Character Discussion Roger loved his sword

[HA001]

-Big Mom uses sword techniques and nowhere has she been classified as a swordsman

- What I said about fujitora I said because the other user told me not to compare Big Mom who is a devil fruit user with swordsmen who do not use devil fruits.
So with that same logic Fujitora being a devil fruit user like Big Mom he wouldn't be a swordsman either

- Also why Oda classifies mihawk and others as swordsmen but with Fujitora classifies him as Sword User if Swordman and Sword user are the same?

You've already been told why

It was katana user. There is no maybe zoro is also a katana user
Mihawk is not
All katana users are swordsman
Not all swordsman are katana users

 

[nik87]

Swordsmen are the greatest mystery of One Piece for some people, arent they?

 

[Human D Luffy]

- Also why Oda classifies mihawk and others as swordsmen but with Fujitora classifies him as Sword User if Swordman and Sword user are the same?

Now you are just trying so hard to analyze every single words in the manga just to hopefully prove that fuji isn't a swordsman.
that is so sad its not even funny but i am laughing LOL.

 

[Augus]

Confirmed supreme blade users: Roger, Whitebeard and Mihawk

What the hell is Oda thinking by grouping the supposedly commander level fodder alongside the two Pirate King tier gods?:yasu:

 

[The Legend]

Now you are just trying so hard to analyze every single words in the manga just to hopefully prove that fuji isn't a swordsman.
that is so sad its not even funny but i am laughing LOL.

I just want to know the why of things since most of the things we read are translations but when it comes to the Raws things usually change ...

And then explains why Big Mom despite using sword techniques is not classified as a swordsman or sword user like fujitora?

 

[Red Admiral]

or he was too lazy to choose a name

I honestly think this was the case even if he loved his sword
he wanted a named ... looked around and said : why not?

 

[HA001]

or he was too lazy to choose a name

I honestly think this was the case even if he loved his sword
he wanted a named ... looked around and said : why not?

Nah you know what it's cheesy af. But I like it. Now I'm OK with it being in the vc. If it was gryphon I would have hated it being revealed In the vc.
Gryphon will still be a saijo o wazamono no doubt.

 

[KageFumi]

roger loved his sword, but his sword doesn't loved him. It's one sided love story, and that's why he can't make it permanent black.

 

[Human D Luffy]

I just want to know the why of things since most of the things we read are translations but when it comes to the Raws things usually change ...

And then explains why Big Mom despite using sword techniques is not classified as a swordsman or sword user like fujitora?

I never said BM is not a swordsman so i am not sure why you are evening asking me to explain to you that part.....

 

[style]

Air bar always was a weak argument

Fujitora launches gravity strikes with his sword and he's still a swordsman despite not launching cutting techniques

you don't need to use cutting techniques to be a swordsman, you just need to...use a sword to be one! Yes! As simple as that.

We Zoro fans never changed the definition of swordsman since the manga started (at least as much as I remember), but at the other side they need constantly to change their definition.
Take a minute and think why...

Everyone have just their own style, Zoro slashes are very clean while Mihawk slashes have kinda a "jagged" style.
Vista slashes have flowers and roses etc.
Fujitora slashes are gravity etc.

Everyone is just different, otherwise it would be boring. Really no need to overthink.
You use a sword you're a swordsman

Confirmed supreme blade users: Roger, Whitebeard and Mihawk

What the hell is Oda thinking by grouping the supposedly commander level fodder alongside the two Pirate King tier gods?:yasu:

Remember SBS 73?
Oda thinks that Mihawk is worthy of staring down at Shanks and Whitebeard.
Can you imagine a commander level character staring down at a Yonko?

 

[KageFumi]

It was katana user. There is no maybe zoro is also a katana user
Mihawk is not
All katana users are swordsman
Not all swordsman are katana users

Watch, YouTubers gonna make another headcanon terms.

Swordsman, Saberman, and Katanaman.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Everyone is just different, otherwise it would be boring. Really no need to overthink.
You use a sword you're a swordsman

Agree for the most part with a few exceptions.
For example, kizaru is not really a swordsman even tho he uses the light sword sometimes.
This is because he can literally create a light bow, or a light gun with his DF.
To that extent, his sword is just a small manifestation of his DF's ability.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Confirmed supreme blade users: Roger, Whitebeard and Mihawk

What the hell is Oda thinking by grouping the supposedly commander level fodder alongside the two Pirate King tier gods?:yasu:

are you crying?

 

[Red Admiral]

Nah you know what it's cheesy af. But I like it. Now I'm OK with it being in the vc. If it was gryphon I would have hated it being revealed In the vc.
Gryphon will still be a saijo o wazamono no doubt.

I would be FINE with it either way ...
and I'm not even debating with hidden meaning of this thread (I was fighting for Roger IS a swordsman well before ANY Zoro boys that I know)

but I like to think Roger is the type of man who named Ace based on first thing he was ... it's funny and trollish nature of PKs ...


p.s
Gryphon NOT being a saijo o wazamono is wired

 

[HA001]

I would be FINE with it either way ...
and I'm not even debating with hidden meaning of this thread (I was fighting for Roger IS a swordsman well before ANY Zoro boys that I know)

but I like to think Roger is the type of man who named Ace based on first thing he was ... it's funny and trollish nature of PKs ...


p.s
Gryphon NOT being a saijo o wazamono is wired

There is 0 doubt in my mind it is a Supreme Grade. Rox will have one too.

 

[Red Admiral]

There is 0 doubt in my mind it is a Supreme Grade. Rox will have one too.

Xebec ...
Roger
Whitebard
Shanks
Mihawk

are out of question

Shiki had 2 blades so it's a no
Dark King used more than 4 blades so it's a no

Gandi? maybe

that's 6 ...

p.s
it's a shame Ryuma didn't had 1 of them

 

[HA001]

Xebec ...
Roger
Whitebard
Shanks
Mihawk

are out of question

Shiki had 2 blades so it's a no
Dark King used more than 4 blades so it's a no

Gandi? maybe

that's 6 ...

p.s
it's a shame Ryuma didn't had 1 of them

Ghandi looks like he has the shodai kitetsu which is the apex of a kitestus and a confirmed supreme grade.

You don't have to have a saijo to be a top tier e g oden Ryuma etc

But I expect ALL saijo owners to be top tiers.

I like the fact that ryuma didn't even have the 2nd highest grade sword and still kicked ass to become a legend and raise its rank.

Ps. Oden if he could make his swords black would also be a top tier with 2 saijos

 

[Red Admiral]

Ps. Oden if he could make his swords black would also be a top tier with 2 saijos

what would happened if Roger could turn his sword black? we need a new tire

 

[nik87]

what would happened if Roger could turn his sword black? we need a new tire

Nothing?

 

[Finalbeta]

Swordsmen are the greatest mystery of One Piece for some people, arent they?

Hakimen too apparently.