Chapter Discussion Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy

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Inspector_Mu

Navigation means to follow a plan to follow a certain route. Zoro has terrible navigation skills.



No the endurance shown by oden and his will reminded me more of Zoro.



I'm just saying they've fought similar opponents.
Navigation isnt what Zoro does by getting lost in foot
Oden hasn't been lost on foot

Stop trying to force stuff

Luffy has poor navigation skills too
So do most if Strawhats

His will reminded you of Zoro but not luffy? Who has bigger willpower than Zoro? Lol fanboyism at its best
 
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Shura

Navigation means to follow a plan to follow a certain route. Zoro has terrible navigation skills.
Dude...if you go that route, then Luffy himself "admitted" that he is not good at navigation just like Oden did....furthermore, navigation in this context clearly refers to the one Nami excels at because that is what required to sail on their own in seas.....

No the endurance shown by oden and his will reminded me more of Zoro.
More than endurance it looks like stubbornness/will power to me...and yeah Zoro has great endurance/will power just like Luffy but Luffy is more stubborn than Zoro....that scene of WBP cheering for Oden reminds me of ID prisoners practically cheering for the recovery of Luffy while having an excruciating treatment....

Also, you can say Oden is part Sanji when it comes to chivalry.....

Anyways my conclusion is Oden is with the personality of Luffy, skills of Zoro, chivalry of Sanji and at the same time he is unique of his own.....
 
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1)Oden is obsessed with freedom like Luffy
the excitement of Oden resembled early Chopper more than anything.

2)Oden has Conquerors Haki like Luffy
feels like 90% of high tiers have this anyways. not convincing.

3)Oden has Voice of All Things like Luffy
so does Momo. its a Kozuki family trait apparently.

4) Oden has Charisma to attract allies like Luffy
the way Oden attracts people to follow him is more like Zoro did with Yosaku and Johnny.
Luffy goes and seeks himself a crew. he determines who he wants to have in it. he recruits them.
Odens followers tagged along after seeing how strong/admirable he was. even when Oden himself did not want this.
he lets them choose on their own if they want to follow him or not.

5)Oden was age 19 when he took over Udon amd defeated Shutenmaru like, Luffy is age 19 right now taking out the Yonko.
reaching.

6)Oden became Damaiyo at age 20, like Luffy will become Pirate King at age 20.
more reaching

7) Oden has 9 Scabbards like Luffy has 9 Strawhats.
Luffys crew is not complete yet. Odens scabbards were.

8) His favorite phrase " It;s too crampd" was said in Dressrossa by Luffy multiple times
and never before nor after. it would be nice to see the context where this phrase is said by Luffy.

9) Chapter 963- Oden is as impulsive as Luffy
impulsiveness is not a trait that is exclusive to Luffy.


I gave this some thought too and at the end of the day Oden is Oden and thats its.
he shares some traits with SH crew members and in other cases he does not.
 

Finalbeta

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Imagine how low would it be from Oda to introduce the Enma plot and yet make Oden actually Luffy's parallel.

The thing is Oden is just Zoro's parallel and yet I wouldn't even call it parallel, it's just about resemblances. It is very different if we think about it.
 
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Inspector_Mu

the excitement of Oden resembled early Chopper more than anything.


feels like 90% of high tiers have this anyways. not convincing.


so does Momo. its a Kozuki family trait apparently.


the way Oden attracts people to follow him is more like Zoro did with Yosaku and Johnny.
Luffy goes and seeks himself a crew. he determines who he wants to have in it. he recruits them.
Odens followers tagged along after seeing how strong/admirable he was. even when Oden himself did not want this.
he lets them choose on their own if they want to follow him or not.


reaching.


more reaching


Luffys crew is not complete yet. Odens scabbards were.


and never before nor after. it would be nice to see the context where this phrase is said by Luffy.


impulsiveness is not a trait that is exclusive to Luffy.


I gave this some thought too and at the end of the day Oden is Oden and thats its.
he shares some traits with SH crew members and in other cases he does not.
Oden : samurai luffy Roger
No other person has both CoC and VoAT like these 3.

You dont need glasses to know that Oden is the middle gen version of Roger/Luffy
 
Good lord, I thought this thread would've died after the last chapter...

There is no way Oden is 100% Luffy, 100% Zoro, 100% Sanji etc.. Oden is Oden.. he shares fragments of characteristics of Luffy, Zoro and Sanji, but that's it.. he is his own individual character...

I thought it was obvious..
Even in chapter 964, there were signs that allude to that.


Page 12: Oden shares a similarity to Sanji.. Despite being miles away in the sea being dragged through the ocean, he hears a woman's cry for help, similar to Sanji... His beat-up face was also similar to Sanji when he was beaten up by his brothers in WCI. His chivalrous character is similar to Sanji's.

WB even says Oden "let go of his ambitions for the sake of a woman in need"


Page 13: Oden shares a similarity with Luffy, where Toki says Oden has fast recovery, and wonders if he's human at all... Luffy's rate of recovery has always been shown to be superhuman.... Oden even says "my adventure starts on this island" - something that Luffy would say. His pose is even similar to Luffy's.


Page 14: Oden shares a similarity to Zoro, where he is about to fight a six-sword style user, just like Zoro, who fought Hachi - a six sword style user - in Arlong Park.


Oden isn't 100% Luffy, Zoro, Sanji or whatever.
At best, one could even say Oden is an amalgamation of these three characters.

Didn't know Zoro can be this smiling..
What are you talking about?
Zoro smiles a lot.

 
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Nope, he is 100% Samurai Luffy. He has to many parallels to Luffy down to the Age of his achievements in Wano.

Oden is exactly what Luffy would be if he were to be born in Wano 100%.
 
Nope, he is 100% Samurai Luffy. He has to many parallels to Luffy down to the Age of his achievements in Wano.

Oden is exactly what Luffy would be if he were to be born in Wano 100%.
This became ridiculous. You're completely ignoring all the stuffs that has been told to you and keeps saying the same speeches and arguments, though they were debunked long ago. YOU EVEN SAYING THIS SHIT IN REDDIT IN EVERY FUCKING POST WITH ZORO, SANJI, LUFFY = ODEN. Either way, deny the reality all you want, i fear that no one ( but Ndule, of course ) takes you seriously.
 
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