Least Impressive Supernova in Wano?


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And then how bout saying, "Zoro then goes off to fight King, and gets disarmed within the first 5 seconds of their encounter."

You guys act like Zoro 1 v 1'd Kaido and Big Mom, by himself for 10 hours straight.

Zoro is tough and can fight through excessive pain.... We get it.

Zoro's highest end attack possible, while awakening CoC in a last ditch desperation attack managed to scar Kaido. We get it.

At the end of the day, whose his arc opponent that he will actually have a 1 v 1 fight against? Someone not on Kaido's level.
Zoro didn't get the chance to fight kaido 1v1,he was busy protecting luffy all the time.
Zoro ha demonstrated feats that proves his ability to Stalemate kaido even longer than luffy and yamato.
It's true that zoro's strongest attack didn't severely damage kaido, but kaido's ultimate attack couldn't put zoro to sleep too.
 

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Hitetsu is 81 years, the information on the Vivre Card seemed to be wrong and the official OP Twitter Account corrected it.
Now, who the fuck is Hitetsu?
The weird pedo who claims to take care of Tama.
 
Zoro didn't get the chance to fight kaido 1v1,he was busy protecting luffy all the time.
Zoro ha demonstrated feats that proves his ability to Stalemate kaido even longer than luffy and yamato.
It's true that zoro's strongest attack didn't severely damage kaido, but kaido's ultimate attack couldn't put zoro to sleep too.
Zoro needed Asura just to last against Kaido for less than 5 seconds. He doesn't last even fraction as long as Luffy or Yamato without it.
 
Zoro needed Asura just to last against Kaido for less than 5 seconds. He doesn't last even fraction as long as Luffy or Yamato without it.
That's not true at all. If it was the case he wouldn't been able to block an attack stronger than any of the attacks Kaido can produce alone. The same power and skill he used to block hakai can be used to block Kaido's other attacks.

As we see from the spoiler, the first time Yamato used adv CoC was that the very end of the chapter. That means she's been fighting and clashing with Kaido without using that power. If she could do that then Zoro can because he has shown greater endurance and stronger attacks than her. I'm not talking about his 9 sword style attacks either.
 
Wano samurai PL:
Oden: Upper-Mid Top tier. He's the samurai version of Roger/Luffy. The man hyped by Great Pirates.
Ryuma: Mid top tier. The ancient Samurai version of Zoro.
Prime Hyogoro : Inbetweener. The Man whom Kaido didn't want him to team up with Oden or else it'll be very difficult to win.
Ushimaru: Inbetweener. Despite being powerful, Kaido didn't deem him as a higher force than Hyougoro
Tenguyama/other Samurai/Denjiro/Prime Yasu: High High tier
Ashura : upper-mid high tier
Kawamatsu: upper-low high tier
Kinnemon /Kanjuro : Top Vets/lower-high tier
 
Zoro needed Asura just to last against Kaido for less than 5 seconds. He doesn't last even fraction as long as Luffy or Yamato without it.
Zoro was going to collaps regardless of asura.
He shouldn't even be conscious after taking hakai, but he persevered through law's plan, and even scared kaido with everything remained in him to protect luffy.
Luffy lost consciousness immediately from ragnaraku, and needed a power up after zoro collapsed to survive for 10 minutes against kaido.

Zoro didn't learn advanced haki like luffy, only had 3 days to get used to enma to a manageable degree, yet he was more impressive than anyone on the rooftop before luffy descovered ACoC.
 
Zoro needed Asura just to last against Kaido for less than 5 seconds. He doesn't last even fraction as long as Luffy or Yamato without it.
lmao wtf this dude reading 2 pieces.
Oda had to bring 2xyonko hakai for put down Zoro. still one of fucking yonko endup with a fucking scar meanhwile Yamato cant even Touch Kaidos ASS around 30mins

Halfdead zoro overpowered kaido and land a clean hit meanhwile condom,Yamato cant even fucking touch kaido 1v1

He even said He using his last remaning strength because he aint got a shit after he saved 4 fodders on rooftop agaisnt 2xyonkos

healthy Zoro already made kaido look like a bitch and made them dodge that feat yamato wont even do at the end of series
 
Wano samurai PL:
Oden: Upper-Mid Top tier. He's the samurai version of Roger/Luffy. The man hyped by Great Pirates.
Ryuma: Mid top tier. The ancient Samurai version of Zoro.
Prime Hyogoro : Inbetweener. The Man whom Kaido didn't want him to team up with Oden or else it'll be very difficult to win.
Ushimaru: Inbetweener. Despite being powerful, Kaido didn't deem him as a higher force than Hyougoro
Tenguyama/other Samurai/Denjiro/Prime Yasu: High High tier
Ashura : upper-mid high tier
Kawamatsu: upper-low high tier
Kinnemon /Kanjuro : Top Vets/lower-high tier
What is this crap. This is off but I'm only going to talk about Ryuma, who was much stronger than Oden.

Ryuma is the entire reason the world came to fear samurais. He was the samurai who killed a dragon above the capital. Wano citizens place him levels
above Oden. He was called the sword God. Ryuma was at least the equivalent to a Yonko if not more impressive because he didn't have a powerful crew supporting him. He stopped everyone from taking Wano gold.
 
lmao wtf this dude reading 2 pieces.
Oda had to bring 2xyonko hakai for put down Zoro. still one of fucking yonko endup with a fucking scar meanhwile Yamato cant even Touch Kaidos ASS around 30mins

Halfdead zoro overpowered kaido and land a clean hit meanhwile condom,Yamato cant even fucking touch kaido 1v1

He even said He using his last remaning strength because he aint got a shit after he saved 4 fodders on rooftop agaisnt 2xyonkos

healthy Zoro already made kaido look like a bitch and made them dodge that feat yamato wont even do at the end of series
Fr.
Zoro had impressive feats vs kaido with just enma and basic armament.
God knows what he could've done had he learned advanced haki like luffy.
 

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Wano samurai PL:
Oden: Upper-Mid Top tier. He's the samurai version of Roger/Luffy. The man hyped by Great Pirates.
Ryuma: Mid top tier. The ancient Samurai version of Zoro.
Prime Hyogoro : Inbetweener. The Man whom Kaido didn't want him to team up with Oden or else it'll be very difficult to win.
Ushimaru: Inbetweener. Despite being powerful, Kaido didn't deem him as a higher force than Hyougoro
Tenguyama/other Samurai/Denjiro/Prime Yasu: High High tier
Ashura : upper-mid high tier
Kawamatsu: upper-low high tier
Kinnemon /Kanjuro : Top Vets/lower-high tier
Ryuma is definitely above Oden.
 
Hereโ€™s what I think will happen for the rest of the arc:

Number 6 shows up on the live floor (he was supposed to be around there for a while anyways, based on the cameo of an unrevealed Number we saw a while ago). Chopper beats him fairly easily using his current powers, and then the final and strongest Numbers, Numbers 1, 2, and 3 show up. Chopper is stronger than either one individually, but canโ€™t handle all 3 at once. Zoro and Sanji canโ€™t help because they have their hands full, and Marco is still recovering. Chopper uses the Ice Oni virus to temporarily buff himself. This will give Chopper the strength to win, and he injects himself with the cure to return to normal. This will be a new powerup for Chopper.

Raizo beats Fukurokuju.

Perospero pulls a dirty trick to beat Sulong Neko, and Carrot is the one who gets to finish off Pero, who is very weakened at this point.

Denjiro does something relating to Hiyori and/or Orochi

Sulong Inu has the upper hand on Hybrid Jack, but then Jack pulls out his Awakening form. It makes him either equal or slightly stronger than Sulong Inu. Either way, Jack wins eventually, either by overpowering him or Inu runs out of gas due to Sulong being very taxing, and Jack wins by outlasting him. Jack is extremely weakened afterwards and probably only at 20-25% HP. Usopp has been lying about beating two Tobi Roppo, and his lie will somewhat come true by him beating a Calamity (ranked above the Tobi Roppo, therefore โ€œtwo Tobi Roppo). This will give Usopp another inflated bounty since he will get the credit for beating a Calamity, even though Inu did most of the work. I envision the fight starting off by Usopp fighting from long range, trying to keep Jack away from the live floor. Usopp will try to gradually west down Jackโ€™s health little by little with his long range shots and traps he sets up. Of course Jack wonโ€™t take much damage, but he will still take some damage (maybe around 5% HP). Eventually Jack closes the distance between him and Usopp, and Usopp is forced to obtain a new power in order to finish off 15% HP Jack. During his โ€œfightโ€ with P1, Usopp commented on how he lacks the proper tools for CQC. This could be a way for Oda to confront this weakness of Usoppโ€™s and come up with a solution. After all, Usopp will need to learn how to handle fights competently at close range if he wants to surpass his YC2 level dad and become a โ€œbrave warriorโ€ by the end of (probably) Elbaf. Iโ€™m not sure what exactly Oda will do, but obviously it would be a pretty substantial power up. Maybe Usopp unlocks CoA, and the less distance his CoA shots have to travel, the stronger the impact (making him less weak at CQC)? Oda is also hardcore teasing Usoppโ€™s CoC in this chapter, so maybe Usopp manages to briefly tap into Adv CoC and imbue it into his most powerful shot, with that being enough to put down the, at this point, severely battered Jack.

Sanji beats Queen and Zoro beats King. Hopefully they unlock Haki upgrades during these fights so that their Haki isnโ€™t lagging too much behind Luffy, who has advanced versions of all 3 Haki types at this point.

Jinbe, Robin, Franky and Nami probably donโ€™t do too much when it comes to fighting for the rest of this war. Hopefully Brook somehow gets a good fight though because he has done basically nothing but beat a Number and a few Gifters.

Luffy, Yamato, Marco, and Momo vs Kaido
Kid, Law, Drake, Apoo, Killer, and Hawkins vs Big Mom

Idk about CP0 and the B
 
Zoro was going to collaps regardless of asura.
He shouldn't even be conscious after taking hakai, but he persevered through law's plan, and even scared kaido with everything remained in him to protect luffy.
Luffy lost consciousness immediately from ragnaraku, and needed a power up after zoro collapsed to survive for 10 minutes against kaido.

Zoro didn't learn advanced haki like luffy, only had 3 days to get used to enma to a manageable degree, yet he was more impressive than anyone on the rooftop before luffy descovered ACoC.
And that is supposed to mean what exactly? Luffy went blow for blow with Kaido.

Zoro, while having impressive moments against the guy, was not show to actually be capable of trading blows with him. That's just something you guys believe he can do, without any evidence suggesting it. The fact that Zoro easily got disarmed by King, who is amazed by Kaido's strength is all we need to understand how Zoro would fair if he tried to fight Kaido in a 1 v1.
 
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