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Only Kobe fans out here even trying to debate that 
like your guy @Nidai_Kitetsu
Its more than just rings then?
like your guy @Nidai_Kitetsu Its more than just rings then?
Only Kobe fans out here even trying to debate that like your guy @Nidai_Kitetsu
Its more than just rings then?
like your guy @Nidai_KitetsuIts more than just rings then?
Only Kobe fans out here even trying to debate that like your guy @Nidai_Kitetsu
Its more than just rings then?
like your guy @Nidai_KitetsuIts more than just rings then?
Dont act like rings dont matter, they play for rings
wdym “the league was won by Jews”
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Rings definitely matter they cannot be used to paint the entire picture though, which is why I said it is a moot and weak point to use against Lebron when talking about if Kobe is better or not. We can’t only look at their finals record and say thats what determines who’s better.
Oh ok. And nah I don’t consider those rings to be equivalent. Me and @Jiihad were bringing that up to showcase that you can’t use rings to determine who’s the better player.
The reason why rings aren’t equivalent is simple. For example Dirk’s 2011 ring is more valuable than any ring KD has. Lebron’s 2016 ring is more valuable than any ring Kobe has, so on and so forth.
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Oh ok. And nah I don’t consider those rings to be equivalent. Me and @Jiihad were bringing that up to showcase that you can’t use rings to determine who’s the better player.
The reason why rings aren’t equivalent is simple. For example Dirk’s 2011 ring is more valuable than any ring KD has. Lebron’s 2016 ring is more valuable than any ring Kobe has, so on and so forth.
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2011 is the only underperformance that comes to mind, 2007 they had no business even being in the finals (we are talking about a 22 yr old Lebron carrying a trash roster) and in the other losses he performed well enough to give them a chance even in some unfortunate situations. This myth about Lebron not being clutch is asinine, he has faced some good EC teams, dismissing them as “bums” just cuz they are the ones he had most of his clutch moments against pretty much tells me that my job here is done. The stats speak for themselves.
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Lmao aight, so we gonna just ignore game winners and clutch moments just cuz he’s going against inferior teams? I can name like 5 teams better than that Toronto squad, the 2012 Celtics, 2011 Bulls, 2013-2014 Pacers, 2015 Hawks, but I digress.
He also had clutch moments in the finals, stats like these just aren’t refering to the East btw:
So Lebron still ain’t clutch I guess, citing the East’s overall inferiority to the West is such a cop out response to the fact that Lebron has shown to be clutch throughout his career when the situation has called for it. Meanwhile Kobe has had moments where he shoots his team out of the game because of mamba mentality, with Lebron that has never happened.
He also had clutch moments in the finals, stats like these just aren’t refering to the East btw:
So Lebron still ain’t clutch I guess, citing the East’s overall inferiority to the West is such a cop out response to the fact that Lebron has shown to be clutch throughout his career when the situation has called for it. Meanwhile Kobe has had moments where he shoots his team out of the game because of mamba mentality, with Lebron that has never happened.
Lmao aight, so we gonna just ignore game winners and clutch moments just cuz he’s going against inferior teams? I can name like 5 teams better than that Toronto squad, the 2012 Celtics, 2011 Bulls, 2013-2014 Pacers, 2015 Hawks, but I digress.
He also had clutch moments in the finals, stats like these just aren’t refering to the East btw:
So Lebron still ain’t clutch I guess, citing the East’s overall inferiority to the West is such a cop out response to the fact that Lebron has shown to be clutch throughout his career when the situation has called for it. Meanwhile Kobe has had moments where he shoots his team out of the game because of mamba mentality, with Lebron that has never happened.
He also had clutch moments in the finals, stats like these just aren’t refering to the East btw:
So Lebron still ain’t clutch I guess, citing the East’s overall inferiority to the West is such a cop out response to the fact that Lebron has shown to be clutch throughout his career when the situation has called for it. Meanwhile Kobe has had moments where he shoots his team out of the game because of mamba mentality, with Lebron that has never happened.
Today's numbers are way more inflated cause of shitty defense rules, please don't compare LeBron with Kobe & especially MJ using ppg.
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MJ is not part of this conversation. You do realize that a good chunk of these numbers come from the same time period Kobe was playing? Regardless, you said Lebron “is anything but clutch” but numbers say otherwise and I don’t see what different defense rules have anything to do with the statistic I brought earlier
C'mon man! Are we really using this as an excuse? The guy was playing in 5 straight Finals prior to this, lol.
Not saying this is true but this is an excuse to post this video 'cause LOLZ.
Watching Rockets-Clippers again. Not saying PJ is a Kawhi stopper but he matches him well when Kawhi wants to play bully ball. I saw that last season too when TOR played against HOU. Made him work.
Not saying this is true but this is an excuse to post this video 'cause LOLZ.
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Watching Rockets-Clippers again. Not saying PJ is a Kawhi stopper but he matches him well when Kawhi wants to play bully ball. I saw that last season too when TOR played against HOU. Made him work.
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