Their defeats also were not "clear cut". We don't even know what the Korean spoiler is insinuating when it says they were defeated. We can't see the pictures on the page and make a conclusion ourselves. Zoro was "defeated" on the roof, so was Luffy. Jack was also "defeated". Ulti has been "defeated" 3 times now.
Essentially: Text can tell one thing, but pics paint an entirely different picture (literally) about scenes. Does Jinbe look confident he won? Does he notice something off? Can you tell by his face or by expressions made on the page?
These are important things to take note of. That's why I never take spoilers for granted before seeing pics or at least reading Redon's summary.
Every Yc1 has some combat trait that makes them special/hax except King
Katakuri: adv. CoO + CoC
Marco: hax af regen and shockwaves (possibly internal damage?)
Beckman: genius level IQ (highest in East Blue which is literally larger than Earth)
King: fire attacks (something that literally everyone has at this point)
:shame:
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