Theory Shanks is the head of the underworld
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why are you trying to take credit for something i wrote in november paper? please i am dying to know why you're trying to take credit for something i wrote in november and also posting that you wrote this on Reddit and shit. @Paperchampion23 why are you lying
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paper cleared this up and lmao at the misunderstanding. he was crediting my discord post and i didnt know he did, and he didnt know me and dfd are the same person
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sorry paper that was embarassing i was mad heated
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why are you trying to take credit for something i wrote in november paper? please i am dying to know why you're trying to take credit for something i wrote in november and also posting that you wrote this on Reddit and shit. @Paperchampion23 why are you lying
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paper cleared this up and lmao at the misunderstanding. he was crediting my discord post and i didnt know he did, and he didnt know me and dfd are the same person
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sorry paper that was embarassing i was mad heated
So dumbXD
You're not crazy btw.:cheers:
What’s really crazy is that Big Mom has been wreacking havoc with her dozens of children and Kaido has been wreacking havoc with his army of smile fruit users, among other aspects of those two, to the point getting to the 4 billion range in bounty amounts. There’s definitely gotta be quite a bit more to Shanks than partying and wanting to keep peace, despite that basically being the majority of the extent when we’ve seen him, because presenting himself as a strong figure imposing enough to stop wars and casually talk to people in extremely elevated positions can really make one quite suspicious as to what kind of a guy he’s like and the business he does in general to be considered threatening enough to the government to warrant a bounty in the 4 billion range as well.
was just thinking about fate in one piece and the consistent theme of luffy rejecting fate or predictions, and wondering if this will carry into the end and luffy rejecting his role as joyboy, or whoever, because if he's been destined to be there the whole time its no fun.
i can see, for some reason, they get to laugh tale, and its a ton of amazing shit, its the whole history of the void century, its all kinds of secrets, its this and that, the whole crew is flipping out that they're discovering all these incredible things, and luffy has tears in his eyes and isnt smiling because its all what they expected to find and his secret dream remains unfulfilled. like ah, thank god you're here luffy, you must now be the king of the world and reign with the mermaid princess as your queen and rule with a just but peaceful hand, and luffy is just going uhhh no. this is the worst possible idea ive ever heard.
i think there will be, even beyond the final war, an even more final journey to somewhere meaningful so luffy can see it to the end on his own terms. like, i think the subset of fans who got that sinking feeling of "oh no, is luffy a figure of prophecy and not some guy who just believes in himself really hard?" are having the right idea, because that's how luffy reacts anytime something is said to be absolutely certain, or predicted, or set in stone, or whatever. he hates that kind of shit more than anything.
and now to lead back to this topic i think considering all this as true this kind of makes shanks the ultimate version of that villain for luffy. arlong the guy who controls nami through debt and fear. crocodile the casino boss who rigs the game and writes off losses. enel the god who monitors everything and demands submission. moria the man who steals your shadow and makes a mockery of your life. the jailers of impel down. the world government using the law and authority as an excuse to take robin and his brother away from him. doflamingo the puppetmaster who keeps an island in a cage. kaido controlling an entire country with his iron fist and making kids cry. etc etc. all the biggest villains are guys who go overboard with control, who take freedom away from others.
if the shanks/yakuza theory is correct, this makes shanks the ultimate guy rigging the game so its no fun.
hes the pirate who runs the underworld, the information networks and illegal business all across the globe, and industrializes it, and keeps the government strong while also uplifting the most corrupt and destructive pirates and holding down any upstarts trying to change the world like Eustass Kid, maintaining the status quo all because he's betting on luffy being this figure of prophecy. playing all the sides against each other like Shimizu Jirocho because he wants to see his gamble pay off.
thematically there would be an explanation for his villainy this way, and a reason for luffy to take him down. a sort of traditional grey take on it where shanks completely thinks he's doing the right thing and has good intentions, but it would be incredibly insulting and suffocating to a person like luffy to say "here i put these things into play to make it easier for you."
does luffy even know shanks ended the war?
shanks stepped in just to get him his hat back and ensure he escaped alive. would luffy even be satisfied by this? he can step in to do that but not save Ace or Whitebeard? Luffy gets mad any time anyone even suggests making his journey easier and heres a guy stepping in specifically to ONLY save him while his brother still dies. because he's gambling on Luffy, not them. Collateral damage. No big deal. This is enough by itself to make luffy want to kick his ass. if he's been behind all this other corruption too? if he's the guy who set up doflamingo and enabled him to become the top broker and organized the shipping of all the weapons out of kaido's factories and shit? man... its going to be a real confrontation i think.
i can see, for some reason, they get to laugh tale, and its a ton of amazing shit, its the whole history of the void century, its all kinds of secrets, its this and that, the whole crew is flipping out that they're discovering all these incredible things, and luffy has tears in his eyes and isnt smiling because its all what they expected to find and his secret dream remains unfulfilled. like ah, thank god you're here luffy, you must now be the king of the world and reign with the mermaid princess as your queen and rule with a just but peaceful hand, and luffy is just going uhhh no. this is the worst possible idea ive ever heard.
i think there will be, even beyond the final war, an even more final journey to somewhere meaningful so luffy can see it to the end on his own terms. like, i think the subset of fans who got that sinking feeling of "oh no, is luffy a figure of prophecy and not some guy who just believes in himself really hard?" are having the right idea, because that's how luffy reacts anytime something is said to be absolutely certain, or predicted, or set in stone, or whatever. he hates that kind of shit more than anything.
and now to lead back to this topic i think considering all this as true this kind of makes shanks the ultimate version of that villain for luffy. arlong the guy who controls nami through debt and fear. crocodile the casino boss who rigs the game and writes off losses. enel the god who monitors everything and demands submission. moria the man who steals your shadow and makes a mockery of your life. the jailers of impel down. the world government using the law and authority as an excuse to take robin and his brother away from him. doflamingo the puppetmaster who keeps an island in a cage. kaido controlling an entire country with his iron fist and making kids cry. etc etc. all the biggest villains are guys who go overboard with control, who take freedom away from others.
if the shanks/yakuza theory is correct, this makes shanks the ultimate guy rigging the game so its no fun.
hes the pirate who runs the underworld, the information networks and illegal business all across the globe, and industrializes it, and keeps the government strong while also uplifting the most corrupt and destructive pirates and holding down any upstarts trying to change the world like Eustass Kid, maintaining the status quo all because he's betting on luffy being this figure of prophecy. playing all the sides against each other like Shimizu Jirocho because he wants to see his gamble pay off.
thematically there would be an explanation for his villainy this way, and a reason for luffy to take him down. a sort of traditional grey take on it where shanks completely thinks he's doing the right thing and has good intentions, but it would be incredibly insulting and suffocating to a person like luffy to say "here i put these things into play to make it easier for you."
does luffy even know shanks ended the war?
shanks stepped in just to get him his hat back and ensure he escaped alive. would luffy even be satisfied by this? he can step in to do that but not save Ace or Whitebeard? Luffy gets mad any time anyone even suggests making his journey easier and heres a guy stepping in specifically to ONLY save him while his brother still dies. because he's gambling on Luffy, not them. Collateral damage. No big deal. This is enough by itself to make luffy want to kick his ass. if he's been behind all this other corruption too? if he's the guy who set up doflamingo and enabled him to become the top broker and organized the shipping of all the weapons out of kaido's factories and shit? man... its going to be a real confrontation i think.
Okay I really like what you write but Shanks protecting Luffy ? No.
If it was not for plot, Luffy would be dead A LOT of time, worst gamble.
Shanks and Dragon saving him a few times ? Not even almost enough.
Luffy could have die the moment he set foot on his boat and gambled his life in a Tonnel.
He almost die against Enel, Crocodile, Katakuri, each time he falled into water, Caesar.
The guy is an expert at nearly dying and would even Aizen be confident in Luffy surviving ? ( Probably yes thanks to Hyouguykou ).
So Shanks helping Luffy ? Okay. But Luffy need a solid Plot to survive. LMAO.
If it was not for plot, Luffy would be dead A LOT of time, worst gamble.
Shanks and Dragon saving him a few times ? Not even almost enough.
Luffy could have die the moment he set foot on his boat and gambled his life in a Tonnel.
He almost die against Enel, Crocodile, Katakuri, each time he falled into water, Caesar.
The guy is an expert at nearly dying and would even Aizen be confident in Luffy surviving ? ( Probably yes thanks to Hyouguykou ).
So Shanks helping Luffy ? Okay. But Luffy need a solid Plot to survive. LMAO.
New evidence regarding the Shimizu Jirocho connection has come to light.
This is the DVD cover art for Jirocho Sangokushi, a film about Shimizu Jirocho's life. You might notice a familiar art style. Yep, that's Eiichiro Oda.
Not only did he draw the DVD cover, he did it because it's one of his favorite films of all time. Oda loves Shimizu Jirocho as a character. And he likes to joke that shanks is the most like him. Of course Oda likes to see himself as the star of his favorite movie.
it turns out this is an entire box set of a film series not just one movie and Oda did the art for all of them. He must be a real huge fan.
More goroawase number wordplay. 893 is "yakuza". Chapter 893 is where katakuri cuts himself because he sees it as a duel of honor and Luffy, in response, quotes Shanks.
This is the DVD cover art for Jirocho Sangokushi, a film about Shimizu Jirocho's life. You might notice a familiar art style. Yep, that's Eiichiro Oda.
Not only did he draw the DVD cover, he did it because it's one of his favorite films of all time. Oda loves Shimizu Jirocho as a character. And he likes to joke that shanks is the most like him. Of course Oda likes to see himself as the star of his favorite movie.
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New evidence regarding the Shimizu Jirocho connection has come to light.
This is the DVD cover art for Jirocho Sangokushi, a film about Shimizu Jirocho's life. You might notice a familiar art style. Yep, that's Eiichiro Oda.
Not only did he draw the DVD cover, he did it because it's one of his favorite films of all time. Oda loves Shimizu Jirocho as a character. And he likes to joke that shanks is the most like him. Of course Oda likes to see himself as the star of his favorite movie.
This is the DVD cover art for Jirocho Sangokushi, a film about Shimizu Jirocho's life. You might notice a familiar art style. Yep, that's Eiichiro Oda.
Not only did he draw the DVD cover, he did it because it's one of his favorite films of all time. Oda loves Shimizu Jirocho as a character. And he likes to joke that shanks is the most like him. Of course Oda likes to see himself as the star of his favorite movie.
it turns out this is an entire box set of a film series not just one movie and Oda did the art for all of them. He must be a real huge fan.
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More goroawase number wordplay. 893 is "yakuza". Chapter 893 is where katakuri cuts himself because he sees it as a duel of honor and Luffy, in response, quotes Shanks.
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New evidence regarding the Shimizu Jirocho connection has come to light.
This is the DVD cover art for Jirocho Sangokushi, a film about Shimizu Jirocho's life. You might notice a familiar art style. Yep, that's Eiichiro Oda.
Not only did he draw the DVD cover, he did it because it's one of his favorite films of all time. Oda loves Shimizu Jirocho as a character. And he likes to joke that shanks is the most like him. Of course Oda likes to see himself as the star of his favorite movie.
it turns out this is an entire box set of a film series not just one movie and Oda did the art for all of them. He must be a real huge fan.
More goroawase number wordplay. 893 is "yakuza". Chapter 893 is where katakuri cuts himself because he sees it as a duel of honor and Luffy, in response, quotes Shanks.
This is the DVD cover art for Jirocho Sangokushi, a film about Shimizu Jirocho's life. You might notice a familiar art style. Yep, that's Eiichiro Oda.
Not only did he draw the DVD cover, he did it because it's one of his favorite films of all time. Oda loves Shimizu Jirocho as a character. And he likes to joke that shanks is the most like him. Of course Oda likes to see himself as the star of his favorite movie.
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it turns out this is an entire box set of a film series not just one movie and Oda did the art for all of them. He must be a real huge fan.
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More goroawase number wordplay. 893 is "yakuza". Chapter 893 is where katakuri cuts himself because he sees it as a duel of honor and Luffy, in response, quotes Shanks.
but his fave movies is also interesting