Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1016 Spoilers Discussion

[Ssg super suit coby]

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even though he has all the qualities of being king as well even a royal blood line. having genetic modifications (if that ever comes true since it was stated that it was failure) and the raid suits alone will not bring him anyway look at his brothers they are not that strong even though they had that power since their childhood.
Sanji will be one of the best haki user just like the other strawhats as well. Luffy has a DF and still Oda really is concentrating on haki.
Devil Fruits are the BB's speciality while haki will be that specialty of the strawhats .

Again read. Devil fruit or not luffy has to focus on the ultilization of haki which oda is clearly showing. In the same breath he is doing the exact same thing for zoro.

However he decides not to do the same for sanji and has sanji focus on his lineage with his family which is tech based. He isn't focused on improving sanjis observation haki or focusing on increasing his armament. Instead he gives him a power ranger suit with enhanced defenses and an actually super shield along with making him invisible.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

The Sanji CoC debate is never going to be settled lol. The people who don’t want Sanji to have it will deny it and if it happens they’ll call it bad writing. And the people who want him to have it will keep pushing until EoS if he doesn’t get it. The debates futile as long as both sides are at an impasse lol.

I think Oda’s dropped him hints recently, and if that cover really is a CoC cover then that basically confirms it IMO. But if he doesn’t wind up getting it I definitely understand the case for why he wouldn’t.

If he doesn’t get it in Wano it’s never happening IMO. This is an arc dedicated to CoC.

 

[mrtsrdr]

Never argue about it's uniqueness. Just mention that none of sanjis main powerups has been haki driven or focused

So why would people all of a sudden think that coc would be something that oda would give sanji when he isn't even focused on showing sanji improving with haki?

Never argue about it's uniqueness. Just mention that none of sanjis main powerups has been haki driven or focused

So why would people all of a sudden think that coc would be something that oda would give sanji when he isn't even focused on showing sanji improving with haki?

After falling Luffy and making announcement , who did not believe this ?
Sanji and Zoro
When Zoro said to Sanji Luffy foundt out a way to defeat Kaido.
Sanji said soooooooooooo we have already known.

Think Apple. Sanji and Zoro are two halves of an apple. And Sanji have strong will, power and loyalty. If somebody have this features on one piece world , can get CoC.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the only SH's who come out of the time skip with unlocked Haki and at least base level mastery over both CoA and CoO, and oda gives all three distinct specializations, with Luffy getting CoC, Zoro getting CoA and Sanji getting CoO as his point of focus.

For feats, again you don't need to go back further than just a chapter ago to see Sanji picking up on the fact that both Chopper and the Samurai are in danger, and being able to assess what's threatening them, so that when he busts through the wall after the attacks aimed at these two different targets were already in motion, he already knows how to neutralize both with a single move.

Also while running alongside fellow CoO users like Jimbe and Luffy, he was the only one who could pick up the events going on the third floor with his CoO

Cap. Yes they were the only ones stated to have haki beginning of post timeskip. However it's only heavily focused with luffy and zoro. Sanjis best observation feat was dodging a jelly bean from kat in whole cake.

Every other observation haki feat has been a gag. Infact jinbe and luffy didn't sense the actualll danger on that floor because there was none. Hence why sanji walked into a trap from Black maria. That actually shows sanjis lack on observation efficiency since he should have sense better. So that's actually the opposite of a good feat

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After falling Luffy and making announcement , who did not believe this ?
Sanji and Zoro
When Zoro said to Sanji Luffy foundt out a way to defeat Kaido.
Sanji said soooooooooooo we have already known.

Think Apple. Sanji and Zoro are two halves of an apple. And Sanji have strong will, power and loyalty. If somebody have this features on one piece world , can get CoC.

Piss poor argument. Believing in someone does not translate to one having coc. Else even nami would have it. Whole cake arc made it pretty clear that he doesn't have the resolve to have it as emphasized by oda.

 

[humanbeing]

Again read. Devil fruit or not luffy has to focus on the ultilization of haki which oda is clearly showing. In the same breath he is doing the exact same thing for zoro.

However he decides not to do the same for sanji and has sanji focus on his lineage with his family which is tech based. He isn't focused on improving sanjis observation haki or focusing on increasing his armament. Instead he gives him a power ranger suit with enhanced defenses and an actually super shield along with making him invisible.

we will see let us just agree that we have different opinions on the matter.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Cap. Yes they were the only ones stated to have haki beginning of post timeskip. However it's only heavily focused with luffy and zoro. Sanjis best observation feat was dodging a jelly bean from kat in whole cake.

Every other observation haki feat has been a gag. Infact jinbe and luffy didn't sense the actualll danger on that floor because there was none. Hence why sanji walked into a trap from Black maria. That actually shows sanjis lack on observation efficiency since he should have sense better. So that's actually the opposite of a good feat

Cap. Luffy and Jimbe were absolutely clueless that anything at all was happening at the third floor, while Sanji could pick up that something out of place was going on.

When they questioned each other where Sanji went they could only make assumptions based on Sanji's expression, because once again, they were absolutely clueless to what Sanji was able to perceive.

Sanji outright questions them if they can hear what he is hearing, and they can not. They don't get to the point where they make a superior choice, because they are not even at a point where they can make any choice in regards to those events, as they are shown to be entirely unaware of their existence.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Also while running alongside fellow CoO users like Jimbe and Luffy, he was the only one who could pick up the events going on the third floor with his CoO

Could you remind me what happened after that??

 

[mrtsrdr]

Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the only SH's who come out of the time skip with unlocked Haki and at least base level mastery over both CoA and CoO, and oda gives all three distinct specializations, with Luffy getting CoC, Zoro getting CoA and Sanji getting CoO as his point of focus.

For feats, again you don't need to go back further than just a chapter ago to see Sanji picking up on the fact that both Chopper and the Samurai are in danger, and being able to assess what's threatening them, so that when he busts through the wall after the attacks aimed at these two different targets were already in motion, he already knows how to neutralize both with a single move.

Also while running alongside fellow CoO users like Jimbe and Luffy, he was the only one who could pick up the events going on the third floor with his CoO

you forgot to add one more panel ? When Luffy asked Jimbei Where did sanji go ? Jimbei said he must have seen something . He changed eyes or somethong different. And Luffy said that There are lots of thing i need to learn about haki. Observation haki ability of Sanji is more effective than Luffy still.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Cap. Luffy and Jimbe were absolutely clueless that anything at all was happening at the third floor, while Sanji could pick up that something out of place was going on.

When they questioned each other where Sanji went they could only make assumptions based on Sanji's expression, because once again, they were absolutely clueless to what Sanji was able to perceive.

Sanji outright questions them if they can hear what he is hearing, and they can not. They don't get to the point where they make a superior choice, because they are not even at a point where they can make any choice in regards to those events, as they are shown to be entirely unaware of their existence.

It was an observation Haki feat, but they weren’t on the lookout for women lol.

It’s not a situation where you can say it’s a clear feat over Luffy & Jimbe although I think he’s got better CoO sensory range than them. Luffy has FS but that’s a different branch. But that instance doesn’t do anything to prove it.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Could you remind me what happened after that??

Emotions affect CoO usage, we've seen that first hand with Katakuri.

Sanji let himself get overwhelmed by the emotions of thinking that a woman was in danger, so he fell into that trap.

However, the others were left oblivious to everything that Sanji was able to pick up while running at their side.

 

[humanbeing]

However he decides not to do the same for sanji and has sanji focus on his lineage with his family which is tech based. He isn't focused on improving sanjis observation haki or focusing on increasing his armament. Instead he gives him a power ranger suit with enhanced defenses and an actually super shield along with making him invisible

by the way there is no denying that Sanji has overpowered observation haki the last chapter is the best evidence for that. Sanji sensed Chopper was in Danger he went through walls to rescue him. and he used Queen's neck so accurately to deflect the arrows.

 

[hedera__helix]

That woman gag was the same thing as Zoro sensing alcohol, doesn’t mean shit.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

by the way there is no denying that Sanji has overpowered observation haki the last chapter is the best evidence for that. Sanji sensed Chopper was in Danger he went through walls to rescue him. and he used Queen's neck so accurately to deflect the arrows.

This is a much better concrete CoO feat for people to defend/hype Sanji with.

 

[mrtsrdr]

Cap. Yes they were the only ones stated to have haki beginning of post timeskip. However it's only heavily focused with luffy and zoro. Sanjis best observation feat was dodging a jelly bean from kat in whole cake.

Every other observation haki feat has been a gag. Infact jinbe and luffy didn't sense the actualll danger on that floor because there was none. Hence why sanji walked into a trap from Black maria. That actually shows sanjis lack on observation efficiency since he should have sense better. So that's actually the opposite of a good feat

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Piss poor argument. Believing in someone does not translate to one having coc. Else even nami would have it. Whole cake arc made it pretty clear that he doesn't have the resolve to have it as emphasized by oda.

Dude what are you talking about i could not understand ? Why wouldnt sanji get CoC ? It is not strong enough ? not enough will ? not enough loyalty ? why why why ? i couldnt understand your shitty logic

 

[Sigran101]

There's literally no way Nami's fight lasts a few pages in the middle of a Tama chapter. I know y'all hate Oda and One Piece, but there's literally no precedence for that kind of shit. Ulti and Page One will get back up later for sure.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

That woman gag was the same thing as Zoro sensing alcohol, doesn’t mean shit.

Sanji was hearing the dialogue between the male and the female. That's how the trap was set up, so it's not just the woman that Sanji's CoO was able to perceive.

 

[mrtsrdr]

At the same time , zoro is the best armanent haki user in the crew. Not luffy.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

by the way there is no denying that Sanji has overpowered observation haki the last chapter is the best evidence for that. Sanji sensed Chopper was in Danger he went through walls to rescue him. and he used Queen's neck so accurately to deflect the arrows.

Again that is basic. It's the same way zoro sensed vergo a distance away in punk hazard. It's the same way Coby sense a missile from a distance. It's the same way in which zoro pick up that kiku was hiding the fact that she was a man. Danger sense is a basic ability of observation

 

[mrtsrdr]

That woman gag was the same thing as Zoro sensing alcohol, doesn’t mean shit.

Dude , your hate are making your eyes blind. Be careful.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Sanji was hearing the dialogue between the male and the female. That's how the trap was set up, so it's not just the woman that Sanji's CoO was able to perceive.

Yip. And didn't sense the intent of the individuals talking hence why he was tricked in the first place. He lacks proper danger sense which is a basic ability of observation haki

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Dude , your hate are making your eyes blind. Be careful.

It's true though. Dude sensed an inanimate object which in a sense is more difficult since haki is about reading and sensing the feelings of others