General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?
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Zoro will be above Oden.
Oden was the only person to tame Enma, but Blackening it is a feat beyond him:
Zoro has already matched Oden by taming Enma and bringing it under control.
He's replicated Oden's greatest feat in scarring Kaido:
He'll surpass Oden by taking Kaido's head:
Or Blackening Enma:
(Or both).
Zoro's narrative is to surpass Oden, therefore he will.
You haven't presented any reason why Zoro will not surpass Oden.
Oden was the only person to tame Enma, but Blackening it is a feat beyond him:
Zoro has already matched Oden by taming Enma and bringing it under control.
He's replicated Oden's greatest feat in scarring Kaido:
He'll surpass Oden by taking Kaido's head:
Or Blackening Enma:
(Or both).
Zoro's narrative is to surpass Oden, therefore he will.
You haven't presented any reason why Zoro will not surpass Oden.
And what about Fujitora ?
Yeah he matched a 16 years old Oden good for him.
And he hasn’t perfect control over it yet.
Hell no, Oden feat is still better. Zoro hit didn’t do as much damage as Oden one. He didn’t even put Kaido on his knees. It was a good hit but not Oden last hit level.
No, Luffy narrative is to beat Kaido, and help opening Wano.
The one who is fighting Kaido is Luffy not Zoro.
Yeah he matched a 16 years old Oden good for him.
And he hasn’t perfect control over it yet.
Hell no, Oden feat is still better. Zoro hit didn’t do as much damage as Oden one. He didn’t even put Kaido on his knees. It was a good hit but not Oden last hit level.
No, Luffy narrative is to beat Kaido, and help opening Wano.
The one who is fighting Kaido is Luffy not Zoro.
Agree that the fight was a big fat mess and lame af.
But Oda wanted to keep hidden hybrid form and keep the form hype for Luffy fight.
That doesn’t mean Zoro has better feats than Oden.
The story of the flashback clearly told us that past Kaido ~ Oden, hybrid shown or not.
The fact that we didn’t see the hybrid form during the flashback is not important
Zoro last hit wasn’t hyped enough nor damaged Kaido enough to be put at Oden level.
But Oda wanted to keep hidden hybrid form and keep the form hype for Luffy fight.
That doesn’t mean Zoro has better feats than Oden.
The story of the flashback clearly told us that past Kaido ~ Oden, hybrid shown or not.
The fact that we didn’t see the hybrid form during the flashback is not important
Zoro last hit wasn’t hyped enough nor damaged Kaido enough to be put at Oden level.
Nah he does. He achieved mastery during the fight with Kaido.
I can just as say that Zoro's feat is better because:
Zoro and Oden both gave Kaido permanent scars. Zoro matched Oden's greatest accomplishment.
Zoro's narrative is to kill Kaido.
The one who will kill Kaido is Zoro not Luffy:
I can just as say that Zoro's feat is better because:
- He scarred a much stronger Kaido.
- He scarred Kaido while heavily injured and with zero stamina or HP left.
- He went on to tank a COC Thunder Bagua from Hybrid Kaido while Oden was knocked out by an ordinary club strike from Base Kaido.
Zoro and Oden both gave Kaido permanent scars. Zoro matched Oden's greatest accomplishment.
Zoro's narrative is to kill Kaido.
The one who will kill Kaido is Zoro not Luffy:
I disagree but it’s not the point, you said that Zoro was at Oden level because he tamed Enma and that statement is wrong. Oden tamed the sword at below 18, and he was much stronger at 39. Taming Enma is not a straight power level.
You can but it’s false
Oden left a much bigger scar on Kaido. Kaido reaction to Zoro scar : he wasn’t that phased by it.
Everyone always give his best attack when they are injured in manga, this is not an argument. When Zoro or Luffy will surpass Oden we will know it and Oda will make it clear. Kaido won’t only say : yeah it’s good you did enough.
Maybe maybe not, but the one who is mainly opposing and fighting Kaido is Luffy, Luffy is more Oden than Zoro.
You can but it’s false
Oden left a much bigger scar on Kaido. Kaido reaction to Zoro scar : he wasn’t that phased by it.
Everyone always give his best attack when they are injured in manga, this is not an argument. When Zoro or Luffy will surpass Oden we will know it and Oda will make it clear. Kaido won’t only say : yeah it’s good you did enough.
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Maybe maybe not, but the one who is mainly opposing and fighting Kaido is Luffy, Luffy is more Oden than Zoro.
Zoro scars a Prime Hybird Kaido after tanking Hakai (strongest attack in the series) 30 bones broken, and besting him in a cqc :
Haters:
Fresh Oden scars a young Kaido who's in his weakest form- his zoan, and couldn't even knock him out for more than 20 secs.
"OMG THIS MAN IS GOD TIER!!!!!!!"
Haters:
Fresh Oden scars a young Kaido who's in his weakest form- his zoan, and couldn't even knock him out for more than 20 secs.
"OMG THIS MAN IS GOD TIER!!!!!!!"
1. How do we know Kaido got stronger, this is just headcannon
2. What does being stronger have to do with durability/Endurance
3. If im not mistaken oden was also weaken in a 2 hour war (using zoro bois logic)
4. How did he beat kaido in a match, if hes the one in bandages while kaido is still in great fighting shape
