General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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In do not care if i may call being crazy or delusional but ill say it. Lets do a comparison between oden and pedro
-Oden is a legend that a lot of people and whom stories have been known from a lot of people. Oden also been captive of wano until he finally have the chance to go in the sea.
- Pedro decide on his own to go in the adventure. He was no legend and was living in the shadow as the captain of the nox pirates. He didn't accomplish much when he tried to steal the poneglyph from big mom he lose his crewmate and his eye. Is only later that he finally had its moment to shine.
I think Yamato and carrot reflect from them.
-Yamato has been captive all her life but she has everything to be a living legend. Ace said it himself Yamato could be a captain. she is very strong and is shown to be a badass. Since her introduction she has been in the shine light.
- Carrot decide the join the strawhats adventeure on her own. She did not accomplish a lot in fact she took L by katakuri and now by perospero. In the same way pedro struggle against big mom Carrot is struggling against Big mom first born child. She is shown as rather weak and has been in the background. She hints to have her moment to shine.
I think in the same way Oden is the top dog and pedro the underdog, Yamato the top dog and carrot the underdog. I think both are gonna join and that people are being tricked by the fact that yamato is in the forefront and carrot on the background for now. From my point view there is a narrative and artistic reason for why Oda is using these character the way he is. carrot mean to have her moment to shine its lost his purpose is she is shown as important and badass as the strawhat and yamato.
I think people are being tricked by oda that keep pushing yamato as the next strawhat to make you think that cartot has no chance anymore
-Oden is a legend that a lot of people and whom stories have been known from a lot of people. Oden also been captive of wano until he finally have the chance to go in the sea.
- Pedro decide on his own to go in the adventure. He was no legend and was living in the shadow as the captain of the nox pirates. He didn't accomplish much when he tried to steal the poneglyph from big mom he lose his crewmate and his eye. Is only later that he finally had its moment to shine.
I think Yamato and carrot reflect from them.
-Yamato has been captive all her life but she has everything to be a living legend. Ace said it himself Yamato could be a captain. she is very strong and is shown to be a badass. Since her introduction she has been in the shine light.
- Carrot decide the join the strawhats adventeure on her own. She did not accomplish a lot in fact she took L by katakuri and now by perospero. In the same way pedro struggle against big mom Carrot is struggling against Big mom first born child. She is shown as rather weak and has been in the background. She hints to have her moment to shine.
I think in the same way Oden is the top dog and pedro the underdog, Yamato the top dog and carrot the underdog. I think both are gonna join and that people are being tricked by the fact that yamato is in the forefront and carrot on the background for now. From my point view there is a narrative and artistic reason for why Oda is using these character the way he is. carrot mean to have her moment to shine its lost his purpose is she is shown as important and badass as the strawhat and yamato.
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I think people are being tricked by oda that keep pushing yamato as the next strawhat to make you think that cartot has no chance anymore
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Pedro didn't just go on adventure just for the sake of it, he had a precise goal in mind to help bring about the dawn by searching for poneglyphs. You're belittling Pedro's life efforts a lot, he wasn't living in the shadow, he roamed the seas for 10-15 years and even got a bounty on his head for it. Its not easy to find poneglyphs, for 20 years or so Robin had no lead until she met the Strawhats. Pedro is the hero there not Carrot, the emphasis is all on Pedro.
I saw some people comparing the way Carrot got on the Sunny like Robin, however they are different. Robin had a reason for it and wasn't fully infranging on the crew without a care, Luffy saved her when she wanted to die so Luffy had to take responsibities for going against her will.. Also Neko and Inu had a reason as well, same as Izo, they were following Oden and Oden had to pass a test for being accepted. Carrot just forced her way on the ship to have fun
Carrot is the total opposite from Pedro, she selfishly invited herself on board for her personal desire and she's still going on another whim of hers to avenge Pedro's death. Similar to Jinbei, Pedro was the complete contrary, he was selfless, everything he did was to help bring about the dawn. Everything Carrot has done is for herself, she doesn't deserve to inherit Pedro's will at all.. She's not involved in the war, the dawn, Wano nor the Strawhats..
Her time to shine passed already, it was when she went Sulong in WCI..
You don't trick people over 500 chapters, Carrot has never been special or mattered in any way..
I saw some people comparing the way Carrot got on the Sunny like Robin, however they are different. Robin had a reason for it and wasn't fully infranging on the crew without a care, Luffy saved her when she wanted to die so Luffy had to take responsibities for going against her will.. Also Neko and Inu had a reason as well, same as Izo, they were following Oden and Oden had to pass a test for being accepted. Carrot just forced her way on the ship to have fun
Carrot is the total opposite from Pedro, she selfishly invited herself on board for her personal desire and she's still going on another whim of hers to avenge Pedro's death. Similar to Jinbei, Pedro was the complete contrary, he was selfless, everything he did was to help bring about the dawn. Everything Carrot has done is for herself, she doesn't deserve to inherit Pedro's will at all.. She's not involved in the war, the dawn, Wano nor the Strawhats..
Her time to shine passed already, it was when she went Sulong in WCI..
You don't trick people over 500 chapters, Carrot has never been special or mattered in any way..
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Did i say pedro did not make efforts ? Yeah pedro goal was to find poneglyph and it end with him being purchased by the governement most of his crew leaving him and him losing his friend and one of his eyes to big mom. The guy wanted only to be an adventurer and the governement put a bounty on him because he was searching the poneglyph he was no legend or trying to be. The guy took a lot of l until he finally find the strawhats and accomplish what he wanted.
Pedro says that to carrot only for her ending up being offscreen by Perospero. That obviously how oda want to end her character.
What ? i'm talking about right now.
Pedro says that to carrot only for her ending up being offscreen by Perospero. That obviously how oda want to end her character.
What ? i'm talking about right now.
Carrot isn't even half of the character Pedro was, if she was important at all Oda would have gave her characterisation on par or greater than him.
If he said that for Carrot explicity, she would have had a greater role at that time, Oda didn't even care showing Pedro training Carrot to Sulong because Carrot is irrelevant. All we got from Carrot is, '' centuries? '' '' uh? '' '' what do you mean Pedro? '' '' Pedrooooo ''.. Can she not be involved more than a puppet? Again it was all about Pedro
You can't talk of right now without talking of the before, she has been in the story for a very long time, 3 whole arcs and she was never important. If Carrot was Strawhat material Oda would have made it obvious in Zou, in WCI and in Wano Act 1-2.. She has been useless the whole time
If he said that for Carrot explicity, she would have had a greater role at that time, Oda didn't even care showing Pedro training Carrot to Sulong because Carrot is irrelevant. All we got from Carrot is, '' centuries? '' '' uh? '' '' what do you mean Pedro? '' '' Pedrooooo ''.. Can she not be involved more than a puppet? Again it was all about Pedro
You can't talk of right now without talking of the before, she has been in the story for a very long time, 3 whole arcs and she was never important. If Carrot was Strawhat material Oda would have made it obvious in Zou, in WCI and in Wano Act 1-2.. She has been useless the whole time
He tell her to be patient and then there after she will have her moment to shine. so be patient. and also stop saying that pedro was not talking to carrot.
Carrot having her own subplot right now. She was with the straw hats all over onigashima until she see perospero. Her charcter arc aint done so she might have the needed development for her character to join the strawhats. Her story is a slow burn in the same way pedro story was. Also she did have some prominence in whole cake island.
Yeah carrot is somewhat irrevelant yet oda is often putting her with the strawhats like in onagashima or with jimbei reunion. Why do you think Oda make that choice? Is obviouly make us wondering and doubting the legitimacy of her candidature as a straw hats. He is playing with us with carrot character to surprise us later.
Carrot having her own subplot right now. She was with the straw hats all over onigashima until she see perospero. Her charcter arc aint done so she might have the needed development for her character to join the strawhats. Her story is a slow burn in the same way pedro story was. Also she did have some prominence in whole cake island.
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Yeah carrot is somewhat irrevelant yet oda is often putting her with the strawhats like in onagashima or with jimbei reunion. Why do you think Oda make that choice? Is obviouly make us wondering and doubting the legitimacy of her candidature as a straw hats. He is playing with us with carrot character to surprise us later.
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He didn't tell her to be patient.. I will stop saying that Pedro was not talking to Carrot when Carrot fans stop saying she has inherited Pedro's will because she didn't. Pedro was a great character, Carrot is shit..
Subplot isn't essential to the main plot, thus subpar. She was with the Strawhats doing nothing as always being a background character doing what she's best at..
Pedro and Carrot story don't even compare... She had so much prominence, the chapter which was dedicated to Carrot wasn't named after her but the mink special power, Sulong..
Wanda was there too, Carrot's not special..
Subplot isn't essential to the main plot, thus subpar. She was with the Strawhats doing nothing as always being a background character doing what she's best at..
Pedro and Carrot story don't even compare... She had so much prominence, the chapter which was dedicated to Carrot wasn't named after her but the mink special power, Sulong..
Wanda was there too, Carrot's not special..
Are you denying what the manga show us ? He was talking to who to himself ?
Wanda was barely shown compared to carrot.
Ok Lets have a real talk. Im not going to deny everything you say. Yes she has been with the straw hats and she didn't do much. Right now all the stuff i said those last hours is me trying to understand her character. What her purpose ? why did oda chose to make part of the team to save momonosuke and why did he make her follow the strawhats when she land on onagashima. Why does he and the anime often show her with the strawhats? All the stuff i said was trying to find a explanation to the way she has been written in the story. I think oda trying to trick us with carrot to make us think she just a silly little rabbit with no importance. but maybe i am wrong. If she truly meant to be a background character then why should i care about her learning why the straw hats is important and her whole beef with Perospero. Can you help me understand why ? At this point are you satisfied with oda writing a shitty character.
Wanda was barely shown compared to carrot.
Ok Lets have a real talk. Im not going to deny everything you say. Yes she has been with the straw hats and she didn't do much. Right now all the stuff i said those last hours is me trying to understand her character. What her purpose ? why did oda chose to make part of the team to save momonosuke and why did he make her follow the strawhats when she land on onagashima. Why does he and the anime often show her with the strawhats? All the stuff i said was trying to find a explanation to the way she has been written in the story. I think oda trying to trick us with carrot to make us think she just a silly little rabbit with no importance. but maybe i am wrong. If she truly meant to be a background character then why should i care about her learning why the straw hats is important and her whole beef with Perospero. Can you help me understand why ? At this point are you satisfied with oda writing a shitty character.
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He's broadly speaking about his long life goal while Carrot is listening and not understanding crap. She was just there to be an ear to Pedro's last moment as a fellow mink.
The point is she's there alright, which cancel any fan made interpretation of that scene.
You don't need to ask yourself so many questions, if Carrot was special to become a Strawhat Oda would have made her unique and gave her specific treatment along the way from Zou to Wano to current Onigashima. Whatever Oda decides to do with Carrot, it can't be a Strawhat. A future Strawhat would have received quality attention and care from Oda.
I see 2 options for Carrot
- Oda changed his plans along the way and gave her a lesser role or a plot point to toss her aside
- Oda is slowly leading her character to lose faith and doubt that Luffy will bring about the dawn, switching her allegiance to Kaido
The point is she's there alright, which cancel any fan made interpretation of that scene.
You don't need to ask yourself so many questions, if Carrot was special to become a Strawhat Oda would have made her unique and gave her specific treatment along the way from Zou to Wano to current Onigashima. Whatever Oda decides to do with Carrot, it can't be a Strawhat. A future Strawhat would have received quality attention and care from Oda.
I see 2 options for Carrot
- Oda changed his plans along the way and gave her a lesser role or a plot point to toss her aside
- Oda is slowly leading her character to lose faith and doubt that Luffy will bring about the dawn, switching her allegiance to Kaido
I'm honestly really surprised people still doubt Yamato joining after she declared her intentions again. Seriously, how do ya'll see this playing out where Yamato doesn't join? The only alternative was that she would change her mind now that she knew momo was alive, but that argument is now 100% dead. So what's left? People keep discussing semantics like nicknames and Oden's journal, but if she doesn't join, then seriously, how does that play out?
Okay we have a fandom that want a weakling Carrot and Vivi to join the crew, only duo to their friendship with the crew, while Rayleigh has the same, so him is gonna join?
Yamato is a new fresh woman character with type of CQC brawler powerhouse, something that the crew doesn't have.
Whe we have 2 womans with support capabilities, we about to habe a CQC brawler front line woman fighter.
Yamato is a new fresh woman character with type of CQC brawler powerhouse, something that the crew doesn't have.
Whe we have 2 womans with support capabilities, we about to habe a CQC brawler front line woman fighter.
Having a conversation with Luffy and also having their own dedicated arc where they are the main character is far more important than interacting with everyone in the crew. The arc a potential straw hat is introduced is the best chance where a potential straw hat gets character development and bonding with Luffy.
its funny how you say that meeting every straw hat is a low bar that Yamato hasn't accomplished yet, well if it was a low bar to begin with then it probably wasn't all that important in the first place. Then that means that there are more important things required in becoming a Straw Hat- its not the be all end all. Not to mention that Yamato will most likely get it done by the end of the arc anyway.
Going by your logic, Sanji should have never joined the crew because he never talked to Zoro after he joined, the two only talked directly to each other for the first time after Baratie in the Arlong Park Arc when Sanji confronted Zoro for the first time for Zoro accusing Nami as a traitor. Why did Sanji still join the crew?
Jinbe's never talked to Zoro directly either. And in Wano, Jinbe still refers to Zoro in a formal way by his full name Roronoa Zoro. Why did Jinbe still join the crew?
More important things like being a main character in the arc, and also having the 1 on 1 talk with Luffy, are things that Yamato has that Carrot doesn't.
Besides, I've never seen Carrot ever talk to Robin, even now-so much for the importance of character interaction.
Your argument that: a potential straw hat must meet all of the straw hats and interact with them in order for them to join and its non-negotiable, is a inconsistent and flawed requirement if not every straw hat who joined followed that pattern in the first place.
Meeting most of the straw hats isn't only a extremely low bar, its also a inconsistent and inconsequential one.
its funny how you say that meeting every straw hat is a low bar that Yamato hasn't accomplished yet, well if it was a low bar to begin with then it probably wasn't all that important in the first place. Then that means that there are more important things required in becoming a Straw Hat- its not the be all end all. Not to mention that Yamato will most likely get it done by the end of the arc anyway.
Going by your logic, Sanji should have never joined the crew because he never talked to Zoro after he joined, the two only talked directly to each other for the first time after Baratie in the Arlong Park Arc when Sanji confronted Zoro for the first time for Zoro accusing Nami as a traitor. Why did Sanji still join the crew?
Jinbe's never talked to Zoro directly either. And in Wano, Jinbe still refers to Zoro in a formal way by his full name Roronoa Zoro. Why did Jinbe still join the crew?
More important things like being a main character in the arc, and also having the 1 on 1 talk with Luffy, are things that Yamato has that Carrot doesn't.
Besides, I've never seen Carrot ever talk to Robin, even now-so much for the importance of character interaction.
Your argument that: a potential straw hat must meet all of the straw hats and interact with them in order for them to join and its non-negotiable, is a inconsistent and flawed requirement if not every straw hat who joined followed that pattern in the first place.
Meeting most of the straw hats isn't only a extremely low bar, its also a inconsistent and inconsequential one.
I do not think that Yamato has to meet all the strawhats. But yeah with the way oda writting her she might end up being a stranger to the crew. Look at her encounter with franky she barely see yamato end it up asking who the hell is she. I think it could be funny that luffy present to the crew as a new member and then all the would be like ''ok but who the hell is that girl''
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