Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1023 Spoilers Discussion

[Cross_Marian]

Katakuri has much better feats

We don’t know. This just the beginning of the fight. People need to stay calm.

 

[BOCCHI]

That's on luffy.
Zoro and sanji are 2 years older and stronger than him.

How did I not think of that!! How wrong can I be these days !!

 

[Midnight Delight]

Katakuri has much better feats

Only Speed feats tbh

 

[BOCCHI]

But I wonder how is sanji upper body is not spinning also

Just ignore that part it doesn’t matter to Oda lol

 

[DonkeyKong]

There's a low chance of that happening. I'm almost sure Sanji and Zoro will pull some new attack or PU and end the fight mid diff. That's how almost all their fights have been like.

The only character that has extreme diff fights in the series is Luffy.

Luffy Katakuri fight really sets the bar high for me so I'm hoping the same for this fight. But I agree with you, the chance is low.

 

[God Buggy]

King shits on Katakuri so bad

Hes the strongest yc with ben

Ben destroys the shit out of King.

 

[Peroroncino]

King is just a poor mans Katakuri , he even copied his biker style

lol Ben portrayal is miles better than King

@TheAncientCenturion this man is too salty cause king is a superior sanji and kata all at the same time

 

[Akagaminoproduction]

when he punched zoro he had spikes on his gloves
if zoro didn t blocked it he wouldve had holes in his face

Will of Loose D eye is strong

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Facts

Facts driven by agenda. We all know why you don't want to accept King's greatness

 

[Master OF Haki]

Am I the only one who doesn't fill anything???

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@TheAncientCenturion this man is too salty cause king is a superior sanji and kata all at the same time

Base King is a god damn monster. He's going to toe with Zoro, the same guy who was a monster and arguably the most impressive Rooftop Supernova.

 

[Guiding_Thunder]

This chapter is gonna add another factor into the "What is a swordsman debate". One piece has a lot of nuances when it comes to titles such as World's strongest man or swordsman or creature.

Putting agendas aside, Consider pitting someone like Roger who uses a sword and is considered the apex of piracy against Mihawk who is considered the World's strongest swordsman, factually speaking there should not be an argument, Mihawk's title should put him above Roger, but yet i'm sure majority of one piece fans don't believe this, why ?

The problem I think is that the title of swordsmen no longer has meaning, and there is no difference between a sword user and a swordsmen. When you have guys like Kaku, Cabaji and maybe even Pica as swordsmen, that's a problem because they have other abilities to rely on, for example Kaku has Rokushiki and his devil fruit aside from using swords. Another problem then comes when you move to people like Big Mom and Kizaru who also use swords and should be considered as swordsmen, but in truth are they really ?

Zoro's comment this chapter regarding King not really being a swordsman is important in establishing a difference between people like Mihawk and Big Mom, she shouldn't be placed in the same group as Mihawk because with or without a sword she is still in the OP top 10, which I cant say for Mihawk.

 

[draganax]

How did I not think of that!! How wrong can I be these days !!

I just used the logic of ace being stronger than luffy.
It came in one speech bubble, so it can be easily overlooked.

 

[The White Crane]

Oda was put into a corner with Momo, he show him as a cry boy and count progress him enough for the huge challenge.
Oda is putting so much effort for random characters that forget to develop enough the major player in this arc beside Luffy and kind of Zoro too.

This. :cheers:

Momoron is Oda's biggest failure in character writing. He is to the One Piece fandom what Rey Skywalker is to the Star Wars fandom.

Momoron isn't One Piece's least popular major character for nothing.

 

[Thabeast]

if there was a SBS Oda would called King swordsman just like he did with Law or Fujitora
he don't give a shit

Why would he contradict his manga? You sound like you're coping

 

[MarineHQ]

Only Speed feats tbh

Nah. Strength wise Katakuri has feats of trashing Elephant Gun, enduring and pounding Boundman, not mentioning how he is basically better in every Haki stat

 

[God Buggy]

@Gol D. Roger What diff does King give Shiryu?

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Here’s my question guys
After seeing this chapter and how ALL 4 characters look impressive and not even close to going all out (King/Queen/Zoro/Sanji) and not even tapping into possible power ups for Zoro/Sanji mid fight (CoC mastery for Zoro / Exoskeleton for Sanji)

how many chapters do you guys expect those two fights to take?

I am HOPING that 3 for each… 6 in total

or they can all be drawn in 6 chapters where each chapter has half of Sanjivs Queen and half of Zoro vs King and both fight end in last chapter on the 6th

 

[Indigo]

This chapter is gonna add another factor into the "What is a swordsman debate". One piece has a lot of nuances when it comes to titles such as World's strongest man or swordsman or creature.

Putting agendas aside, Consider pitting someone like Roger who uses a sword and is considered the apex of piracy against Mihawk who is considered the World's strongest swordsman, factually speaking there should not be an argument, Mihawk's title should put him above Roger, but yet i'm sure majority of one piece fans don't believe this, why ?

The problem I think is that the title of swordsmen no longer has meaning, and there is no difference between a sword user and a swordsmen. When you have guys like Kaku, Cabaji and maybe even Pica as swordsmen, that's a problem because they have other abilities to rely on, for example Kaku has Rokushiki and his devil fruit aside from using swords. Another problem then comes when you move to people like Big Mom and Kizaru who also use swords and should be considered as swordsmen, but in truth are they really ?

Zoro's comment this chapter regarding King not really being a swordsman is important in establishing a difference between people like Mihawk and Big Mom, she shouldn't be placed in the same group as Mihawk because with or without a sword she is still in the OP top 10, which I cant say for Mihawk.

You think so little of the second most popular character in the series, and one of Oda's favorite charaters dream.

You guys put Mihawk down way too much for him to be Zoro's life goal.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

King is just a poor mans Katakuri , he even copied his biker style

lol Ben portrayal is miles better than King

Ben>King for sure but hes the second strongest