Powers & Abilities "Sanji uses the RS because he was too weak"

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For all we know Sanji's powers could be as strong as having 2 devil fruits such as Oven and Ace's fruit combined.. Sanji technically being the second character in One Piece with 2 DF powers.. I'm starting to do what i hate wanking... ha ha..
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Creating fire from your leg or from your butthole is *not* the same as having a df, specialy not a logia DF. The level of delusion of these stans is too much.
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#44
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Creating fire from your leg or from your butthole is *not* the same as having a df, specialy not a logia DF. The level of delusion of these stans is too much.
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Its funny you're calling me a Sanji stan.. anyway..

The Vinsmokes children were genetically modified by inserting devil fruit genes. Perhaps not a Logia, but a paramecia type being able to produce fire and heat, 2 devil fruit abilties..
 
#45
I’ve said it in other threads but I’ll post it again here because I believe everything you’ve listed here are flaws Sanji needs to overcome. He still isn’t accepting his full self. Sanji is a Vinesmoke. And Judge and his shitty siblings can’t do anything about it. He’s a Vinesmoke and the greatest of all of them whether they want to accept it or not.

I believe the point of Queen’s connection to Judge is to give Sanji a chance to finish the character arc he started in WCI and embrace himself as Vinesmoke Sanji. I think his moment with Momo where Sanji congratulated him on refusing to throw away his Kozuki name is foreshadowing for Sanji’s own growth.



All of the excuses Sanji makes for using his raid suit are still him rejecting who is is. I actually think Sanji not incorporating DJ into his RS yet could be him refusing to embrace both sides of himself but that’s just speculation/headcanon for now.

I believe Sanji is going to start out this fight in Base, but it’s not going to be enough and he’s going to have to accept the RS for real, as a power up. Sanji using the RS for power isn’t a disgrace, it’s him embracing a birthright others tried to take from him. Anyone who wants Sanji to get CoC should embrace it because his Royal linage is his best route he has to it imo. If he’s to get I believe it will be because he’s the first true Germa conqueror in a few hundred years.

People who are worried about the RS meaning he’s weak without it are silly. Who cares? These guys are Pirates and strength is strength by any means necessary. He can reap the benefits and still get stronger himself as well.
Good write-up as usual.
Personally I don't see a problem with Sanji having RS.
The man is already self-handicapping himself by not using his two hands. :amazing:
RS is kind of making up for his refusal to use his fists.
Granted he will never be close in strength compared to zoro post-wano, I am looking forward to him beating a YC2.
 
#47
This just sounds like a medical issue..
Hells memoirs man.....He was in an okama island where everyone wanted his butthole, and the fire for it comes from his back.


Coincidence?
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Its funny you're calling me a Sanji stan.. anyway..

The Vinsmokes children were genetically modified by inserting devil fruit genes. Perhaps not a Logia, but a paramecia type being able to produce fire and heat, 2 devil fruit abilties..
You speak headcannon as if it was fact. You have to be a realy high tier wanker to do that.
 
#50
Good write-up as usual.
Personally I don't see a problem with Sanji having RS.
The man is already self-handicapping himself by not using his two hands. :amazing:
RS is kind of making up for his refusal to use his fists.
Granted he will never be close in strength compared to zoro post-wano, I am looking forward to him beating a YC2.
If Zoro fights and defeats King, then the gap isn't a big deal
 
#51
Good write-up as usual.
Personally I don't see a problem with Sanji having RS.
The man is already self-handicapping himself by not using his two hands. :amazing:
RS is kind of making up for his refusal to use his fists.
Granted he will never be close in strength compared to zoro post-wano, I am looking forward to him beating a YC2.
Lol I have Zoro tiers above Sanji post Wano. I’m expecting Sanji post Queen to be YC1 & Zoro to be Admiral level.

Sanji’s placement is assuming he beats Queen with no more than lower end of high difficulty/upper end of medium difficulty once he decides to fully own his suit. Sanji’s never been in an extreme diff fight so I don’t really expect it now. I figure things will be pretty decisively one sided once Sanji gets his big character development moment. I expect Queen will get to bash him around a bit before the light bulb goes off though.

Still will be lucky to take Zoro to mid diff post Wano.
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If Zoro fights and defeats King, then the gap isn't a big deal
Gap will always be a big deal and that’s fine. If Zoro fights King Im fully expecting Zoro to be noticeably nerfed. Otherwise King shouldn’t be able to hang with what we saw from rooftop Zoro.
 
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Gap will always be a big deal and that’s fine. If Zoro fights King Im fully expecting Zoro to be nerfed. Otherwise King shouldn’t be able to hang with what we saw from rooftop Zoro.

This is the wank i don't manage to understand, we can't even say if Zoro is stronger than Kid and even Law considering what they did, what they're doing and what they can achieve. How is him beating a YC1 presented along with a YC2 with ease?

You guys are wanking that Kaido scar too damn much. A 1vs1 fight against someone near or above your own level is what makes the character actually evolve.

And Oda isn't going to make healthy King lose to a near death or handicapped Zoro, come on people.
If he fights Kaido again until Kaido's defeat, then i agree the gap between him and Sanji is considerably big
 
#56
You speak headcannon as if it was fact. You have to be a realy high tier wanker to do that.
They were genetically modified, that's in the manga. They obtained powers like explosion dark red and electricity blue, that's also in the manga. Their eyebrows are spirals like the patterns on devil fruits. Judge was working with Vegapunk and Caesar who were making research on devil fruits. What else do you need
 
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#57
Lol I have Zoro tiers above Sanji post Wano. I’m expecting Sanji post Queen to be YC1 & Zoro to be Admiral level.

Sanji’s placement is assuming he beats Queen with no more than lower end of high difficulty/upper end of medium difficulty once he decides to fully own his suit. Sanji’s never been in an extreme diff fight so I don’t really expect it now. I figure things will be pretty decisively one sided once Sanji gets his big character development moment. I expect Queen will get to bash him around a bit before the light bulb goes off though.

Still will be lucky to take Zoro to mid diff post Wano.
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Gap will always be a big deal and that’s fine. If Zoro fights King Im fully expecting Zoro to be nerfed. Otherwise King shouldn’t be able to hang with what we saw from rooftop Zoro.
Unless Sanji can finish queen off quickly, I have a bad feeling that Oda will let other characters to intervene the sanji vs queen fight, making it not a 1 v. 1. It makes sense because it is a war, and people are not gonna just watch 2 dudes fight until one loses. In MF, there were very little 1 v. 1 matchups that results in a clear-cut win/loss as well.

Sanji is a special character imo, and his strength is limited by his own ideals. He can be as strong (or very close to) Zoro if he spends the same time training instead of cooking, fighting with 2 hands and 2 legs, and be comfortable battling with women. Zoro is just a straight-up bad-ass that is the "boring guy". That's how i see them diverge more and more as the story progresses.
 
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Unless Sanji can finish queen off quickly, I have a bad feeling that Oda will let other characters to intervene the sanji vs queen fight, making it not a 1 v. 1. It makes sense because it is a war, and people are not gonna just watch 2 dudes fight until one loses. In MF, there were very little 1 v. 1 matchups that results in a clear-cut win/loss as well.
I do consider this, but I hope that Oda will keep it a 1v1 anyway since it’s going to be one of Sanji’s last 1v1s of the series. After this it’s really just BB Pirates & Final War most likely. Considering Oda hadn’t given Sanji a proper 1v1 post TS I think he owes him.


Zoro is just a straight-up bad-ass that is the "boring guy".
I definitely would never call Zoro boring. Sure he does fit the “24/7 badass” definition but I still get a lot of enjoyment from Zoro outside of just his badass moments. Zoro’s comedy & gags are underrated imo.
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This is the wank i don't manage to understand, we can't even say if Zoro is stronger than Kid and even Law considering what they did, what they're doing and what they can achieve. How is him beating a YC1 presented along with a YC2 with ease?

You guys are wanking that Kaido scar too damn much. A 1vs1 fight against someone near or above your own level is what makes the character actually evolve.

And Oda isn't going to make healthy King lose to a near death or handicapped Zoro, come on people.
If he fights Kaido again until Kaido's defeat, then i agree the gap between him and Sanji is considerably big
Do you honestly believe anyone else could have taken Hakai even with Law’s help? And scarring Kaido after breaking 30/40 bones is a huge deal. Scarring Kaido is a huge deal period. If it wasn’t it wouldn’t have only ever happened once.

Call it wank if you want but I think it’s certainly fair to say Zoro was the strongest SN on that rooftop. (Luffy will easily get his spot back once he can use ACoC with G4).

And as far as having King fight nerfed Zoro, Oda has a long history of handicapping Zoro to bring him down to his opponents level.
 
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I definitely would never call Zoro boring. Sure he does fit the “24/7 badass” definition but I still get a lot of enjoyment from Zoro outside of just his badass moments. Zoro’s comedy & gags are underrated imo.
By boring, i meant quiet and routine.
Zoro's daily schedule is basically a lot of training, sleeping and drinking. Very predictable and routine.
 
#60
By boring, i meant quiet and routine.
Zoro's daily schedule is basically a lot of training, sleeping and drinking. Very predictable and routine.
Lol yeah by that definition he fits the bill. Zoro is a simple man with simple needs.
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I’m sorry we’ve stared to derailed this Sanji thread into talking about Zoro lol.
 
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