Character Discussion Yamato is Stronger Than King

[Monet]

sanji > yamtrash
jinbe >yamtrash

 

[Finalbeta]

Jinbe was awesome against Big Mom as well...

It turned almost a trend.

 

[Den_Den_Mushi]

• Kidd and Law do not share the same relationship with Kaido that Yamato does.
• Kidd and Law did not have the same story with Kaido that Yamato does.
• Kidd and Law did not fight Kaido in a 1 vs 1.
• Kidd and Law are fighting Big Mom.

I mean if you're confident that Kaido low diffs Yamato, I'm willing to bet against it.

I’m honestly not sure why you’re still pushing the ‘Yamatrash’s relationship with Laido means she’s > King’. As many others have pointed out, her feats are nothing special, toying with a non-serious Luffy, oneshotting a Number, which even Franky can do, and Ulti getting back up and confident enough to fight Big Mom afterwards.

Based on what he was doing this chapter, I actually think Sanji is stronger than her (feel free to screenshot this now lmao, only time I will ever give Sanji unconditional praise). Sanji is knocking Queen (to be fair, this fat fuck is a real punching bag) about while King is chilling. His racial traits have been hyped by Big Mom, his hybrid form hasn’t been revealed and he was turning ‘find Yamatrash’ into an Easter egg hunt. Solid mid diff for King, high diff if I’m being generous.

 

[Shisui]

Base PreTS Yamato = PreTS Ace who had the same potential as Sabo who would slapped King silly, Does Oda really need to spell everything for you??????

For the umpteenth time, Kaido's commanders are based on poker playing hands, ergo Ace (Yamato) > King > Queen > Jack.

 

[God Ward]

Yamato is a COA specialist who is exceptionally proficient in Ryuo.

Exhibit A:

Compare to Sentomaru:

Exhibit B:

Compare to Gol D. Roger:

Removing the cuffs binding Yamato requires a niche application of Armament Haki that neither Zoro nor Yamato have.

I don't think it's a niche application of, it's just letting it flow into your hands without forcing it. I doubt Zoro wouldn't know how to do it considering how he was the first to take the step into CoA, but it doesn't mean Yamato can't learn it herself.
If anything, I expect a CoC faceoff like between Katakuri and Luffy.

 

[Shisui]

Man, I don't know a single user here who hates Luffy as much as you.

You lot pay this man way too much attention, boy can't power scale for shit

 

[Shiroyru]

Brook lost his equivalent fight in Thriller Bark horribly. And Law really didn’t do all that well against Doflamingo either.

Jumping the gun here. We know that Yamato will fight Kaido with all she has.

But will Kaido, who is still insisting that he is Yamato’s father and will make her Shogun, fight with all he has against her? Or will he treat her like he did the Scabbards, give her a shot before finishing her quickly without ever needing to go all out.

And is the setup for Yamato to fight alongside Luffy, or to need to be saved by him? If she is to be a Strawhat, it’s more likely she’ll need to be saved.

Plus, even if Yamato goes on to really push Kaido, what’s to say King couldn’t do the same? The upper reaches of both their strengths really hasn’t been touched on yet.

It also has to be said, the fact the Calamities didn’t bother to hunt Yamato themselves and that the task was given to the Flying Six, with the reward then being a chance to fight a Calamity, does not imply the Beast Pirates think Yamato is as strong as a Calamity, at any rate.

Sasaki seemed surprised when Yamato started transforming, so it’s very probable that the F5 and even the All Stars are unaware of Yamato having a Zoan (which is very likely superior in quality to theirs btw). The F5 being assigned to capture her in order to get the right to challenge a Calamity for their position doesn’t mean that Base Yamato is weaker than all the Calamities. For example, if Base Yamato is YC3 level, then capturing her means that you should also be at least YC3 level, and since Jack is also clearly YC3 level, being able to capture Base Yamato signifies that there’s a very good chance that you could be stronger than Jack and thus more deserving of his position than he is.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sasaki seemed surprised when Yamato started transforming, so it’s very probable that the F5 and even the All Stars are unaware of Yamato having a Zoan (which is very likely superior in quality to theirs btw). The F5 being assigned to capture her in order to get the right to challenge a Calamity for their position doesn’t mean that Base Yamato is weaker than all the Calamities. For example, if Base Yamato is YC3 level, then capturing her means that you should also be at least YC3 level, and since Jack is also clearly YC3 level, being able to capture Base Yamato signifies that there’s a very good chance that you could be stronger than Jack and thus more deserving of his position than he is.

Flying 5 sure I can see them not knowing. But the calamities absolutely should know as they knew Yamato before Yamato was chained. I can’t imagine Kaido someday feeding Yamato a fruit and not saying “my kid has a powerful fruit and will one day join us.”

 

[Ravagerblade]

Base PreTS Yamato = PreTS Ace who had the same potential as Sabo who would slapped King silly, Does Oda really need to spell everything for you??????

For the umpteenth time, Kaido's commanders are based on poker playing hands, ergo Ace (Yamato) > King > Queen > Jack.

If we're correct with the seastone, she was nerfed then.

 

[Shiroyru]

yeah that's a no from me dawg

Yamato will probably get washed and have some inspiring moment before Kaido regretfully takes her out. Narratively It's more inspiring if she knows she has no chance of even hurting Kaido and still stands up to him. Also I think she's joining the crew so I don't expect her to be stronger than Jinbei

Why would she have to be weaker than Jinbe?

 

[Roo]

Why would she have to be weaker than Jinbe?

“Not Stronger” doesn’t necessarily mean weaker

 

[Shiroyru]

“Not Stronger” doesn’t necessarily mean weaker

But why not stronger?

 

[Roo]

But why not stronger?

Because I believe she would end up joining the crew and there won’t be a decisive hierarchy between her and Jinbei

 

[Screws Loose242]

Brook lost his equivalent fight in Thriller Bark horribly. And Law really didn’t do all that well against Doflamingo either.

Jumping the gun here. We know that Yamato will fight Kaido with all she has.

But will Kaido, who is still insisting that he is Yamato’s father and will make her Shogun, fight with all he has against her? Or will he treat her like he did the Scabbards, give her a shot before finishing her quickly without ever needing to go all out.

And is the setup for Yamato to fight alongside Luffy, or to need to be saved by him? If she is to be a Strawhat, it’s more likely she’ll need to be saved.

Plus, even if Yamato goes on to really push Kaido, what’s to say King couldn’t do the same? The upper reaches of both their strengths really hasn’t been touched on yet.

It also has to be said, the fact the Calamities didn’t bother to hunt Yamato themselves and that the task was given to the Flying Six, with the reward then being a chance to fight a Calamity, does not imply the Beast Pirates think Yamato is as strong as a Calamity, at any rate.

Nice take o this :cheers:

 

[Red Admiral]

I say same level ... she is the Dragon born highness and would stand above all tiers and level (but Shanks and Xebec)

 

[Screws Loose242]

Yamato would get the luffy treat wen he fought katakuri for the first time

So they send Tobiroppo who are struggling against Franky/Jinbei/Robin & Brook against someone above King?

Remember yamato was getting ready to go all out against base Sasaki

http://imgur.com/a/mlXpCOh

but she above king

 

[Ravagerblade]

Yamato would get the luffy treat wen he fought katakuri for the first time



Remember yamato was getting ready to go all out against base Sasaki

http://imgur.com/a/mlXpCOh

but she above king

Apparently you can't read context.
The fuck do you think was happening just before this?
She was handing his men their asses all the while taking blows from them and for the other two.
The second she implied to really fight, Sasaki figuratively shit his pants.
But here you are trying to make a false narrative.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Ace with 2 years more training is Yamato.

That is not true, so sabo is still > luffy then, since he was already stronger then Luffy and kept training?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Luffy/Yamato >Ace> Labo.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Can someone explain to me why this many people think she is much weaker than King?
1 shotting a flying 6 and a number is def not something that queen and jack can do.