Speculations Zoro & Sanji vs King & Queen

alliance isn't lack of relevant member. ppl like scabbards and marco law kidd drake yamato are as relevant as sh member. that's why this is called alliance and war. not SH. luffy is the only ppl that above everyone in the matter of relevancy. but the other share same piece.


both sanji and zoro won't solo calamity. not even luffy have solo calamity level on his first encounter ( doflamingo, cracker). both zoro and sanji won't be above calamity after wano same like luffy won't be above yonko after wano. at very luck with the best plot armor ever in history, luffy would tie yonko after wano. but it's very unlikely.
i posted this months ago btw, yamato wasnt revealed back then and marco didnt arrive back then either lmao.

Thats also why my post said "as of now" - which now clearly changed.
 
Killer, Hawkins, and Denjiro. 2 of them being Supernovas, and one a Scabbard. More than the rest of the allies did this arc.
killer was a joke. Hawkin was skirmish and denjiro was playing around. law kinda like low diffed hawkin anyway. luffy beat doffy and he still need 11 hours and 8 hours to Beat kata or cracker. with ton of plot armor and help.
those arent enough feats to get you a ticket to be a YC1 contender. luffy beats doffy and cracker before solo YC1. he beats YC1 2 and 3 lv only to have ticket against yonko. and that is for sure not 1 vs 1 against yonko from beginning.

you don't joke around with low-mid tier then solo yc 1 or 2. not even fujitora can pull that easily as we see on fuji vs sabo. as I said earlier sanji or zoro won't surpass YC1 or yc2 after wano just like luffy won't surpass yonko after wano. or else after wano. another top YC like shiryu or beckmann will be mid diffed by sh top crew.
 
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killer was a joke. Hawkin was skirmish and denjiro was playing around. law kinda like low diffed hawkin anyway. luffy beat doffy and he still need 11 hours and 8 hours to Beat kata or cracker. with ton of plot armor and help.
those arent enough feats to get you a ticket to be a YC1 contender. luffy beats doffy and cracker before solo YC1. he beats YC1 2 and 3 lv only to have ticket against yonko. and that is for sure not 1 vs 1 against yonko from beginning.

you don't joke around with low-mid tier then solo yc 1 or 2. not even fujitora can pull that easily as we see on fuji vs sabo. as I said earlier sanji or zoro won't surpass YC1 or yc2 after wano just like luffy won't surpass yonko after wano. or else after wano. another top YC like shiryu or beckmann will be mid diffed by sh top crew.
Law likely had help against Hawkins. The 1st clash Law and Hawkins had Hawkins held his own against Law really well. Hawkins the next time around didn't even have any lives and may even have gotten jumped. How can you say Killer's a joke? Sure Zoro may have trashed him, but that's because he Zoro, the oneshot champion. Santoryu isn't a joke. Now Kyoshiro was likely holding back, but Zoro was injured and only had 2 swords.

Zoro doesn't have fears in terms of accomplished enemies he's defeated, but he does have the frats in terms of DC/AP, arguably portrayal, and bear in mind that Zoro oneshotted everyone thus far with relatively weak attacks and still hasn't used his EL power up, so he's holding back severely.

Zoro and Sanji will likely be leaving here as YC level crewmates at the least. There aren't that many obstacles to get over after this arc and therefore will need to be way stronger than what they have shown thus far considering that after Wano there are only that much closer to becoming a Pirate King Crew.
 
Law likely had help against Hawkins. The 1st clash Law and Hawkins had Hawkins held his own against Law really well. Hawkins the next time around didn't even have any lives and may even have gotten jumped. How can you say Killer's a joke? Sure Zoro may have trashed him, but that's because he Zoro, the oneshot champion. Santoryu isn't a joke. Now Kyoshiro was likely holding back, but Zoro was injured and only had 2 swords.

Zoro doesn't have fears in terms of accomplished enemies he's defeated, but he does have the frats in terms of DC/AP, arguably portrayal, and bear in mind that Zoro oneshotted everyone thus far with relatively weak attacks and still hasn't used his EL power up, so he's holding back severely.

Zoro and Sanji will likely be leaving here as YC level crewmates at the least. There aren't that many obstacles to get over after this arc and therefore will need to be way stronger than what they have shown thus far considering that after Wano there are only that much closer to becoming a Pirate King Crew.
hawkin himself said to penguin and Co that law will kill him at any cost and he was aware that he stands no chance even before law knew someone help him. that's why he release the bepo penguin and the other. law is experienced fighting like doffy and fujitora even though he fails but he learn. the problem is neither sanji or zoro have experience fight ppl like dd or yc top commander. law fails. luffy fails and need help on his first encounter.

and here we are seeing ppl expect sanji beat yc1 or 2 solo without any help. it will make luffy looks like a dumbass. what on the next arc ? sanji take on blackbeard solo? zoro beat shanks?
 
Guys calm down. Just explain . How zoro defeat everyone in the arc. That is not meal order. For Enma, zoro have already took one scene about Kaido. That is it.
Everybody think kaido is 20 years ago Kaido. During the this time , he grown up. Enma thing should not be overestimated. Same sword with Oden did not even touch Gold D Roger.
Zoros only story related to Orochi.
Everybody say that can you imagine sanji will get stronger opponent than zoro. Why not. Whole WCI did you see sanji got any popponent.d.d.d mvp has been brook.d
 
Guys calm down. Just explain . How zoro defeat everyone in the arc. That is not meal order. For Enma, zoro have already took one scene about Kaido. That is it.
Everybody think kaido is 20 years ago Kaido. During the this time , he grown up. Enma thing should not be overestimated. Same sword with Oden did not even touch Gold D Roger.
Zoros only story related to Orochi.
Everybody say that can you imagine sanji will get stronger opponent than zoro. Why not. Whole WCI did you see sanji got any popponent.d.d.d mvp has been brook.d
If zoro vs orochi happens then popularity of one piece will go down.

33%drop in popularity will be disastrous for a cash cow.
 
What about them both being first mates and using swords?
Because king isn’t first mate, and neither of them get anything out of the fight.

Zoro gets fully healed then extreme diffs king - takes away from everything he did on the roof

Zoro doesn’t get fully healed and beats King - Really dehypes kaidos whole pirate crew if Oda shows one of kaidos top two get played like that

So until there’s character reason for the fight to occur I’ll hold off on it.
 
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