Future Events Red-Hair vs Blackbeard - The future after Wano - BIG NEWS!!!

Who is going to crush who during Wano?

  • BBPs crush RHPs

  • RHPs crush BBPs

  • They wont fight during Wano


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#21
I voted before reading :josad:
You know it makes sense when i think about it because it matches Oda's comments about shanks making moves next year and probably the only thing he can do is fight BB.
Although Oda could mean Shanks recruiting Mihawk as an ally which would be big too.
 

stairs-kun

Spoiler Provider
#22
It feels so long since my last thread and I feel the need to flex my future sight again...

We have been in Wanokuni for more than 3 years already, yes, 3 long years and the end is still not in sight.
We know that the events happening in Wano will end up shocking the world but what news will shock us and the Strawhats?

I am here to bring you a possible future and events that might be revealed to us once Wano is finished.
Strawhats will probably leave Wano as the mighties pirate organization in all the seas, credited for taking down an alliance of two Emperors.
Now, the issue is that it is not yet time for Strawhats to be the undisputed stars of the show since the era will end up belonging to someone else.
The shift is supposed to go from Kaido the strongest and LinLin as greatest of the current era to Mihawk as strongest and Shanks as greatest.

The two central figures that are linked to Zoro and Luffy will take over the era coming after the ex-Rocks members that will fall down in Wanokuni.
We already have hints towards the wind blowing in that direction - Oda said that Shanks will be making a move and Mihawk is facing 10 warships.
Now, how will Shanks steal the show from the Strawhats? Taking down Kaido&BM alliance isnt easily overshadowed, close to impossible.
The credit for taking down both of them might not go to Luffy if Kidd and Law take down Big Mom so the job gets easier for Shanks.

I think Red-Hair pirates will crush the Blackbeard pirates in a flawless victory, without casualties and that way establish themselves as the crew they were hyped up to be - crew without weak targets. That is exactly what was hyped up during the reveal of Shanks' bounty. You might think Oda wouldnt do that to Blackbeard pirates? He would, he already did it once. There will be a lot of parallels involving RHPs and BBPs in the future of One Piece, if my future sight is on spot.


Their history begins a long time ago when Shanks was an apprentice on Roger's ship while Blackbeard was an apprentice on Whitebeard's ship.
Shanks was always connected to Blackbeard since that is his ultimate purpose in the story. Blackbeard is also the one who gave Shanks his signature scar.

Shanks came specifically to meet Whitebeard in order to ask him to stay away from Blackbeard since he knew how cunning and strong he was firsthand. He knew Ace would be in trouble for going after Teach and he warned Whitebeard who ultimately didnt listen to Shanks' advice and everything went downhill from that point onward.

Almost any time we see Shanks, he is concerned with what Blackbeard is doing.
The certain pirate about who he wants to talk and why he bothered to go all the way up to Mariejois is for sure none other than Marshall D Teach.

You might wonder why would he go there and talk about Blackbeard? It is probably because Shanks knows that Blackbeard is creating a powerful crew and that he cannot take him out without big sacrifices and thus he is probably talking to Gorosei to convince them that sooner or later, Blackbeard will come after them too and they should lend him help to crush him before it is too late.

I dont know if the World Government will ultimately lend Shanks some help or not but he will end up having help which will make the victory easy for him and he wont have any losses on his side. The last time we saw Blackbeard, he was going after something that was connected to the Navy... What could have that been? An ancient weapon? Unlikely for Blackbeard to obtain something like that at this point. What he could be after might actually be Shichibukai who are getting abandoned by the WG and hunted by the Navy. He is looking to absorb them into his crew and grow stronger.

What if they are after Mihawk who ends up joining hands with Shanks to crush the Blackbeard Pirates? That way both Shanks and Mihawk let the world know that the era belongs to them. Mihawk is just one man but he is enough to tilt the scales in the favor of RHPs and ensure a victory.
Now, let's get back to Blackbeard pirates being crushed and the parallels - it already happened in Impel Down when Magellan crushed BBPs and just like in ID, the Blackbeard pirates will get their revenge which means they will end up crushing Shanks and his crew eventually.

You might ask how will Blackbeard pirates go from being crushed to crushing RHPs? Thanks to Moriah's and Shiryu's powers, they will probably escape death or being imprisoned and will return with another parallel - at the end of a great war, just like in Marineford, just this time it will be at the end of the war with WG. That is probably when Blackbeard will kill Shanks paralleling Blackbeard killing Whitebeard. They will continue to secretly hunt for powerful Devil Fruits and make themselves stronger, many of them still have not eaten a devil fruit and some might obtain a second one by feeding their weapons to it, Funkfreed was one big foreshadowing.


Shanks will probably join hands with Luffy to take down the World Government after he learns about the Void Century.
Meanwhile, Blackbeard still has to reveal who his 10th titanic captain is and it is probably a big name.
A name worth keeping in secret. I have entertained the idea that it could be Weevil since he is another connection to Rocks which Blackbeard has too through the name of his ship and probably the same ambition of becoming King of the World while Weevil is connected through his mother who was on Rocks' ship...
However, Weevil could appear at the end of Wano or in Elbaf as well and in that case, the 10th titanic captain would have to be someone else.

Anyway, Shanks and Blackbeard are two opposites, a day and night. Shanks will grab an incomplete victory for now and ultimately end up killed by Blackbeard during the WG war and that way, it will be Luffy who brings the dawn again and frees the world of the night that Blackbeard will try to engulf the world in.

Bookmark this thread and see how much my FS got right. :cheers:
Who gave you the spoils?:beckmoji:
 
#23
It feels so long since my last thread and I feel the need to flex my future sight again...

We have been in Wanokuni for more than 3 years already, yes, 3 long years and the end is still not in sight.
We know that the events happening in Wano will end up shocking the world but what news will shock us and the Strawhats?

I am here to bring you a possible future and events that might be revealed to us once Wano is finished.
Strawhats will probably leave Wano as the mighties pirate organization in all the seas, credited for taking down an alliance of two Emperors.
Now, the issue is that it is not yet time for Strawhats to be the undisputed stars of the show since the era will end up belonging to someone else.
The shift is supposed to go from Kaido the strongest and LinLin as greatest of the current era to Mihawk as strongest and Shanks as greatest.

The two central figures that are linked to Zoro and Luffy will take over the era coming after the ex-Rocks members that will fall down in Wanokuni.
We already have hints towards the wind blowing in that direction - Oda said that Shanks will be making a move and Mihawk is facing 10 warships.
Now, how will Shanks steal the show from the Strawhats? Taking down Kaido&BM alliance isnt easily overshadowed, close to impossible.
The credit for taking down both of them might not go to Luffy if Kidd and Law take down Big Mom so the job gets easier for Shanks.

I think Red-Hair pirates will crush the Blackbeard pirates in a flawless victory, without casualties and that way establish themselves as the crew they were hyped up to be - crew without weak targets. That is exactly what was hyped up during the reveal of Shanks' bounty. You might think Oda wouldnt do that to Blackbeard pirates? He would, he already did it once. There will be a lot of parallels involving RHPs and BBPs in the future of One Piece, if my future sight is on spot.


Their history begins a long time ago when Shanks was an apprentice on Roger's ship while Blackbeard was an apprentice on Whitebeard's ship.
Shanks was always connected to Blackbeard since that is his ultimate purpose in the story. Blackbeard is also the one who gave Shanks his signature scar.

Shanks came specifically to meet Whitebeard in order to ask him to stay away from Blackbeard since he knew how cunning and strong he was firsthand. He knew Ace would be in trouble for going after Teach and he warned Whitebeard who ultimately didnt listen to Shanks' advice and everything went downhill from that point onward.

Almost any time we see Shanks, he is concerned with what Blackbeard is doing.
The certain pirate about who he wants to talk and why he bothered to go all the way up to Mariejois is for sure none other than Marshall D Teach.

You might wonder why would he go there and talk about Blackbeard? It is probably because Shanks knows that Blackbeard is creating a powerful crew and that he cannot take him out without big sacrifices and thus he is probably talking to Gorosei to convince them that sooner or later, Blackbeard will come after them too and they should lend him help to crush him before it is too late.

I dont know if the World Government will ultimately lend Shanks some help or not but he will end up having help which will make the victory easy for him and he wont have any losses on his side. The last time we saw Blackbeard, he was going after something that was connected to the Navy... What could have that been? An ancient weapon? Unlikely for Blackbeard to obtain something like that at this point. What he could be after might actually be Shichibukai who are getting abandoned by the WG and hunted by the Navy. He is looking to absorb them into his crew and grow stronger.

What if they are after Mihawk who ends up joining hands with Shanks to crush the Blackbeard Pirates? That way both Shanks and Mihawk let the world know that the era belongs to them. Mihawk is just one man but he is enough to tilt the scales in the favor of RHPs and ensure a victory.
Now, let's get back to Blackbeard pirates being crushed and the parallels - it already happened in Impel Down when Magellan crushed BBPs and just like in ID, the Blackbeard pirates will get their revenge which means they will end up crushing Shanks and his crew eventually.

You might ask how will Blackbeard pirates go from being crushed to crushing RHPs? Thanks to Moriah's and Shiryu's powers, they will probably escape death or being imprisoned and will return with another parallel - at the end of a great war, just like in Marineford, just this time it will be at the end of the war with WG. That is probably when Blackbeard will kill Shanks paralleling Blackbeard killing Whitebeard. They will continue to secretly hunt for powerful Devil Fruits and make themselves stronger, many of them still have not eaten a devil fruit and some might obtain a second one by feeding their weapons to it, Funkfreed was one big foreshadowing.


Shanks will probably join hands with Luffy to take down the World Government after he learns about the Void Century.
Meanwhile, Blackbeard still has to reveal who his 10th titanic captain is and it is probably a big name.
A name worth keeping in secret. I have entertained the idea that it could be Weevil since he is another connection to Rocks which Blackbeard has too through the name of his ship and probably the same ambition of becoming King of the World while Weevil is connected through his mother who was on Rocks' ship...
However, Weevil could appear at the end of Wano or in Elbaf as well and in that case, the 10th titanic captain would have to be someone else.

Anyway, Shanks and Blackbeard are two opposites, a day and night. Shanks will grab an incomplete victory for now and ultimately end up killed by Blackbeard during the WG war and that way, it will be Luffy who brings the dawn again and frees the world of the night that Blackbeard will try to engulf the world in.

Bookmark this thread and see how much my FS got right. :cheers:
Imo the only way Shanks can beat BB if he goes all-out not only as a fighter but also a tactician. He must play chess and strategize to win, the crew putting one trap and ambush and strike the weakness anytime they can. After all that, even, the chance is real slim. When they finally fight, BB will have become so strong he surpasses Prime WB or Prime Roger by significant margin. If only Shanks goes full all-out and has access to use an Ancient Weapon when he is cornered, Shanks and RHP can win. Otherwise nothin gonna stop BB now, after Kaidou is BB's time to shine and rip everyone to chunks of meat.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#24
Blackbeard honestly will need to defeat someone or do something shocking in order for his bounty to rise again. Because Luffy will surpass Blackbeard's CURRENT bounty EASILY after Wano, and Oda needs to keep Luffy as an underdog in his fight against Blackbeard by making BB's bounty higher than Luffy.
Yeah and he will probably raise his bounty once again post Elbaf since he will likely tackle Big Mom and vanquish her too.

Luffy's bounty will perhaps venture into the 3 billions realm before he even gets to enter the final war.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#25
Imo the only way Shanks can beat BB if he goes all-out not only as a fighter but also a tactician. He must play chess and strategize to win, the crew putting one trap and ambush and strike the weakness anytime they can. After all that, even, the chance is real slim. When they finally fight, BB will have become so strong he surpasses Prime WB or Prime Roger by significant margin. If only Shanks goes full all-out and has access to use an Ancient Weapon when he is cornered, Shanks and RHP can win. Otherwise nothin gonna stop BB now, after Kaidou is BB's time to shine and rip everyone to chunks of meat.
I guess you didnt read the thread, huh? :goyea:
 
#26
I guess you didnt read the thread, huh? :goyea:
I read it, but be it in Wano or final war imo RHP wont win. Even with Mihawk helping, even if Shanks is stronger than Mihawk or Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, i don't think BB can be defeated since Luffy's win in Wano. We may see hype of Shanks and RHP etc in the past, but it won't be against 2 DF BB. If its against 1 DF BB which was before MF, maybe. But if its post-TS, imo its unlikely.

If RHP will be hyped i think it will be against Marines or WG, for example a powerful admiral like Kizaru goes to Shanks' territory and wanna capture them, Shanks tells the others not to interfere, and Shanks actually defeats Kizaru then kills him in a cruel way like impaling his brain with Gryphon from above fatality-style while Shanks doesn't even bat an eye, it can be a powerlevel hype but more importantly also emphasizes Shanks' mercilessness and character twist, showing Luffy's mentor in a new and different kind of vibe compared to the previous good mentor vibe.

Tldr; i think Shanks will use marines or WG as hypetool instead of BB.
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#27
I read it, but be it in Wano or final war imo RHP wont win. Even with Mihawk helping, even if Shanks is stronger than Mihawk or Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, i don't think BB can be defeated since Luffy's win in Wano. We may see hype of Shanks and RHP etc in the past, but it won't be against 2 DF BB. If its against 1 DF BB, maybe.
You overrate Blackbeard, he is nothing special compared to other top tiers, more or less the same...
I said if Shanks has the backing of WG or Mihawk, victory will come without serious consequences for him.
Such a scenario is very plausible. Blackbeard will most likely re-appear at the end of WG war, just like in MF.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#29
why is it unlikely for Teach to obtain an Ancient Weapon ?
i think he was gunning for Pluton , and i think his timing was not bad , since the Marines were so busy post Reverie
How do you see him handle it, where does he go with it, how does he use it?
 
#30
How do you see him handle it, where does he go with it, how does he use it?
well , if i'm not missing anything , the only description so far we've got for Pluton is that it is a very desctructive warship .

and Teach brought his entire crew with him , so including Burgess who is the Helmsman , therefore maybe Burgess will be the one steering it

with it , he may be confident to go straight to Shanks , considering it is such a powerful thing , that Crocodile said it could obliterate an island with 1 shot

i assume Teach will bombard anything he wants to with this ship , including RHP and imo Mihawk as well
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#31
well , if i'm not missing anything , the only description so far we've got for Pluton is that it is a very desctructive warship .

and Teach brought his entire crew with him , so including Burgess who is the Helmsman , therefore maybe Burgess will be the one steering it

with it , he may be confident to go straight to Shanks , considering it is such a powerful thing , that Crocodile said it could obliterate an island with 1 shot

i assume Teach will bombard anything he wants to with this ship , including RHP and imo Mihawk as well
Perhaps but it seems weird timeline-wise. RHP should be meeting SHs soon, I doubt Blackbeard will crush Shanks before he meets Luffy.
That's why I thought that it is unlikely for Teach to obtain it now but we will see.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#32
why is it unlikely for Teach to obtain an Ancient Weapon ?

i think he was gunning for Pluton , and i think his timing was not bad , since the Marines were so busy post Reverie
It's possible. He might manage to capture Shirahoshi though it's unlikely he will head that far.

Uranus is still a mystery and perhaps he will earn enough info to solve it.

Pluton is less likely imo because he would likely need Franky's help to achieve it.
 
#33
Omg.. I just realized once word gets out that the SH's finessed Big Mom twice, her reputation is going down the drain. How you get punked in your own turf, then get another L while teaming up with the Beast Pirates. Smh...

In regards to Shanks and BB. I dont want Oda to kill off Shanks before he meets up with Luffy. That would be lame as hell. We waited way too long for that interaction to happen.
 
#34
How do you see him handle it, where does he go with it, how does he use it?
If Teach gets Pluton i would bet he attacks Marijoa with it, although that is end of series stuff.

It's possible. He might manage to capture Shirahoshi though it's unlikely he will head that far.

Uranus is still a mystery and perhaps he will earn enough info to solve it.

Pluton is less likely imo because he would likely need Franky's help to achieve it.
Uranus is probably Momo.:josad:
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
#35
It's certainly plausible. Oda hasn't been afraid of depicting Teach losing. His path mirrors Luffy, so he'll struggle to become Pirate King in order to face his nemesis.

Meanwhile, Shanks has been built up for years. He's not going through some growth because he is designed as a milestone for Luffy to surpass. So there should be some form of pay off for all the years he's been teased. If that's not through fighting Luffy, then beating Teach the first time could be it.

Good thread, Nik-san.
 
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