General & Others Understanding that some things are exclusive to Luffy and Zoro in the Strawhat crew.

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I hear a lot of people saying other Strawhats are gonna get conquerors haki/ryuo ext..... I think people need to understand there are things Oda only does for Luffy and Zoro........in this thread were going to go over this in detail .

Luffy and Zoro are the:

1. Only Strawhats with Fighting oriented Dreams



2. Only Straw hats that achieved the title of Supernova. (Not saying other strawhats couldn't but the ones Oda let be supernova are Luffy and Zoro.)



3. Which is Why only Luffy and Zoro Among the Strawhats got to be on the roof in the Kaido fight.


4. Only Strawhats with Parallels to Legends.



5. Only Strawhats who were willing to hit a Celestial Dragon


6. Only Strawhats with Ryuo Manipulation in their fighting styles.




7. And now their likely going to be the only Strawhats with Conquerors Haki





Which also makes Luffy and Zoro the only Strawhats that can use all 3 forms of Haki.




This thread is not to downplay other Strawhats but people often forget Luffy and Zoro are the ones we started with. They are going to attain certain things other strawhats will not , and thats ok.





Never forget how the story started.......
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I hear a lot of people saying other Strawhats are gonna get conquerors haki/ryuo ext..... I think people need to understand there are things Oda only does for Luffy and Zoro........in this thread were going to go over this in detail .

Luffy and Zoro are the:

1. Only Strawhats with Fighting oriented Dreams



2. Only Straw hats that achieved the title of Supernova. (Not saying other strawhats couldn't but the ones Oda let be supernova are Luffy and Zoro.)



3. Which is Why only Luffy and Zoro Among the Strawhats got to be on the roof in the Kaido fight.


4. Only Strawhats with Parallels to Legends.



5. Only Strawhats who were willing to hit a Celestial Dragon


6. Only Strawhats with Ryuo Manipulation in their fighting styles.




7. And now their likely going to be the only Strawhats with Conquerors Haki


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Which also makes Luffy and Zoro the only Strawhats that can use all 3 forms of Haki.




This thread is not to downplay other Strawhats but people often forget Luffy and Zoro are the ones we started with. They are going to attain certain things other strawhats will not , and thats ok.





Never forget how the story started.......
Leave your thoughts


This is the best argument for why it’ll just be Luffy & Zoro. Although if Yamato joins that will kind of screw it up a little.

Sanji fans needs to realize that Sanji has been excluded from things that Luffy & Zoro have received throughout the story. It’s why Sanji getting CoC because Zoro has CoC is a bad argument.

Luffy & Zoro had the only bounties for the longest time. Luffy & Zoro were made supernova. I don’t think it guarantees Sanji or Ussop won’t get CoC but it’s a solid argument. It all depends on if Oda wants SHs to outdo Rocks and won’t have anything to do with Sanji = Zoro.
 

Doggo

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I dont say shit for no reason bruh, Sanji was only willing to do it after the captain did which isn't a bad thing to do but im just sayin, Even Chopper was trynna get Sanji to do something and he wouldn't budge.



Luffy and Zoro didn't need somebody else to act first.
Yeah....
About Zoro...
Zoro attacking the Tenryuubito is different from Luffy doing it, for one simple reason.
Zoro didn't know he was in front of one.
He was purely ignorant at that time. He just thought it was some random ass dude shooting at him. He fought back. That's all at the time.
Using the panel when Zoro was sheathing his sword after the "punch" would be a much better example of Zoro's willingness to hit one.
 
#12
Yeah....
About Zoro...
Zoro attacking the Tenryuubito is different from Luffy doing it, for one simple reason.
Zoro didn't know he was in front of one.
He was purely ignorant at that time. He just thought it was some random ass dude shooting at him. He fought back. That's all at the time.
Using the panel when Zoro was sheathing his sword after the "punch" would be a much better example of Zoro's willingness to hit one.
you think zoro will be scared of a celestial dragon when level 1 zoro had decided to take on a level 99 mihawk? :milaugh:
 
#14
And how did it work for him in Sabaody again?
Oh yes.
They are saved by "Kuma secretly saved them" plot because they were getting wiped. :P
dude you are changing the subject...
having the guts to kill a celestial dragon doesn't mean you can beat an admiral.
luffy has it. zoro has it.
sanji most likely doesn't.

sanji went to okama island with okama queen , zoro went to train with the strongest swordsman
why do you think that zoro won't dare to kill a celestial dragon when level 1 zoro challenged a level 99 mihawk?
 

Doggo

Welcome to the House of Hope
#15
dude you are changing the subject...
having the guts to kill a celestial dragon doesn't mean you can beat an admiral.
luffy has it. zoro has it.
sanji most likely doesn't.

sanji went to okama island with okama queen , zoro went to train with the strongest swordsman
why do you think that zoro won't dare to kill a celestial dragon when level 1 zoro challenged a level 99 mihawk?
They were not "sent to train" by Kuma.
They decided to train after the 3D2Y announcement from Luffy. Before it, they were all trying to get back to Sabaody immediately.
 
#20
Luffy bounty= 1.5B
Zoro bounty= 320M
Sanji bounty= 330M

Luffy fights: 4000 Doriki opponent and Crocodile (Warlord)
Zoro fights: 2200 Doriki opponent and Mr.1
Sanji fights: 2180 Doriki opponent and Mr. 2

Luffy EL powerup: Gear 2nd and Gear 3rd
Zoro EL powerup: Ashura
Sanji EL powerup: Diable Jambe

Luffy powerups: Gear 4, Kings Haki, Future sight(WCI), Advanced Armament(Wano) and Advanced Kings(Wano)......( possibly another powerup in Wano soon)
Zoro powerups: Enma(Wano) and Kings Haki(Wano)
Sanji powerups: Raid suit(Wano) (soon another powerup in Wano)

Luffy fights: Doflamingo, Cracker, Katakuri and Kaido
Zoro fights: Pica, Killer and King
Sanji fights: Page one, X-drake and Queen

Try to ostracize Sanji from the other two but you are arguing against the author, the only thing grouping Luffy and Zoro together is the WG title but beyond that it's clear which two are grouped together. When Oda draws Rayleigh and Gaban side by side being called Rogers two best and then a panel of them raising their arms leading the charge equally against the WB pirates I don't know about you but that shows a grouping. Besides Luffy isn't Roger and his crew dynamic can be different but with the existence of the metal naming in Rogers crew its clear that this is just a case of not knowing enough about Gaban yet that it feels like he was a third wheel but if Oda wanted to highlight Roger and Rayleigh as a duo he could have easily kept it at Gold and Silver......but he didn't....and that's the point. Rayleigh's official role in the crew was that of a Vice captain, Zoros is combatant and those are not the same. We see BOTH Zoro and Sanji being the two highlighted as the last lines of defense when the captain is down, carrying the crew on their shoulders until Luffy returns.....it seems to me that this is a clear depiction equal power and authority between Zoro and Sanji, think about it like this, couldn't Luffy back at Sabaody easily have told Zoro to take Sanji and the crew under his lead?......but he didn't, rather told BOTH Sanji and Zoro to lead their own groups......this is how Luffy views them which means that's how Oda views them. No duo in the entirety of this manga is as highlighted as Zoro and Sanji.....and there is a reason for that, screaming GAGS GAGS will only take you so far until you reach Thriller Bark and you watch as ONLY Zoro and Sanji are left to defend their crew and captain.....but why Oda?....why have Sanji there as well?.......ever ask yourselves why Oda sat down and wrote Sanji in that scene........or was it secretly a gag scene?. Remember that for every Zoro and Luffy panel you can post, someone can post 5 Zoro and Sanji panels...and that means something.
 
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