[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 10 - Antagonists Vs Protagonists

[Destroya]

Heres a theory

1. Tac silenced flowers [ not necessarily a scum abillity]
2. Natalija took advantage of the silencing to snipe her rival.
3. Tac knows that and that is the reason for the hard defense on Natalija

Like was this TMI or what? Is Ryu mates with these two?

 

[Destroya]

I cannot confirm or deny this of course Lind. But it doesn't stop you from thinking out loud.

So this is a pretty bad post from Light considering Tpein said he did not Drive Light on N1. But Light let Lind believe that that was the case anyway.

 

[Destroya]

If this is Nat then she’s just a role block

No need to hard scum lock!

TAC does nothing but defend Nat.

 

[Destroya]

I'm just saying you shouldn't use wu names as absolute proof of alignment.

If Nat flips Wolf, I'd be willing to bet Ryu is Wolf as well.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

So T-Pien claimed to be Dependable and basically admitted to saving Cal during N2. When I pushed about it the reason was basically resolved as: he saved Cal because he read Cal as town. But what about all this right before Cal got lynched?

Lol flower is based

Not a fan of your freaking out over the flower vote.

Unvote.

Vote Lynch Cal.

Good point.
He seems to be trying to not wanna vote ripped cal even tho there are apparently some mechanical reasons.
Either he knows they are not correct or he just doesnt wanna vote for a m8

Stop game throwing,
Take your loss like a man.

This was directed at Cal.

One is lowkey mechanical
Get with it.

This was in response to Nat vs Cal and why he wanted Cal.

Your mates see the writing on the wall maybe.
How can they save you from mechanical stuff.
They can't .
Best thing to do is join it or what ekko tried and feign ignorance

So tell me why Dependable saved Cal? Are you saying he changed his mind about Cal being Scum after he lynched him and during the night?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Could you imagine if we had actually followed this move in D2 instead of lynching Cal? Probably changes the game completely.

It’s what I wanted lol.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

So this is a pretty bad post from Light considering Tpein said he did not Drive Light on N1. But Light let Lind believe that that was the case anyway.

Light wouldn’t have known if he was redirected.

 

[Destroya]

I would like to use up one claim today, tho.

So one claim left?

So who wants to claim?

So Fuji takes the spot?

I'm fine with Fuji. I can claim tomorrow, too.

Someone was seen analyzing something

Unvote.

Vote Lynch RippedCal.

I have the feeling you're scum, hombre.

So I just want to talk about D2 and the progression of Flower and her Lie Detect. Early on in D2, she tried to reserve a spot for her claim and even agreed with Fuji that they were going to be the claims for that day. If you're a Lie Detect, it makes sense that you'd want to have a spot to claim your result. However, you can see she backs off of that and is quite content to let others claim instead of her. It's not until a bit later that Flower decides to Lie Detect Cal, presumably post 696. I'm not really sure why she'd choose to Lie Detect someone after both claims had been used knowing that she'd have important information she couldn't exactly explain without a claim. The thing is, Cal called her out for having a Lie Detect in post 748 so that idea was already floating out there, which I why I was so upset with the way she claimed Lie Detect in D3. It's tough for me to just accept this as bad play.

 

[Destroya]

Man, let’s just lynch him, I cannot believe he acts like this as town

Vote lynch RippedCal

Nat jumps on Cal after Flower's claim fairly quickly.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Nat jumps on Cal after Flower's claim fairly quickly.

Nat was trying not to get lynched lol. They were the runaway favorite.

 

[Destroya]

I have a strong scum read.

Please Fuji.

Like the way Flower now wants to use this Lie Detect as gospel AFTER both claims have been used just doesn't sit well with me. If you are Town Lie Detect and this is how you want to go after someone, you definitely reserve a spot for a claim and don't let anyone take it.

 

[Destroya]

Nat was trying not to get lynched lol. They were the runaway favorite.

I understand. But this is just another thing that happens to be a big coincidence involving Flower. Nat has about six votes on her at this point in the game until Flower claims she checked Cal (remember that check was WRONG).

 

[Destroya]

Vote Lynch Cal

Fuji's shift to Cal. He believed Flower fairly easily despite thinking he had a 100 check on Nat.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

So I just want to talk about D2 and the progression of Flower and her Lie Detect. Early on in D2, she tried to reserve a spot for her claim and even agreed with Fuji that they were going to be the claims for that day. If you're a Lie Detect, it makes sense that you'd want to have a spot to claim your result. However, you can see she backs off of that and is quite content to let others claim instead of her. It's not until a bit later that Flower decides to Lie Detect Cal, presumably post 696. I'm not really sure why she'd choose to Lie Detect someone after both claims had been used knowing that she'd have important information she couldn't exactly explain without a claim. The thing is, Cal called her out for having a Lie Detect in post 748 so that idea was already floating out there, which I why I was so upset with the way she claimed Lie Detect in D3. It's tough for me to just accept this as bad play.

I’m not going to say it isn’t a bad move. But it’s come down to Flower vs Mafia 2 out of 3 days now.

The Cal move was a suicide play. If she made it as Scum it was even worse than her claim move as Town. If you can’t accept she was that bad at Town, idk how you can accept her being even worse as team Scum.

I won’t completely rule out her being independent, but she was one of the driving forces behind taking out TAC. And TAC wanted her dead. Mafia appears to want her dead and that’s automatically a plus for possibly being Town.

 

[Destroya]

So a gut feelin

ain’t gonna be peelin’

let’s see if this gets resistance or not

then if it does we cook him in a lobster pot

vote lynch Cal

TAC getting on Cal.

 

[Destroya]

I’m not going to say it isn’t a bad move. But it’s come down to Flower vs Mafia 2 out of 3 days now.

The Cal move was a suicide play. If she made it as Scum it was even worse than her claim move as Town. If you can’t accept she was that bad at Town, idk how you can accept her being even worse as team Scum.

I won’t completely rule out her being independent, but she was one of the driving forces behind taking out TAC. And TAC wanted her dead. Mafia appears to want her dead and that’s automatically a plus for possibly being Town.

I'll get to TAC vs Nat eventually. I think I'm almost through D2 here.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I'll get to TAC vs Nat eventually. I think I'm almost through D2 here.

You need to be check out D2 T-Pien. And then his and my interaction today.

 

[Destroya]

I really don't think a fake check against Cal if Flower is Wolf is a bad move like everyone seems to think. Look at how much we've discussed this? It's pretty tough for Town to prove that Flower is lying about that Lie Detect, especially when abilities aren't revealed when someone flips. Cal was confident that he had something that would have shown Flower is lying, but obviously when he flipped we never got to see his full role.

 

[Destroya]

Also Flower was really never in any danger of being lynched in D3, it was firmly Nat vs TAC. However, it's pretty clear that Flower was the opposite lynch against Tobi, which is in her favor.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Also Flower was really never in any danger of being lynched in D3, it was firmly Nat vs TAC. However, it's pretty clear that Flower was the opposite lynch against Tobi, which is in her favor.

TAC was pushing Flower and Flower was pushing TAC. Odd interaction for teammates in that situation.