On the definition of swordsman ...one piece standards. One is a swordsman if;
1. Stated by Oda to be such
2. Fights primarily with a sword
3. Fights at their strongest with a sword.
These can be individual or a combination.
Under 1, we have Fugi , Law, Zoro, etc
Under 2, we have Zoro, Mihawk, Fugi, Shiki, Roger (could fit here based on facts we know) etc
Under 3, the above mentioned, Roger, Kizaru (from what we know vs Ray), Ray , Brook etc.
Just holding a sword doesn't make you a swordsman. Being trained in swordsmanship at just a particular point in life doesn't make you a swordsman. Marines are automatically thought swordsmanship when they are rookies. Just like Copy and Helmeppo. At that moment, they would be considered as swordsmen since that is their default position as Marines. However, as they grow, they move towards what fighting style they like. Coby became a fighter by focusing more on brawling than swords and Helmeppo decided to fight with knives.
To be one, swords are to be constantly used by the character especially when they are fighting seriously.
1. Stated by Oda to be such
2. Fights primarily with a sword
3. Fights at their strongest with a sword.
These can be individual or a combination.
Under 1, we have Fugi , Law, Zoro, etc
Under 2, we have Zoro, Mihawk, Fugi, Shiki, Roger (could fit here based on facts we know) etc
Under 3, the above mentioned, Roger, Kizaru (from what we know vs Ray), Ray , Brook etc.
Just holding a sword doesn't make you a swordsman. Being trained in swordsmanship at just a particular point in life doesn't make you a swordsman. Marines are automatically thought swordsmanship when they are rookies. Just like Copy and Helmeppo. At that moment, they would be considered as swordsmen since that is their default position as Marines. However, as they grow, they move towards what fighting style they like. Coby became a fighter by focusing more on brawling than swords and Helmeppo decided to fight with knives.
To be one, swords are to be constantly used by the character especially when they are fighting seriously.
Damn we got another one 
And even if he never dreamt to be the strongest of all times Oda will still turn the new gen the strongest
Why putting Mihawk and Vista together in the first place hmmmmm
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And even if he never dreamt to be the strongest of all times Oda will still turn the new gen the strongest
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What will happen if mihawk and vista will die
zoro will be the last swordsman ?
zoro will be the last swordsman ?
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/swordsman?s=t
man, this forum really must have a lot of people who don't understand what basic English words mean
man, this forum really must have a lot of people who don't understand what basic English words mean
Yes, Kizaru is a swordsman
he was strong enough with the sword to spar with Rayleigh and in a pure sword fight, he could have easily beaten people who are confirmed swordsmen like Law and pre-skip zoro.
Does that mean that he has to be weaker than mihawk? No, because Mihawk's title, presumably is only relevant if he beats his opponent in a sword duel. For example, if Mihawk fights big mom and big mom beats mihawk with a hurricane instead of with Napoleon, then big mom ISN'T WSSM.
Kizaru has many fighting styles, swordsman being one of them
he was strong enough with the sword to spar with Rayleigh and in a pure sword fight, he could have easily beaten people who are confirmed swordsmen like Law and pre-skip zoro.
Does that mean that he has to be weaker than mihawk? No, because Mihawk's title, presumably is only relevant if he beats his opponent in a sword duel. For example, if Mihawk fights big mom and big mom beats mihawk with a hurricane instead of with Napoleon, then big mom ISN'T WSSM.
Kizaru has many fighting styles, swordsman being one of them
He is not a swordsman, though. At least not in sense of Zoro and Mihawk.
Correction: Kizaru was strong enough to spar with a rusty old Rayleigh who hasn't touched a sword since decades - and Ray still cut his cheek during a short clash.
Kizaru doesn't have to use his sword to destroy Law and pre-TS Zoro.
No, since swordsmanship isn't his main forte.
He can perform skilled swordsmanship but if we look at the OP lore, he isn't considered to be a swordsman in sense of Zoro and Mihawk.
There are even far less reasons to consider Kizaru as a swordsman instead of Roger, lol.
Correction: Kizaru was strong enough to spar with a rusty old Rayleigh who hasn't touched a sword since decades - and Ray still cut his cheek during a short clash.
Kizaru doesn't have to use his sword to destroy Law and pre-TS Zoro.
No, since swordsmanship isn't his main forte.
He can perform skilled swordsmanship but if we look at the OP lore, he isn't considered to be a swordsman in sense of Zoro and Mihawk.
There are even far less reasons to consider Kizaru as a swordsman instead of Roger, lol.