who makes that dumb face when Kin'emon and Denjiro say they wanna follow him

Also being surrounded by people doesn't mean he isn't a loner... Zoro is surrounded by people but he's still a loner... We know even back before he joined the crew he was followed by Johny and yosaku even though he's still was still a loner then.
Luffy is more like that honestly as he does go off his own more than Zoro does.

I give you that about surrounded by people, but still Oden is feeling more like Luffy each time we see him. Oden wanting to go on adventure is like Luffy and joining others is also Luffy's personality trait too.

Again not much traits for Zoro to squeeze in, just swordsmanship and that's it.
 
yooooo chopper and oden parallels:steef:
makes sense considering chopper will defeat jack this arc
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Zolo, get your political 4Kids ass away from me as not interested on what your trying to force upon on here.
4kids?

Bro, the official translation of one piece uses zolo. It has nothing to do with 4kids. 4kids is only responsible for the english anime dub, and they only used zolo because of the official translation of the manga.
 
makes sense considering chopper will defeat jack this arc


4kids?

Bro, the official translation of one piece uses zolo. It has nothing to do with 4kids. 4kids is only responsible for the english anime dub, and they only used zolo because of the official translation of the manga.
What have you been reading as translations call Zoro as Zoro, not Zolo. It has to do with 4kids, foo -.-...Do you not know reasons why Zoro got that name? It was because 4Kids overall that pushes it, not Oda or any official translations.
 
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What have you been reading as translations call Zoro as Zoro, not Zolo. It has to do with 4kids, foo -.-...Do you not know reasons why Zoro got that name? It was because 4Kids overall that pushes it, not Oda or any official translations.
No.
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000488

Here you can see the official translation of one piece from the official shueisha website.

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@True God Moe well, after researching this, i did find out that the first volumes of the english translation did have "zoro".

For explanation i have found:
1) 4kids
2) copyright issues with the popular character "zorro" (which funnily is zoros official name in the german translation)

So i guess you are not as wrong as i thought.

It is super wrong though to accuse people of your 4kids nonsense because the official english translation has used "zolo" ever since.
 
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No.
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000488

Here you can see the official translation of one piece from the official shueisha website.

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@True God Moe well, after researching this, i did find out that the first volumes of the english translation did have "zoro".

For explanation i have found:
1) 4kids
2) copyright issues with the popular character "zorro" (which funnily is zoros official name in the german translation)

So i guess you are not as wrong as i thought.

It is super wrong though to accuse people of your 4kids nonsense because the official english translation has used "zolo" ever since.
Your must reading wrong stuff then as every translations given around when we look on manga websites use Zoro, never Zolo, so Idk what your looking up, but that's clearly not the right one. Zolo name came from 4Kids, never was it Shueshia thing or Oda discuss about it.

Your only one with wrong facts here, not me. No one address Zoro as Zolo as you look at many formats. We always see 'Zoro' not Zolo. Why you fighting hard against that is obvious true?
 
Your must reading wrong stuff then as every translations given around when we look on manga websites use Zoro, never Zolo, so Idk what your looking up, but that's clearly not the right one. Zolo name came from 4Kids, never was it Shueshia thing or Oda discuss about it.

Your only one with wrong facts here, not me. No one address Zoro as Zolo as you look at many formats. We always see 'Zoro' not Zolo. Why you fighting hard against that is obvious true?
Manga websites are fan translations. I have literally posted the official shueisha website. The official translation is using "zolo".

This is a fact and fan translations are not relevant to this at all.
 
Then many have to be wrong including people who discuss them in Youtube, Twitter, Reddit, etc.. Since every last one of them been saying Zoro for years now, so yeah nice ego you have there to say your 'right' and majority is wrong as always you enforce.
This is not what i was saying. "Zoro" is obviously correct as well. "Zolo" is still a legitimate translation because of the L/R stuff i mentioned in the other thread.

Im not saying everyone should only use zolo because it is the best shit ever. But the official translation simply says "zolo", so stop denying this and stop putting words in my mouth.
 
Manga websites are fan translations. I have literally posted the official shueisha website. The official translation is using "zolo".

This is a fact and fan translations are not relevant to this at all.
Then many have to be wrong including people who discuss them in Youtube, Twitter, Reddit, etc.. Since every last one of them been saying Zoro for years now, so yeah nice ego you have there to say your 'right' and majority is wrong as always you enforce.
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This is not what i was saying. "Zoro" is obviously correct as well. "Zolo" is still a legitimate translation because of the L/R stuff i mentioned in the other thread.

Im not saying everyone should only use zolo because it is the best shit ever. But the official translation simply says "zolo", so stop denying this and stop putting words in my mouth.
From when I hear Zolo, people never said that was always true name of him unless your saying another name like from another country like how Luffy can be address as Luffy in other areas, then I can agree. Though Zoro's true name has always been Zoro, haven't heard anything on Oda or Shueshia it's truly Zolo or always meant as that.
 
Then many have to be wrong including people who discuss them in Youtube, Twitter, Reddit, etc.. Since every last one of them been saying Zoro for years now, so yeah nice ego you have there to say your 'right' and majority is wrong as always you enforce.
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From when I hear Zolo, people never said that was always true name of him unless your saying another name like from another country like how Luffy can be address as Luffy in other areas, then I can agree. Though Zoro's true name has always been Zoro, haven't heard anything on Oda or Shueshia it's truly Zolo or always meant as that.
I literally posted the link for the official shueisha.
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000488

I never said "zolo" was his "true name". Cant you stop lying?
 
I literally posted the link for the official shueisha.
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1000488

I never said "zolo" was his "true name". Cant you stop lying?
Dude, your hear arguing to me about the name situation when we discuss about Zoro and what he is actuality call. Again no one refers to him as Zolo at all even from other countries I haven't hear a name change on him being 'Zolo'. It's usually 4Kids that design that mindset, not something official about it.
 
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It's official for Americans, Moe. They call "Zoro" "Zolo" officially, VIZ is the official translation made by Shueisha itself


I don't know why they adopted "Zolo" as Zoro's official name but that's how it is.
I haven't seen anyone call Zolo that name since 4Kids era, so I think everyone see Zoro more truest name, but weird they actually went with that overall and not just 'Zoro'. Wonder why change the one letter like that?
 
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I haven't seen anyone call Zolo that name since 4Kids era, so I think everyone see Zoro more truest name, but weird they actually went with that overall and not just 'Zoro'. Wonder why change the one letter like that?
I saw someone saying on Reddit that it was because the pronunciation with "R" for Americans would be mouthful, so they decided to keep "L" instead of "R", but I don't know if VIZ has already confirmed if that's the reason they changed Zoro's name.
 
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